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KnightErrantJR
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Posted - 15 Jun 2007 :  20:34:31  Show Profile  Visit KnightErrantJR's Homepage Send KnightErrantJR a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Yeah, I read your books in tangled order (Sapphire Crescent, then The Gossamer Plain, then the last two books of the Scions of Arrabar). All very good, by the way.

I didn't want to get too far off track with that, because one of the things that I liked about Emriana is that she starts off as spoiled but likeable, becomes a bit more responsible, but still sounds a tad elitist in the second book, then really has to realize what's important in this one. It was a good progression.

I also liked that a lot of her development played off of people other than Vambran (the "star"), but also off of her grandmother and Xaphira, so that we got to see her emulating the female rolemodels in her life as well as her big brother.

Thanks for responding Thomas.

Edited by - KnightErrantJR on 15 Jun 2007 21:49:45
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
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Posted - 15 Jun 2007 :  23:31:31  Show Profile  Visit Rinonalyrna Fathomlin's Homepage Send Rinonalyrna Fathomlin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
This may come off as a bit stupid, but...it's been a while since I read these books, and I honestly don't remember the rape scene(!).

Could one of you relate what happened, and what chapter it took place in? If you'd jog my memory a bit, I would really appreciate it.

"Instead of asking why we sleep, it might make sense to ask why we wake. Perchance we live to dream. From that perspective, the sea of troubles we navigate in the workaday world might be the price we pay for admission to another night in the world of dreams."
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KnightErrantJR
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Posted - 16 Jun 2007 :  04:00:29  Show Profile  Visit KnightErrantJR's Homepage Send KnightErrantJR a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Rinonalyrna Fathomlin

This may come off as a bit stupid, but...it's been a while since I read these books, and I honestly don't remember the rape scene(!).

Could one of you relate what happened, and what chapter it took place in? If you'd jog my memory a bit, I would really appreciate it.




In Chapter three, after Lobra has the other conspirators turn over Emriana, she uses one of the doppleganers to look like Denrick and "finish what he started." Emriana thinks it is Denrick somehow and in Chapter Seven, its noted that Emriana "didn't have the strength to fight him" anymore, and then the doppleganger tells Lobra that he "tires of this."

Until I read how she reacted, I briefly thought that perhaps the doppleganger was tired of struggling with her, but it seem pretty clear that he followed through on his threats. So its not graphic, but its pretty much spelled out.

The disturbing thing, other than the fact that a very likeable main character has been violated in this manner, is that Lobra is sitting back at watching this, enjoying the "punishment" that she has arranged for Emriana killing her brother.

I noticed that you mentioned Arbeenok being one of your favorite characters in the other thread RF, I was wondering what you liked about him. I liked him, but at the same time, felt that he was one of those characters that (neccissarily) didn't get a lot of time to shine, other than to be at the "right place at the right time" in terms of using the scepter.
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
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Posted - 18 Jun 2007 :  23:58:54  Show Profile  Visit Rinonalyrna Fathomlin's Homepage Send Rinonalyrna Fathomlin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by KnightErrantJR

In Chapter three, after Lobra has the other conspirators turn over Emriana, she uses one of the doppleganers to look like Denrick and "finish what he started." Emriana thinks it is Denrick somehow and in Chapter Seven, its noted that Emriana "didn't have the strength to fight him" anymore, and then the doppleganger tells Lobra that he "tires of this."


Ah, NOW I remember. Thank you for refreshing my memory, even though that part of the book was disturbing.

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I noticed that you mentioned Arbeenok being one of your favorite characters in the other thread RF, I was wondering what you liked about him. I liked him, but at the same time, felt that he was one of those characters that (neccissarily) didn't get a lot of time to shine, other than to be at the "right place at the right time" in terms of using the scepter.



I totally agree with you that he didn't have enough time to shine--that was in fact one of the things that disappointed me about this last book. What did I like about him? He was very strange, but strangely human (I still remember his delight when he tried a certain soup). I remember him as being gentle, but also courageous--a hero.

"Instead of asking why we sleep, it might make sense to ask why we wake. Perchance we live to dream. From that perspective, the sea of troubles we navigate in the workaday world might be the price we pay for admission to another night in the world of dreams."
--Richard Greene (letter to Time)
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Mapolq
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Posted - 21 Nov 2012 :  19:31:51  Show Profile Send Mapolq a Private Message  Reply with Quote
*Resurrect scroll*

I just finished this trilogy, and enjoyed it quite a lot. Especially since I'm planning a campaign involving intrigue within Chondath...

I have a question for everyone. Is it stated anywhere whether Laithe is Eles Wianar's (bastard) daughter? Darvin calls her half-sister when talking to Eles, and the dialogue kinda leads me to believe she's his sister from his mother's side and not Eles'... but it seems very unclear. I don't think anyone mentioned whether she died or not either.

Oh, and I assumed the Ruby Guardian was Hetta.

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