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Lord Bane
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Posted - 17 Sep 2012 :  15:03:45  Show Profile Send Lord Bane a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
http://www.wizards.com/dnd/Product.aspx?x=dnd/products/frnovel/49794000

Has anyone more information on this by chance, the title and the cover does spark my interest.


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Why is there an option to search for a nearby store for an eBook?

This book was mentioned a few months ago... Sounds interesting, but I'm not buying an ebook reader just to read it, and I don't like trying to read books on my phone.

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Erik Scott de Bie
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Posted - 17 Sep 2012 :  15:36:54  Show Profile  Visit Erik Scott de Bie's Homepage Send Erik Scott de Bie a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

Why is there an option to search for a nearby store for an eBook?
That's a legacy bit from their standard book treatment on their website. Every book has that clickable block, at least at first, even if it's not applicable.

quote:
This book was mentioned a few months ago... Sounds interesting, but I'm not buying an ebook reader just to read it, and I don't like trying to read books on my phone.

You really don't need an e-reader. All you need is a computer and one of the free apps, such as this one for the Kindle:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/feature.html?ie=UTF8&docId=1000493771

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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 17 Sep 2012 :  16:40:22  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Erik Scott de Bie

You really don't need an e-reader. All you need is a computer and one of the free apps, such as this one for the Kindle:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/feature.html?ie=UTF8&docId=1000493771

Cheers



I spend way more time staring at a computer screen than I should. When I want to read a book, I want to be away from my computer.

I've tried reading books on my phone, and I can do it... But I usually forget I have books on there, and reach for a proper paperback, instead. So if I'm going to read eBooks, I need either a tablet or a dedicated eReader. My funding isn't as copious as I should like, and there hasn't been that much of a need for a reader, so...

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Lord Bane
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Posted - 17 Sep 2012 :  16:47:29  Show Profile Send Lord Bane a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I do wonder, i heard somewhere that some ebooks are US/North America only, how will that effect people on other continents? Wouldn´t that mean others can get access to them via legal means?

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Hawkins
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Posted - 17 Sep 2012 :  17:15:26  Show Profile  Visit Hawkins's Homepage Send Hawkins a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hm. The description does not mention what era it is set in, though the title could lead one to believe that it would be in a historic era. Also, it saddens me to see a it at the full cost of buying a paperback when it is eBook only. That is one of the reasons I have purchased the few eBook only FR titles that I have, because they are at a reduced price at least (that, and I love Erik's writing).

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Posted - 17 Sep 2012 :  17:50:36  Show Profile  Visit Erik Scott de Bie's Homepage Send Erik Scott de Bie a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Lord Bane

I do wonder, i heard somewhere that some ebooks are US/North America only, how will that effect people on other continents? Wouldn´t that mean others can get access to them via legal means?
WotC is working on their distribution agreements with Random House and international distributors to be able to distribute e-books outside of North America. Paul Kemp announced about a month ago that they have "fixed" it, so now it's a matter of the systems catching up. If you find yourself unable to download a WotC e-book, let me know and I'll either send a note up the line or direct you to where you can do so yourself.

quote:
Originally posted by Hawkins

Hm. The description does not mention what era it is set in, though the title could lead one to believe that it would be in a historic era.
I know enough to say I can't talk about it. Watch for more news.

quote:
Also, it saddens me to see a it at the full cost of buying a paperback when it is eBook only. That is one of the reasons I have purchased the few eBook only FR titles that I have, because they are at a reduced price at least (that, and I love Erik's writing).

Thanks for the plug. Ebook pricing is very much something that should be discussed, but WotC's forums are probably the best place to have your concerns heard by those who can do something about it.

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Clad In Shadows
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Posted - 17 Sep 2012 :  21:28:46  Show Profile Send Clad In Shadows a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Erik, since you seem to be our go-to guy for all things e-book related, do you know if Wizards plans on expanding beyond Kindle and Kobo? I'm thinking specifically Google Books. I just prefer the Google books interface to the respective apps of the above 2.
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Erik Scott de Bie
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Posted - 17 Sep 2012 :  23:58:43  Show Profile  Visit Erik Scott de Bie's Homepage Send Erik Scott de Bie a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Nooks exist, and I think you can get non-specific e-reader versions from the WotC site. I seem to think some of WotC's books are already available as google books, but I could be wrong.

So in short, I don't know?

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Clad In Shadows
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Posted - 19 Sep 2012 :  15:47:33  Show Profile Send Clad In Shadows a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I was gonna add Nook, but then I realized that there is no Nook Android app. I read these things on my Nexus 7 tablet.

I'm willing to get your Shadowbane books on the Kindle app. I would just prefer Google Books. But it's not a dealbreaker.
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Sightless
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Posted - 19 Sep 2012 :  16:02:01  Show Profile Send Sightless a Private Message  Reply with Quote
And for some reason my screen-reader doesn't like Kindle's format.

:(

No e-books for sightless for a while then.

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Zacas
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Posted - 15 Nov 2012 :  10:52:48  Show Profile  Visit Zacas's Homepage Send Zacas a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Any ideas if this has been officially cancelled? Amazon took down the preorder option and pricing info saying it's no longer available... and had listed its publication before as jan 1, 2035... and the wizards' page for it is gone too... so another mysterious cancellation like Demon Weave?

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Caolin
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This is something that has me extremely upset with WoTC. They seemed to have had a pretty good lineup set for the end of this year and the beginning of the next. But now they appear to have axed 3 novels (Rise of the Zhentarim, The Spider and the Stone, and Demon Weave) and moved back the Lesser Evils novels. Now there are only 2 novels coming out over the next 4 months.

It's pretty damn disappointing. Erik, do you have any knowledge of why they have thinned out the novel heard for the upcoming future? Don't they want our money?

EDIT:

I just found out that Spider and Stone was released as an eBook only this month. Completely passed by my radar, which is rare. WoTC might want to invest a little more in marketing.

Edited by - Caolin on 16 Nov 2012 00:09:24
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Tanthalas
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Posted - 16 Nov 2012 :  18:17:18  Show Profile Send Tanthalas a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Has it really been released? Still shows up as a 2013 book for me on amazon.

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Caolin
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Posted - 16 Nov 2012 :  19:25:15  Show Profile Send Caolin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Tanthalas

Has it really been released? Still shows up as a 2013 book for me on amazon.



I'm not sure if this is Amazon's bad or if it's WoTC's bad. But there appears to be two pages for this novel. Either way, WoTC should get on Amazon to fix the issue.

http://www.amazon.com/Spider-and-Stone-ebook/dp/B009MY9QXM/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1353093821&sr=8-1&keywords=Spider+and+Stone
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jornan
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Posted - 16 Nov 2012 :  21:41:13  Show Profile Send jornan a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Spider and Stone has been cancelledÉ
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Tanthalas
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Posted - 16 Nov 2012 :  21:42:00  Show Profile Send Tanthalas a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I thought the problems WotC was having with the international distribution of e-books was resolved. I can't buy the book. /sigh

EDIT: So if the book is cancelled, the guy that posted a review of the book was lying?

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Edited by - Tanthalas on 16 Nov 2012 21:43:23
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Caolin
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Posted - 16 Nov 2012 :  21:48:29  Show Profile Send Caolin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Definitely not canceled. I'm reading it right now.

Ugh, that sucks Tanthalas. It's a shame how messed up foreign distributions are.

Edited by - Caolin on 16 Nov 2012 21:53:07
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Tanthalas
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Posted - 16 Nov 2012 :  22:50:52  Show Profile Send Tanthalas a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Oh well, hopefully the book will be made available overseas in the next few weeks.

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Erik Scott de Bie
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Posted - 19 Nov 2012 :  16:59:29  Show Profile  Visit Erik Scott de Bie's Homepage Send Erik Scott de Bie a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Clad In Shadows

I was gonna add Nook, but then I realized that there is no Nook Android app. I read these things on my Nexus 7 tablet.
I'm willing to get your Shadowbane books on the Kindle app. I would just prefer Google Books. But it's not a dealbreaker.
I definitely appreciate that! Generally, I'm a proponent of wider distribution (WotC should sell books through Google, iTunes, etc). I suspect it's a money issue, but I'm really not party to the google books discussion.

quote:
Originally posted by Zacas

Any ideas if this has been officially cancelled? Amazon took down the preorder option and pricing info saying it's no longer available... and had listed its publication before as jan 1, 2035... and the wizards' page for it is gone too... so another mysterious cancellation like Demon Weave?
As far as I know, Bound by Blood is off the table at this point. I'm not a WotC employee or official, however, so an official release trumps anything I might say.

quote:
Originally posted by Caolin

This is something that has me extremely upset with WoTC. They seemed to have had a pretty good lineup set for the end of this year and the beginning of the next. But now they appear to have axed 3 novels (Rise of the Zhentarim, The Spider and the Stone, and Demon Weave) and moved back the Lesser Evils novels. Now there are only 2 novels coming out over the next 4 months.
It's pretty damn disappointing. Erik, do you have any knowledge of why they have thinned out the novel heard for the upcoming future? Don't they want our money?
I have no official comment on their motivations or technique. All I can do is recommend you go on the WotC boards and express your opinions. If you want more books, more of your favorite authors, etc., you need to go say so. You should be posting reviews online, talking up the books on forums, and posting on WotC's boards. WotC needs to hear your voice.

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Caolin
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Posted - 19 Nov 2012 :  19:43:29  Show Profile Send Caolin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I have made a post over there concerning the lack of upcoming novel releases. But it didn't get much interest from the posting public.

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lordduck
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Posted - 20 Nov 2012 :  03:05:21  Show Profile Send lordduck a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Was really looking forward to these novels, especially Demon Weave, hope they have been postponed and not cancelled :/
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jornan
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Posted - 20 Nov 2012 :  03:31:12  Show Profile Send jornan a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I'm not particularly dissapointed. I would much rather have a book written about the Zhentarim that is more like Cormyr: A Novel or Evermeet: Island of the Elves. Or a series or books set-up like the Harpers but about the Zhents.

I have had much bigger dissapointments with cancelled FR books than this.

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Zireael
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Posted - 20 Nov 2012 :  08:40:12  Show Profile  Visit Zireael's Homepage Send Zireael a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by jornan

I'm not particularly dissapointed. I would much rather have a book written about the Zhentarim that is more like Cormyr: A Novel or Evermeet: Island of the Elves. Or a series or books set-up like the Harpers but about the Zhents.

I have had much bigger dissapointments with cancelled FR books than this.

*ahem* Reclaimation/Serpent's Daughter



Serpent's Daughter was cancelled? Oh my gosh... *sits down and weeps*

With all the cancelling going on, I think I might just give up on the Realms...

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ElaineCunningham
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quote:
Originally posted by Zireael

quote:
Originally posted by jornan

I'm not particularly dissapointed. I would much rather have a book written about the Zhentarim that is more like Cormyr: A Novel or Evermeet: Island of the Elves. Or a series or books set-up like the Harpers but about the Zhents.

I have had much bigger dissapointments with cancelled FR books than this.

*ahem* Reclaimation/Serpent's Daughter



Serpent's Daughter was cancelled? Oh my gosh... *sits down and weeps*

With all the cancelling going on, I think I might just give up on the Realms...



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Erik Scott de Bie
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Posted - 20 Nov 2012 :  19:56:15  Show Profile  Visit Erik Scott de Bie's Homepage Send Erik Scott de Bie a Private Message  Reply with Quote
To echo Elaine, keep the faith, and do not lose hope!

Express your opinions to WotC--they are listening. Tell them what you want.

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ile
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Posted - 20 Nov 2012 :  20:59:59  Show Profile  Visit ile's Homepage Send ile a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Maybe their newest policy,e-books only,didn't bring the results they were hoping for.

Edited by - ile on 20 Nov 2012 21:00:34
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Caolin
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quote:
Originally posted by ile

Maybe their newest policy,e-books only,didn't bring the results they were hoping for.



I think it may be too early to tell at this point. But they haven't done a very good job of marketing their novels. I mean, people are having to hunt for Spider and Stone.
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Tanthalas
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Posted - 20 Nov 2012 :  22:43:55  Show Profile Send Tanthalas a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The only thing I can say about their e-book only policy is that I never had a problem buying their physical books before, but most of their digital catalogue continues to be inaccessible for people living outside North America.

I thought this problem had been sorted out a few weeks ago when a handful of WotC books were made available, but I can't buy Spider and Stone, so yeah.

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The Sage
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quote:
Originally posted by ile

Maybe their newest policy,e-books only,didn't bring the results they were hoping for.

I think that's a little harsh.

It's more likely that Wizards still haven't smoothed out all the "e-bumps" in their e-books online distribution policy.

Give them a little more time and patience.

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What I do know is that for the past 18 years I have purchased every single FR book that was published and in the past year since ebook exclusive publications have started to happen I have become more choosy in the FR books that I purchase...both paperback and ebook. I like ebooks as an option, but limiting my freedom to choose a format made me choose to buy less books in general from this publisher.
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