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Skeptic
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Posted - 23 Aug 2005 :  18:05:16  Show Profile Send Skeptic a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
The current date in my current campaign is now Hammer 1st of 1373..

The PCs will met the dragon's rage effect in the coming spring, I want them to have the opportunity to save a little town of a raging chromatic dragon.

Does some of you have "stated" the effects of the rage precisely? (Btw I have read the rage and the rite)

A little question aside, how much difficult it is to travel in Waterdeep region (let's say to get to Secomber or Daggerford) in this time of the year (Nightal, Hammer, Alturiak)

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Posted - 25 Aug 2005 :  07:47:49  Show Profile  Visit KnightErrantJR's Homepage Send KnightErrantJR a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I usually make it difficult to travel in winter, altering clear terrain into difficult terrain, and I also force any PCs on horseback in the winter to make DC 10 balance checks for their horses, or else the poor things fall and lame themselves, taking 2d6 points of damage.

Of course, this was for winter in the Dales, and Waterdeep is a bit colder than that. Besides the snow you may want to make sure that they are adequitely protected from the cold weather as they travel as well.
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warlockco
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Posted - 25 Aug 2005 :  08:37:16  Show Profile  Visit warlockco's Homepage Send warlockco a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Skeptic
A little question aside, how much difficult it is to travel in Waterdeep region (let's say to get to Secomber or Daggerford) in this time of the year (Nightal, Hammer, Alturiak)



Think of Canadian winters (especially Northern Canada) with being able to travel on Horseback or Foot only.

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Kajehase
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Posted - 25 Aug 2005 :  13:34:03  Show Profile Send Kajehase a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by warlockco

quote:
Originally posted by Skeptic
A little question aside, how much difficult it is to travel in Waterdeep region (let's say to get to Secomber or Daggerford) in this time of the year (Nightal, Hammer, Alturiak)



Think of Canadian winters (especially Northern Canada) with being able to travel on Horseback or Foot only.



Unless the travellers know how to ski cross-country, or use a sleigh, I presume?

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warlockco
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Posted - 25 Aug 2005 :  16:33:23  Show Profile  Visit warlockco's Homepage Send warlockco a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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quote:
Originally posted by warlockco
Think of Canadian winters (especially Northern Canada) with being able to travel on Horseback or Foot only.



Unless the travellers know how to ski cross-country, or use a sleigh, I presume?



True, but haven't seen any indication of those being in use in a fantasy setting yet, though I think Frostburn did introduce those elements.

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Kuje
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Posted - 25 Aug 2005 :  17:21:22  Show Profile Send Kuje a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by warlockco

quote:
Originally posted by Kajehase

quote:
Originally posted by warlockco
Think of Canadian winters (especially Northern Canada) with being able to travel on Horseback or Foot only.



Unless the travellers know how to ski cross-country, or use a sleigh, I presume?



True, but haven't seen any indication of those being in use in a fantasy setting yet, though I think Frostburn did introduce those elements.



Rasheman has skis and snowshoes. :)

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The Sage
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Sleds and sleighs feature in the Great Glacier region, and are mentioned in FR14.

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Mournblade
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Posted - 26 Aug 2005 :  02:35:01  Show Profile Send Mournblade a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Kajehase

Unless the travellers know how to ski cross-country, or use a sleigh, I presume?



WOW Can you tell this guy is from Sweden or what?

Go Skadi!!!


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Mournblade
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Posted - 26 Aug 2005 :  02:38:10  Show Profile Send Mournblade a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by warlockco

True, but haven't seen any indication of those being in use in a fantasy setting yet, though I think Frostburn did introduce those elements.



Actually there is historical documentation of Vikings using Skis in the Dark Ages, as I am sure Kajehase could tell us above.

PLUS I think it was Skadi who was the goddess of snow travel and hence skiing.

Skiing is mentioned in the norse myths, but I never read any of the myths in the native language so the skis there might just be part of the translation.


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Skeptic
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Posted - 26 Aug 2005 :  04:10:17  Show Profile Send Skeptic a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Thanks for answers on winter travel..

Nothing on Rage's stats ? Maybe it was discussed in a Richard Lee thread?

Knowing that travel will be hard, my players decided to go on another sub-quest..

One of them was asked by the Plague Rats (were-rats Talona followers) to find a "dry" way between Skullport and the city. In recent past, they have heard of the tunnels used by Durnan in a Skullport short story (forgot name & author).

These tunnels start from Bonewatch Pass in SK and go all the way to sewers (good) or Yawning Portal cellar (bad). The Skullport accessory says that kobolds, stirges(?), carrion crawlers and large-huge spiders live there.

I'm looking for suggestions/ideas to make this a one-night challenge for a 10th level [evil] party.

Edited by - Skeptic on 26 Aug 2005 04:17:11
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KnightErrantJR
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Posted - 26 Aug 2005 :  04:12:30  Show Profile  Visit KnightErrantJR's Homepage Send KnightErrantJR a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I would, on the fly, consider that a dragon in the rage would get similar benefits and penalties as that of a barbarian raging. I guess I should think on this as my players advance further into the year . . . they are still dodging Shadovar and Phaerimm minions.
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Kuje
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Posted - 26 Aug 2005 :  04:16:58  Show Profile Send Kuje a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by KnightErrantJR

I would, on the fly, consider that a dragon in the rage would get similar benefits and penalties as that of a barbarian raging. I guess I should think on this as my players advance further into the year . . . they are still dodging Shadovar and Phaerimm minions.



If I recall right, this was what Richard said it was close to as well..... but he never fully detailed what it entailed. :)

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Kajehase
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Posted - 26 Aug 2005 :  06:09:38  Show Profile Send Kajehase a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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quote:
Originally posted by warlockco

True, but haven't seen any indication of those being in use in a fantasy setting yet, though I think Frostburn did introduce those elements.



Actually there is historical documentation of Vikings using Skis in the Dark Ages, as I am sure Kajehase could tell us above.

PLUS I think it was Skadi who was the goddess of snow travel and hence skiing.

Skiing is mentioned in the norse myths, but I never read any of the myths in the native language so the skis there might just be part of the translation.





Yup, the vikings used skis (and skates too for that matter) - which they'd probably picked up from the Same people who populate the northern parts of the Scandianavian and Kola peninsulas. I won't swear that what I'm about to say is true, but I seem to recall that the earliest dated ski that have been found is at least 4'000 years old (the book I read this in is packed in my parents' attic I'm afraid, so not easy to check).

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Misericordia
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Posted - 26 Aug 2005 :  17:49:53  Show Profile  Visit Misericordia's Homepage Send Misericordia a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Most ancient recordings of skiing is in some graffiti of stone age, where are represented hunters with tools on their feet used to pass snow obstacles (not exactly ski, but very similar).
First ski discoverd is dated about 2500 b.C., in Sweden.
And in the "Edda", an Islandian epic poem about 1000 a.D., is descript skiing as a competition and amusement!

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