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Mournblade
Master of Realmslore
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 Posted - 16 Aug 2005 : 21:33:42
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Great writers have Negative Capability which is the ability to take yourself out of a character and write them as they need too. A bad villain is one that is not written as evil as he should be because of an authors personal morals. (Not that they have to be depraved, just that they have to be well consistent I guess)
Negative Capability goes a long way in Role Playing.
In the Live action game I do I would LOVE to play a DARK PALADIN. But I don't, because I do not think I could ever get myself to kill player characters and be appropriately evil (I can as a DM, there is just more personal and social investment as a player character) Plus the consequences of character death are significantly more in the lIve action. I have actually seen friendships broken up because one character killed another. (both in Tabletop and Live action).
This is extreme case I know, but I know far too many people that have difficulty drawing the line.
I generally play good characters, but when I DM I can make the appropriate villains, play any kind of character, and any kind of race. When I play however I only really enjoy playing Humans, (High Human types (Melnibonean, Tarakion, Denedais, Etc.), Elves (all types), Half Elves, and Any human/outsider cross breed. Funny enough I am OK playing the beast man type of character as long as they are of the high wisdom type. Generally unintelligent races, or the stunties I can never really enjoy. I never really get into Half-Orcs, or Dwarves, Halflings, Gnomes. I can never really invest the proper amount of emotion in these races to really enjoy them.
As a DM however, I do a fine job of roleplaying these characters. But in that case, the roleplay is to advance the story, or provide a contact that is realistic. I have no more emotion in vested in them than I do in ensuring the dungeon makes sense (Which is still quite alot but not what you would put into a PC). It is easier for me to play a dwarf, Half orc, or other stunty as a NPC than a PC. The races definitely have their draw, I just could not imagine playing one as a primary character.
For me an NPC villain is not an investment of my personality so much. I can roleplay any NPC I have to, be it table top or live action. For a PC though, there is a range I am willing to play because it is tough for me to get involved in a character if I do not really like them.
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Kentinal
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Posted - 16 Aug 2005 : 22:30:37
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While I can not speak to live action, which indeed might be harder because you are playing with friends (at least I hope so) and few players like there PCs killed by anyone, even if the role play justifies the death, there certainly are other interactive role play where I certainly can play a PC aligned evil.
These plays often have in effect a safe word if the roleplay is not aceptible to the other player. Some of other interactives that go with real time I do not have the computer resourses or desire to get involved with, where as I understand it there is no escape (safe word) posible if tricked, trapped or surrounded. Some months ago I can accrose a web site of one group that basically could be considered a gang. If you are not a member we can kill you, if you are a member and call for aid we will come as quicfk as posible to save you killing anyone in ur way. While it does make sense to form societies, such compacts become no longer roleplay instaed become contests of power.
Most people have things like desire of revenge, power, wealth, success and so on. All of these can be used to feed a character of Evil PCs Also most certainly have known at least one person that they believe harm should come to as a matter of justice (that justice system does not provide for, liars, gosips, bad drivers, whatever) that can be used to fill out a PC bent on getting personal satisfaction that can power Roleplaying an Evil aligned PCs. |
"Small beings can have small wisdom," the dragon said. "And small wise beings are better than small fools. Listen: Wisdom is caring for afterwards."
"Caring for afterwards ...? Ker repeated this without understanding.
"After action, afterwards," the dragon said. "Choose the afterwards first, then the action. Fools choose action first."
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Sir Luther Cromwell
Learned Scribe
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Posted - 16 Aug 2005 : 23:36:15
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I have actually seen friendships broken up because one character killed another. (both in Tabletop and Live action)
The first rule I tell my PCs is that their personal lives leave at the door: no exceptions. I have no problem with suspending players, or if necessary, completely expelling them. If they take it personally they are the expelled, then they shouldn't be playing in the first place.
You see, I'm a big fan of the theory that actors make the best role players. Being able to create a character within oneself that is independent of your psyche really helps game play. Writers also make great players.
Now on the note of players that kill each other. Well, if a player kills another player, there better be a damn good reason for it. If players are constantly attempted to betray each other to the point that nothing gets accomplished, reel them in!
If a character is evil, this doesn't necessarily mean that he kills everyone around him. I find it's best to only allow players to be evil characters if you KNOW that they will play them extremely well. It's easy to be a pure hearted paladin that strides from town to town doing good deeds. It's a lot harder to play the clever necromancer who uses that same paladin to do his whims for him: putting up the veil that the paladin in going on 'a holy quest'.
Or the Dark Paladin who used to be pure of heart (player started out as a paladin), but in the end confused virtue with sin, saw all life in absolutes, and sought to reach good ends by unjust means (sort of like Anakin). Evil characters are evil for a reason.
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Sir Luther Cromwell
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Posted - 16 Aug 2005 : 23:41:57
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And silly me, I completely by-passed your main question, Mournblade (pardon my blabbing).
Basically, anything that isn't female. The zealous paladin, the scardi-cat, trickster gnomish illusionist, the boozing, womanizing rogue, the overly moralled, discaplined cleric, the pagmatic, ruff and gruff ranger, the haughty high elf archmage, and finally: the sadistic, decieving Necromancer.
I once had to play a CN rogue and a LG paladin at the same time! I was a party all in its own, and the other players (quitely evily) decided they were going to suddenly isolate the rogue and paladin. I'm sure they had plenty a good laugh watching me argue plentifully with myself. |
"At what temperature does a Goblin boil?"
"Any Rakshasa should eat a healthy diet that is high in wood elf, and low in shield Dwarf. One must always watch those cholesterol levels."
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Mournblade
Master of Realmslore
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1287 Posts |
Posted - 17 Aug 2005 : 00:10:04
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I don't like to have a PC that is female either. Cross gender roleplaying is not a thing for me, and I know very few that do it well. THough I will say that generally females are better at cross gender roleplay than males. Just from what I observed.
I once played a female character. One goofball in the party playing a male character, kept trying to start a romance going. I was completely unreceptive, and if I play a female character I am completely incapable of making her have any romantic interests.
You are absolutely correct that actors make the best roleplayers. I am NOT an actor. I am by far, the writer. If i make up a module in the Live action, I set up the characters personalities and then tell the player what I need. I have seen players able to make themselves cry, angry, etc, especially in the live action rp. Even when my character is sad, it is very rare to get me to cry. I can't cry unless I am ACTUALLY sad. I pretty much DM exclusively. THe only time I am the player seems to be in live action. |
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warlockco
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 17 Aug 2005 : 00:21:15
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Originally posted by Mournblade
I don't like to have a PC that is female either. Cross gender roleplaying is not a thing for me, and I know very few that do it well. THough I will say that generally females are better at cross gender roleplay than males. Just from what I observed.
I once played a female character. One goofball in the party playing a male character, kept trying to start a romance going. I was completely unreceptive, and if I play a female character I am completely incapable of making her have any romantic interests.
You are absolutely correct that actors make the best roleplayers. I am NOT an actor. I am by far, the writer. If i make up a module in the Live action, I set up the characters personalities and then tell the player what I need. I have seen players able to make themselves cry, angry, etc, especially in the live action rp. Even when my character is sad, it is very rare to get me to cry. I can't cry unless I am ACTUALLY sad. I pretty much DM exclusively. THe only time I am the player seems to be in live action.
Had a guy in one of my groups before (miss that gruop, we actually had half the group being ladies) that played a female character so convincingly that he had the ladies scared. He did the girl shopping for clothes right on target. But then again he was a strange bird, compared to the rest of us.
My female characters tend to be stand-offish, the no non-sense types. Which really throws the others off when I start being nice to someone.   |
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Kentinal
Great Reader
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Posted - 17 Aug 2005 : 00:22:50
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| Hmm, there are characters I most likely would not play, just not sure where I would draw that line yet. I have played genders, have played Drawf, elf, human, gnome, orc, various animals, inanimate items (which can be interesting experience and sometimes needs supporting NPCs but not always). |
"Small beings can have small wisdom," the dragon said. "And small wise beings are better than small fools. Listen: Wisdom is caring for afterwards."
"Caring for afterwards ...? Ker repeated this without understanding.
"After action, afterwards," the dragon said. "Choose the afterwards first, then the action. Fools choose action first."
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Sir Luther Cromwell
Learned Scribe
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Posted - 17 Aug 2005 : 00:41:02
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we actually had half the group being ladies
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I will say that generally females are better at cross gender roleplay than males.
Personally, I find the whole girl playing DnD thing rather attractive. I know it's a bit weird, but the fact that this girl has put aside the stereotype and the unfair reputation that Dnd has, says something about the girl. It's one thing to fall for a woman who can be romantic. It's another to fall for a woman who can be both romantic, and fun (or can relate to a lot of the ways you have fun, as opposed to turning her nose up at Dnd). I'm sure Sage would vouch for what I'm talking about: the special 'something' there is that this girl actually plays Dnd. It shows great character, if you ask me.
Any way, I have the gift of being both an actor and writer. Unfortunately, my biggest problem is a matter of up-staging other players, particularily new ones. |
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Kentinal
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Posted - 17 Aug 2005 : 01:04:04
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Originally posted by Mournblade
THough I will say that generally females are better at cross gender roleplay than males.
Of course males are easier to play they only have one thing on their mind *wink8
Or rather it is rather easy to Roleplay a male archtype that have interest in winning in a very direct way. Kill the dragon, get the woman, watch sports and so on. It might not be fair but in general it appears to me that males are far less complicated in personalities, goals and desires then most females. There of course are exceptions on both sides of the gender equation. |
"Small beings can have small wisdom," the dragon said. "And small wise beings are better than small fools. Listen: Wisdom is caring for afterwards."
"Caring for afterwards ...? Ker repeated this without understanding.
"After action, afterwards," the dragon said. "Choose the afterwards first, then the action. Fools choose action first."
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Mournblade
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 17 Aug 2005 : 01:19:15
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Originally posted by Kentinal
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Originally posted by Mournblade
THough I will say that generally females are better at cross gender roleplay than males.
Of course males are easier to play they only have one thing on their mind *wink8
Or rather it is rather easy to Roleplay a male archtype that have interest in winning in a very direct way. Kill the dragon, get the woman, watch sports and so on. It might not be fair but in general it appears to me that males are far less complicated in personalities, goals and desires then most females. There of course are exceptions on both sides of the gender equation.
Yeah and if there is an entire party of females mapping the dungeon you are BOUND To get lost!!! Then they will realize after being devoured by the Otyugh that it is generally a bad idea to ask creatures for directions. That is why males don't ask for directions.. they make sure to get the map right so they will not get devoured.
Actually I don't think females are any more or less complex, I just think that most people tend to play the opposite gender as stereotypes. Man or Woman. I have seen it alot.
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Reefy
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Posted - 17 Aug 2005 : 01:29:13
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Originally posted by Mournblade
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Originally posted by Kentinal
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Originally posted by Mournblade
THough I will say that generally females are better at cross gender roleplay than males.
Of course males are easier to play they only have one thing on their mind *wink8
Or rather it is rather easy to Roleplay a male archtype that have interest in winning in a very direct way. Kill the dragon, get the woman, watch sports and so on. It might not be fair but in general it appears to me that males are far less complicated in personalities, goals and desires then most females. There of course are exceptions on both sides of the gender equation.
Yeah and if there is an entire party of females mapping the dungeon you are BOUND To get lost!!! Then they will realize after being devoured by the Otyugh that it is generally a bad idea to ask creatures for directions. That is why males don't ask for directions.. they make sure to get the map right so they will not get devoured.
Actually I don't think females are any more or less complex, I just think that most people tend to play the opposite gender as stereotypes. Man or Woman. I have seen it alot.
Indeed, because a stereotype gives something a bit more concrete to base the character on. And all stereotypes are grounded in reality somewhere along the lines. It's not always easy to do but if I can attempt to roleplay an elf or an eighty year old man, there's no reason why I can't try a roleplay a female. I've had the argument with people before that it doesn't ever work but I just don't buy it. |
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Crennen FaerieBane
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 17 Aug 2005 : 02:51:37
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Characters I like to play range the complete gambit. I have no problem playing female characters.. if I can find a good reason to. I don't prefer just to play a female to screw with the other gamers in my group. I have played Chaotic Evil Drow to Lawful Good paladins and I think I do it fairly well (no one has ever asked me to leave the table :) ).
I think I can do so because of my long history of gaming, one, and my acting classes that I took for like 8 years. Both of these allowed me to remove myself from reality, study my character, and put forth my best interpretation of them.
I can't stand the gamer who plays the female as what a guy "thinks they should be like.". That annoys the crap out of me. :)
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Melfius
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Posted - 17 Aug 2005 : 02:56:13
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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Posted - 17 Aug 2005 : 03:28:13
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I've never played an evil character, nor a female. It's not that I have an aversion to either; I've just never had a concept I wanted to try out that was evil and/or female.
I do have an aversion, though, to playing gnomes and halflings. I just don't get them, for some reason. |
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Kentinal
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Posted - 17 Aug 2005 : 03:52:33
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
I do have an aversion, though, to playing gnomes and halflings. I just don't get them, for some reason.
Halflings I can see causing problems, though I suspect I could play them. The high energy thieves with no fear (the race name escapes me rght now) I find harder to play. The DL name? Those short persons are strange indeed. Also connection speed makes it hard for me to play hyper actice. Table top also offers the problem of fast speech and fast action. |
"Small beings can have small wisdom," the dragon said. "And small wise beings are better than small fools. Listen: Wisdom is caring for afterwards."
"Caring for afterwards ...? Ker repeated this without understanding.
"After action, afterwards," the dragon said. "Choose the afterwards first, then the action. Fools choose action first."
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Mournblade
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 17 Aug 2005 : 05:16:44
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I generally don't like playing stunties at all.
Also let me clarify, I am talking about what characters you can commit to in the long term, not just play for a night. I can play any character for a night, I am talking about keeping the character for months or years.
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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Posted - 17 Aug 2005 : 05:45:01
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I do have an aversion, though, to playing gnomes and halflings. I just don't get them, for some reason.
Halflings I can see causing problems, though I suspect I could play them. The high energy thieves with no fear (the race name escapes me rght now) I find harder to play. The DL name? Those short persons are strange indeed. Also connection speed makes it hard for me to play hyper actice. Table top also offers the problem of fast speech and fast action.
You speak of the kender. I know I could never play one of those guys... Speaking of kender, there is one in the Realms... |
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Shadovar
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Posted - 17 Aug 2005 : 05:54:17
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
You speak of the kender. I know I could never play one of those guys... Speaking of kender, there is one in the Realms...
I assume that kender in the realms is Emilo Haversack, am I right?
For what I prefer for my PC is a shade, shades possesses unique abilities that i found much to my liking. Alignment generally varies from NE to CE or CN, but mostly CN or NE. |
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Lady Kazandra
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Posted - 17 Aug 2005 : 06:57:35
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I assume that kender in the realms is Emilo Haversack, am I right?
Yes, you are.
Straight from the novel Tymora's Luck.
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khorne
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 17 Aug 2005 : 09:49:49
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Originally posted by Lady Kazandra
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Originally posted by Shadovar
I assume that kender in the realms is Emilo Haversack, am I right?
Yes, you are.
Straight from the novel Tymora's Luck.
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warlockco
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 17 Aug 2005 : 10:19:14
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Originally posted by khorne
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Originally posted by Lady Kazandra
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Originally posted by Shadovar
I assume that kender in the realms is Emilo Haversack, am I right?
Yes, you are.
Straight from the novel Tymora's Luck.
A kender in the realms? Oh dear...............
Yeah, there goes the neighborhood... |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
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Posted - 17 Aug 2005 : 14:50:08
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Originally posted by Shadovar
I assume that kender in the realms is Emilo Haversack, am I right?
Emilo certainly does get around. I even recall a small mention of him in a 2e Ravenloft tome.
As for the subject of this scroll...
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I've never played an evil character, nor a female. It's not that I have an aversion to either; I've just never had a concept I wanted to try out that was evil and/or female.
The evil character portion of Wooly's post is pretty much the same for me as well, although I've roleplayed two female PCs -- Granny Weathermax and Lady Kazandra .
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Kajehase
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Posted - 17 Aug 2005 : 15:30:29
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Granny Weathermax... |
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Faramicos
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Denmark
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Posted - 17 Aug 2005 : 15:46:39
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| Sounds like a true RPG challenge to play a Grandmother... How was it? |
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Erik Scott de Bie
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Posted - 17 Aug 2005 : 16:41:27
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Originally posted by Mournblade
Great writers have Negative Capability which is the ability to take yourself out of a character and write them as they need too. A bad villain is one that is not written as evil as he should be because of an authors personal morals. (Not that they have to be depraved, just that they have to be well consistent I guess)
Negative Capability goes a long way in Role Playing.
Excellent topic, Mourn! You're absolutely right.
It's so tempting and easy to write (and/or roleplay characters based on one's own personal morals), but it doesn't make for great characters, unfortunately, unless that's how the character is supposed to be. Even then, the noble, NG half-elf mage comes off as a mouthpiece, and no one wants that, least of all the author!
When it came to gaming, one of my longterm goals was to play successfully a very devout, righteous, unflinching paladin type, mostly because it's so opposite how I really am (though I did go through the righteous fury phase in my intemperate youth). My preferred style? Inquisitor -- that is, rogue / paladin. Hasn't manifested much, but that would be what I'd want to do.
I find I play a great many rogues, which is odd since were I put in the Realms, I'd definitely be a wizard (and not even a sorcerer: definitely a wizard).
One of my favorite characters was a NE rogue -- which the characters didn't figure out for quite some time, until I left them all to die (you know...  ). Some small moral qualms, since a few of them were my friends, but generally gold solves all.
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I don't like to have a PC that is female either. Cross gender roleplaying is not a thing for me, and I know very few that do it well. THough I will say that generally females are better at cross gender roleplay than males. Just from what I observed.
I once played a female character. One goofball in the party playing a male character, kept trying to start a romance going. I was completely unreceptive, and if I play a female character I am completely incapable of making her have any romantic interests.
As I've probably mentioned somewhere before, I tend to have half male characters and half female. It comes from mostly DMing, where you have to play all kinds of antagonists / supports, and you have to make up the female presence when your whole campaign consists of a bunch of guys who hate playing ladies.
My favorite, longest running character is female -- a CN rogue, a demure yet intemperate woman who was as likely to run from battle as distract (gulp!) the enemy or sneak off to find treasure / seduce the main enemy. Why? Charisma, baby. She only became better at it in 3e.
This character also ended up married to one of the other PCs (a buddy of mine), but that was due mostly to a love potion scheme gone awry. Basically, my character got tired of not instantly having her will obeyed and decided to make the party mage fall in love with her. It worked, and worked so well that he created (with his excellent intelligence and brewing skills) a love potion to use on her as well. And we all know rogues -- low wisdom, poor will saves, and low fortitude saves as well.
And it was no big deal. So our characters hung out fairly often, worked together on schemes (a rogue and an eldritch knight make a good team, I've found), got teased a little by the other PCs, and made an effort to save one another in combat (mostly him saving her if she got pinned down). Occasionally, we'd have the whole "kidnapped family members" quests, and it would be one PC or the other. They even had children eventually, and that wasn't a big deal either ('coure, it's not like we roleplayed the production side of things  ).
It's a tribute to our respective roleplaying abilities that we were both able to play it well, believably, and it didn't get weird. (LARP might have been a little dicey, but we didn't cross that particular bridge )
Anyway, it's experiences like this that have helped me establish this negative capability thing. I find D&D is an excellent training ground for N.C.
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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 17 Aug 2005 : 17:10:35
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The evil character portion of Wooly's post is pretty much the same for me as well, although I've roleplayed two female PCs -- Granny Weathermax and Lady Kazandra .
Wait -- are you saying you're the Lady K? And you just had a baby... That's some impressive roleplaying!
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The Sage
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Posted - 18 Aug 2005 : 02:09:12
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Originally posted by Kajehase
Granny Weathermax...
Granny Weatermax was one of the most challenging roleplaying experiences I've ever had -- and one of the most rewarding. For some roleplayers, it would be enough of a challenge to roleplay a PC who was a member of the opposite sex, but when you also have to play this same character as an elderly one... that takes quite an amount of skill and patience.
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Wait -- are you saying you're the Lady K? And you just had a baby... That's some impressive roleplaying!
No, no... the actual player character of the Lady Kazandra I roleplayed was for a RL campaign during 2001. Kazandra is actually based on an official NPC (of the same name) from the Ravenloft campaign setting. She is, or rather was (until the Sage [being Rastromo Meradoc] "dispatched" her), the vampiric mistress of the evil Kargatane.
I can't wait until the "Australian" (or rather Welsh) Lady K reads this... .
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warlockco
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Posted - 18 Aug 2005 : 05:25:41
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Originally posted by The Sage
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Originally posted by Kajehase
Granny Weathermax...
Granny Weatermax was one of the most challenging roleplaying experiences I've ever had -- and one of the most rewarding. For some roleplayers, it would be enough of a challenge to roleplay a PC who was a member of the opposite sex, but when you also have to play this same character as an elderly one... that takes quite an amount of skill and patience.
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Wait -- are you saying you're the Lady K? And you just had a baby... That's some impressive roleplaying!
No, no... the actual player character of the Lady Kazandra I roleplayed was for a RL campaign during 2001. Kazandra is actually based on an official NPC (of the same name) from the Ravenloft campaign setting. She is, or rather was (until the Sage [being Rastromo Meradoc] "dispatched" her), the vampiric mistress of the evil Kargatane.
I can't wait until the "Australian" (or rather Welsh) Lady K reads this... .
So does that mean we should prepare the "guest room" for you, as a reservation invite from Lady K? |
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Mournblade
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Posted - 18 Aug 2005 : 06:25:57
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Originally posted by Erik Scott de Bie
('coure, it's not like we roleplayed the production side of things ).
It's a tribute to our respective roleplaying abilities that we were both able to play it well, believably, and it didn't get weird. (LARP might have been a little dicey, but we didn't cross that particular bridge )
Anyway, it's experiences like this that have helped me establish this negative capability thing. I find D&D is an excellent training ground for N.C.
My two coppers.
Cheers
Yes I assure you, I have yet to see a pairing as such in the LARP I am in. However, many many people have gotten involved romantically because of INGAME character relationships.
Still it sounds like you have an incredible group of roleplayers to pull that off without feeling weird.
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Erik Scott de Bie
Forgotten Realms Author
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Posted - 18 Aug 2005 : 16:08:13
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Thanks. I shall pass your compliments along to my hus--er, friend.
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Erik Scott de Bie
'Tis easier to destroy than to create.
Author of a number of Realms novels (GHOSTWALKER, DEPTHS OF MADNESS, and the SHADOWBANE series), contributor to the NEVERWINTER CAMPAIGN GUIDE and SHADOWFELL: GLOOMWROUGHT AND BEYOND, Twitch DM of the Dungeon Scrawlers, currently playing "The Westgate Irregulars" |
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daarkknight
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Posted - 19 Aug 2005 : 02:35:13
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A few examples of things I've done as a PC. To some degree, I may have done them as a shock to my DM at the time, who was easily shocked by some things. 
In one game session, I played a female drow bard, playing up more the dancing aspect of it. The group I had joined had a centaur as a companion. I had decided that the character wanted to "see if what they said about centaurs was true." It took my DM about a minute to think of where to go after I asked that.
Another time, I was playing a drow infiltrator (old 2E kit from the Complete Book of Elves). We were playing during the Crown Wars era, and we were in Miyeritar (just FYI so everyone doesn't think I love playing drow. I don't. But I've seen plenty others that do). I had noticed that some gold elf guards/troops were accosting a female companion of mine. After they let her go, I snuck up on one of the gold elves and used my wand of polymorphing on him, turning him into a rabbit, which I proceeded to hunt and kill.
Taking my hunting prize home with me in a sack, I was late for dinner and the matriarch asked me what I was doing. I calmly raised the sack to my family and said, "I was hunting. Anyone want rabbit?" It took at least 2 minutes of my DM shaking his head before he could just simply reply, "I can't believe you went there."
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What are you willing to Roleplay as PC?
