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Crennen FaerieBane
Master of Realmslore
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 Posted - 19 Aug 2005 : 14:45:07
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A good number of my players like to consume alcohol when we game (We are all over 21). Now, they usually only have like 2 beers for like 4-5 hours of gaming, so it's no big thing. However, every once and a while, one of my players gets loopy and starts doing things that are counteractive and downright dumb... He begins to sound like that guy in the "Dead Ale Wives" skit asking if there are any girls at the tavern, and so on.
The group really likes the guy, so I don't want to rock the boat too much, but I hate when my games go awry....
Besides barring him from the table, which I wish I could do, what do guys recommend?
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Kentinal
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Posted - 19 Aug 2005 : 16:57:50
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This is a hard one.
You of course could go with no drinking, though that might upset all the players.
You could try to convince the one player that drink more adversely effects his play then others. This can be a hard sell though. I know people that 2 are their limit and others that can do fairly well with consuming 6 times as much.
In game ways to discourage behavior could be giving the PC a villian that shows up when player begins to get distracted. A pickpocket to perhaps something like a bad dream. In tavern scenes you might have NPC take objection to the face of the PC and have the PC thrown out.
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Gray Richardson
Master of Realmslore
USA
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Posted - 19 Aug 2005 : 18:49:39
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Hide some of the beer, or make sure that there is only just enough for everyone to have one or two, and then you are out of beer for the rest of the evening. Make lots of coffee, buy gourmet coffee and praise its taste. Keep the coffee coming, especially when you run out of beer.
Have lots of soft drinks in the fridge for those who don't like coffee. Jolt cola has a lot of caffeine in it. Or you could go with energy drinks like Redbull or Sobe.
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Melfius
Senior Scribe
USA
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Posted - 19 Aug 2005 : 21:45:47
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| Had the same issue once, and all it took was saying that we wouldn't allow folks getting snookered anymore. Everyone was adults, so there was no problem. |
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ode904
Learned Scribe
Finland
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Posted - 19 Aug 2005 : 21:56:53
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Gray's idea is good. Or just ask them to drink not at all or not so much.
But punishment...Hmm.. Here:
If he gets snookered too much:
Next time you play he doesn't drink AT ALL. And if he says 'no', you tell him to drink at home. |
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Shadovar
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Posted - 20 Aug 2005 : 01:52:39
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| Well, if he is a good drinker, able to drink many rounds of beer without getting drunk, I think there should not be a problem. But persistent drinking with bad attitudes displayed, then I highly recommend barring this particular player away from the group until he agrees to the DM conditions before allowed to play again. |
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Kentinal
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Posted - 20 Aug 2005 : 02:19:49
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Banning is considered a bad option as other players aparently are not complaining from the occassional laspe, based on OP. A ban might break the game. From here I can not tell. The question was more focused on how to deal with a player that strays from time to time when most (if not all drink) a few.
Limit amounts might work, but if the culture of the game players do not want this or even worst enjoy the interludes, it might not work. |
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"Caring for afterwards ...? Ker repeated this without understanding.
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Fletcher
Learned Scribe
USA
299 Posts |
Posted - 20 Aug 2005 : 06:56:00
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I went through a similar experience, except with a player who came in completely high on drugs.
We asked him to stop smoking pot before the games. Though he did complain bitterly, he did stop and gaming was agin good. |
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Dargoth
Great Reader
Australia
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Posted - 20 Aug 2005 : 07:33:08
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Originally posted by Fletcher
I went through a similar experience, except with a player who came in completely high on drugs.
We asked him to stop smoking pot before the games. Though he did complain bitterly, he did stop and gaming was agin good.
Lol!
Now that could have had some interesting side effects
DM: Youve run into a pack of Kobolds, they leap at the party!
Stoned Player: AGHH THERE ALL OVER ME GET THEM OFF GET THEM OFF!!! *Starts rolling around on the lounge room floor*
Achole is banned at my gaming time. A previous DM used to allow booze at the table and i found that it makes a number of players sleepy. |
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Mournblade
Master of Realmslore
USA
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Posted - 20 Aug 2005 : 10:42:04
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quote:
Originally posted by Dargoth
quote:
Originally posted by Fletcher
I went through a similar experience, except with a player who came in completely high on drugs.
We asked him to stop smoking pot before the games. Though he did complain bitterly, he did stop and gaming was agin good.
Lol!
Now that could have had some interesting side effects
DM: Youve run into a pack of Kobolds, they leap at the party!
Stoned Player: AGHH THERE ALL OVER ME GET THEM OFF GET THEM OFF!!! *Starts rolling around on the lounge room floor*
Achole is banned at my gaming time. A previous DM used to allow booze at the table and i found that it makes a number of players sleepy.
Well it all depends on WHAT they are drinking for me.
If they bring budweiser, miller, or some other American spring water disguised as terrible tasting beer, then they must immediately leave. However if they bring Guinness or even something as simple as Harp, or OOOOH!!! BODDINGTONS!! they can drink to their hearts content.
BUt if all the players are happy and you are not, I would say you pull the DM card. You drink to much to play so go home. If this proves to be an issue, the player is PROBABLY one you don't want to play with.
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Dargoth
Great Reader
Australia
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Posted - 20 Aug 2005 : 12:32:22
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Aghhhh you'd let them drink Guinness!?!?!
I firmly believe that Gary Gygax got his inspiration for UNHOLY water from a taste of that Vile Irish brew Guinness |
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Melfius
Senior Scribe
USA
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Posted - 20 Aug 2005 : 16:36:04
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Dargoth! How dare you speak so about that most holy of Irish brews!  Heretic! |
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Crennen FaerieBane
Master of Realmslore
USA
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Posted - 20 Aug 2005 : 17:02:14
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Well... to be honest, most of the time the guy is chill - We usually all have like 1 or 2 Newcastles or Karl Strauss Red Trolly (an excellent brew).
In fact, we have a round robin system and the guy only gets snookered when he brings his choice of beer: some 10% AC Belgian ale called Chimay. Good stuff, just a little strong for a gaming night!
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
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Posted - 20 Aug 2005 : 17:12:09
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I'm of Irish descent (there's even a irish whiskey that bears my last name), but Guinness is not something I care for. 
CFB: if that's the case, then simply place a cap on how much can be brought and/or consumed by one player.
And have you tried talking to him, 1 on 1, about it? |
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Misericordia
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Italy
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Posted - 20 Aug 2005 : 17:34:54
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Originally posted by CrennenFaerieBane
In fact, we have a round robin system and the guy only gets snookered when he brings his choice of beer: some 10% AC Belgian ale called Chimay. Good stuff, just a little strong for a gaming night!
C-Fb
Really good stuff indeed Chimay, and really too strong for playing! |
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Crennen FaerieBane
Master of Realmslore
USA
1378 Posts |
Posted - 20 Aug 2005 : 20:14:15
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
I'm of Irish descent (there's even a irish whiskey that bears my last name), but Guinness is not something I care for.
CFB: if that's the case, then simply place a cap on how much can be brought and/or consumed by one player.
And have you tried talking to him, 1 on 1, about it?
Yeah, but the quandry really is the fact that he says he gets to choose the beer when its his turn and the fact that none of the other players seem to mind - It's me the DM who gets the short end of the stick.
I've asked him to get a little less potent beer, but still make sure it tasted good... so what did he do? He bought "Eye of the Hawk" from Mendicino Brewing Co, which measured in at 8%!
I think the hardest part is that the group thinks its all funny, but the DM (me) is getting fed up. It's not to the point where I don't want to run for them, but it's getting close. 
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Dargoth
Great Reader
Australia
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Posted - 21 Aug 2005 : 12:05:22
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Originally posted by Melfius
Dargoth! How dare you speak so about that most holy of Irish brews! Heretic!
Im convinced that Guinness is manufactured from distilled red army truck tyres
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Xysma
Master of Realmslore
USA
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Posted - 02 Sep 2005 : 15:43:03
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All this talk of beer.... I'd kick my mom for a Victoria's Bitter right now.
I would talk to the guy one-on-one and just tell him that he's disrupting the game, and that he needs to knock it off. It sounds silly, but I was having problems with some of my players seemingly trying to out-stupid one another for awhile, I started handing out demerits (which I think was actually a joke from KODT.) Anytime someone did something stupid (and I mean stupid like humping the statue you come across in an eerie clearing in the forest, after a ghostly voice tells you to leave), used out of game knowledge, "sassed the dm," wasn't paying attention when their turn came around, etc, I would point at them and say "That's a demerit!" It was funny and silly, but it made them conscious of what they were doing to disrupt the game. |
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