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Arilou
Acolyte
Sweden
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 Posted - 21 Sep 2005 : 19:55:16
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Just wondering, how much contact *is* there between Faerûn & Zakhara? I know there is some trade and some adventurers that appear in the Land of Fate now and then, but I'm a bit more interested in how it stands from the Faerûnian side (the Zakharan attitudes are explained in the relevant 2nd. ed. material)
Which areas would have most contact with Zakhara? How much would an educated Faerûnian know of this southern continent? Would cultural clashes be likely and if so of what kind? (This of course would vary by region...) ?
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Eller kärleken tar slut.
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
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Posted - 21 Sep 2005 : 22:51:04
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I'm not terribly familiar with that part of the Realms... But I'd say that the greatest contact between Zakhara and the rest of the Realms would be in the Shining South.
There was a half-Zakharan character in the novels Finder's Bane and Tymora's Luck. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 22 Sep 2005 : 01:47:27
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I'd even go as far as saying that Calimshan, Chult, the Border Kingdoms, and most of the regions south of the Shining Sea have each, at their own time, had dealings with cities and places of importance in Zakhara.
There are a few mentions in the supplements for the Al-Qadim setting. The most accessible being those from the free downloads available at WotC:- Corsairs of the Great Sea and
Caravans.
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TomCosta
Forgotten Realms Designer
USA
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Posted - 22 Sep 2005 : 21:57:09
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| We also know/suspect that the Knights of the Undying Dragon, dedicated to the dead god Myrkul (see F&A and the I think the 3.5E Shining South), appear to have defended against a Zakharan invastion. Also the Bedine are the result of Zakharans that went through a portal. |
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Arilou
Acolyte
Sweden
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Posted - 22 Sep 2005 : 22:02:30
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We also know/suspect that the Knights of the Undying Dragon, dedicated to the dead god Myrkul (see F&A and the I think the 3.5E Shining South), appear to have defended against a Zakharan invastion.
*That* Sounds awfully interesting. |
"Det sägs att ovan molnen är himlen alltid blå.
Men det kan vara svårt att tro när man inte ser det.
Och det sägs att efter regnet kommer solen fram igen.
Men det hjälper sällan dem som har blivit våta.
För när vännerna försvinner.
Eller kärleken tar slut.
Ser man allt med lite andra ögon.
Man övar sig och långsamt blir man bättre på att se.
Skillnad mellan sanningar och lögner." |
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Kuje
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 22 Sep 2005 : 22:49:40
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| A few of the concubines of the ruler are also from Faerun. One is even from Maztica!. Haluraa has had one of thier air ships taken from them. Elfminster, who hates Elminster, set up shop there after he left Shadowdale because of the old windbag. There's a few others that arrived from Faerun. |
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Crennen FaerieBane
Master of Realmslore
USA
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Posted - 23 Sep 2005 : 00:35:31
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Where, pray tell, are you finding all of these neat tidbits? That is absolutely hilarious.
I think Faerun should just kick the City of Shade over to Zakhara, that way there is no fuss between the Shades and the rest of the Realms... oh yeah, I guess a small problem would be that the Shades want Faerun, not a substitute. :)
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Kuje
Great Reader
USA
7915 Posts |
Posted - 23 Sep 2005 : 01:27:20
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Originally posted by CrennenFaerieBane
Where, pray tell, are you finding all of these neat tidbits? That is absolutely hilarious.
I think Faerun should just kick the City of Shade over to Zakhara, that way there is no fuss between the Shades and the rest of the Realms... oh yeah, I guess a small problem would be that the Shades want Faerun, not a substitute. :)
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The references are scattered throughout Zakhara material. :) Of course most of those npc's are also in my file. I know, I know. I have to finish that thing soon! I'm getting there and there's only 13 or so sourcebooks left to do. :) |
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tauster
Senior Scribe
Germany
399 Posts |
Posted - 23 Sep 2005 : 08:43:15
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Originally posted by Kuje
A few of the concubines of the ruler are also from Faerun. One is even from Maztica!. Haluraa has had one of thier air ships taken from them. Elfminster, who hates Elminster, set up shop there after he left Shadowdale because of the old windbag. There's a few others that arrived from Faerun.
ELFminster?
that´s a name i´ve never heard before! can you tell me where he´s mentioned? |
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Kuje
Great Reader
USA
7915 Posts |
Posted - 23 Sep 2005 : 08:51:20
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Er, it's actually Elfinster but my bad. :)
Elfinster, 12th Ajami Mage, Male Human, Runs The School of the Mage of Shadowdale in Huzuz, the City of Delights. Husband of Amsha al-Lanim, City of Delights.
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For some of us, books are as important as almost anything else on earth. What a miracle it is that out of these small, flat, rigid squares of paper unfolds world after world, worlds that sing to you, comfort and quiet and excite you... Books are full of the things that you don't get in real life - wonderful, lyrical language, for instance, right off the bat. - Anne Lamott, Bird by Bird
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Arilou
Acolyte
Sweden
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Posted - 24 Sep 2005 : 18:40:56
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Elfinster, 12th Ajami Mage, Male Human, Runs The School of the Mage of Shadowdale in Huzuz, the City of Delights. Husband of Amsha al-Lanim, City of Delights.
...That sounds very odd indeed :p |
"Det sägs att ovan molnen är himlen alltid blå.
Men det kan vara svårt att tro när man inte ser det.
Och det sägs att efter regnet kommer solen fram igen.
Men det hjälper sällan dem som har blivit våta.
För när vännerna försvinner.
Eller kärleken tar slut.
Ser man allt med lite andra ögon.
Man övar sig och långsamt blir man bättre på att se.
Skillnad mellan sanningar och lögner." |
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ShadowJack
Senior Scribe
USA
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Posted - 27 Sep 2005 : 13:04:25
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Arilou,
I am currently going through Lands of Intrigue, (downloaded it off the WotC site), in it they make a reference to a Tethyrian noble returning from a trade mission to Zakhara. Admittedly, that was in Tethyr's past, but, if they traded with Zakhara in the earlier years, now that Tethyr is stable again under King Haedrak and Queen Zaranda, I figure that trade with Zakhara would resume. Remember, during the Middle Ages, trade with the East was so lucrative that if a captain brought one ship back, he could pay off his investors and still have more than enough to live comfortably. I believe the same would be true for Tethyr. Trade with Zakhara would be profitable enough to take the risks... Just my thoughts... |
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 27 Sep 2005 : 21:29:17
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Originally posted by Kuje
Er, it's actually Elfinster but my bad. :)
Elfinster, 12th Ajami Mage, Male Human, Runs The School of the Mage of Shadowdale in Huzuz, the City of Delights. Husband of Amsha al-Lanim, City of Delights.
Ha ha, what a dork.
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Kuje
Great Reader
USA
7915 Posts |
Posted - 27 Sep 2005 : 21:44:57
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Originally posted by Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
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Originally posted by Kuje
Er, it's actually Elfinster but my bad. :)
Elfinster, 12th Ajami Mage, Male Human, Runs The School of the Mage of Shadowdale in Huzuz, the City of Delights. Husband of Amsha al-Lanim, City of Delights.
Ha ha, what a dork.
Mod Edit: I hit the wrong button. Damn it.
I always like that NPC because he hates/dislikes the old windbag that lives in Shadowdale. |
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 27 Sep 2005 : 22:14:28
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But he's still a dork. ;)
I might like him if I knew more about him (that often happens, as stats aren't always enough to go by). |
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