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webmanus
Learned Scribe
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 Posted - 10 Aug 2005 : 19:58:38
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Hi folks!
I have a several questions about shiled dwarves and families. This would be around 1200 DR, thus before the Tunder Blessing (TB, 1306 DR) ...
 In average, at which age would a male/female dwarf get marriaged?
In average, at which age would the 1st children, 2nd, 3rd, and so on be borned?
In average, how many children could a family have?
Other issues?
In Dwarves Deep (FR11, 1990), page 6, it is stated that about 70% of the births are male and that only about 55% of the dwarves are fertile ... I Assume that the figures are pre TB. How would this be after the Thunder Blessing?
Do you some reading to suggest ....
Best regards,
webmanus
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Misericordia
Seeker
Italy
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Posted - 10 Aug 2005 : 20:21:06
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| After TB birthrates among dwarves have risen to about half that of the humans (I've read in a dwarf NPC stat somewhere). Now, I've no idea indeed of human birthrate! |
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Kentinal
Great Reader
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Posted - 10 Aug 2005 : 21:05:35
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Originally posted by webmanus
Hi folks!
I have a several questions about shiled dwarves and families. This would be around 1200 DR, thus before the Tunder Blessing (TB, 1306 DR) ...
There are no official answers that I know of, however will offer a few guesseses as to posible answers.quote:
In average, at which age would a male/female dwarf get marriaged?
Perhaps an average of 80 years, there will be some foolish ones getting married as soon as 40 or so and others that would wait past 100. quote:
In average, at which age would the 1st children, 2nd, 3rd, and so on be borned?
Perhaps children would be as much as 10 years apart. No matter what age of marrage, I would see conception of first child within two years of marrage.quote:
In average, how many children could a family have?
If using 10 years apart and 40 to 125 years for fertile period, it could reach 8 per female. From indications the average family would be two to four, "I have no time for your playing now"quote:
Other issues?
[/unquote] Gestation period certainly can be a factor, though I suspect it lower then the two year elf one.[quote]
In Dwarves Deep (FR11, 1990), page 6, it is stated that about 70% of the births are male and that only about 55% of the dwarves are fertile ... I Assume that the figures are pre TB. How would this be after the Thunder Blessing?
I infer that female fertility rate nears 90 percent and they find more time for such foolishness. There also might be an increase in percentage of females. |
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webmanus
Learned Scribe
Sweden
338 Posts |
Posted - 10 Aug 2005 : 21:11:46
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| Kentinal! Once again you come to my help. Many thanks, axe high ... or something like that ... Now I will see if I manage to create a family ... no no no Kentinal ... not that ... :) |
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Kentinal
Great Reader
4689 Posts |
Posted - 10 Aug 2005 : 21:18:51
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Originally posted by Misericordia
After TB birthrates among dwarves have risen to about half that of the humans (I've read in a dwarf NPC stat somewhere). Now, I've no idea indeed of human birthrate!
Average birth rate tended in Medieval times is uncertain, because there are indications a birth of a child that did not live to 5 years of age did not count. The average family size appears to have been in the range of 4.5 to 5.5 family members. The wife could have dead in child birth leaving a family with a father and perhaps four children from first wife. The potential reaches 30 children per female (without twins or greater).
In a magical and effective herb realm the number of mothers and children surviving could be much higher then historical Earth statistics.
For Realms the only way to know average birth rate per race is getting an official answer. Different rules apply, the potential for many births exist and in part are needed to replace combat loses. |
"Small beings can have small wisdom," the dragon said. "And small wise beings are better than small fools. Listen: Wisdom is caring for afterwards."
"Caring for afterwards ...? Ker repeated this without understanding.
"After action, afterwards," the dragon said. "Choose the afterwards first, then the action. Fools choose action first."
"Judgement" copyright 2003 by Elizabeth Moon |
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Kentinal
Great Reader
4689 Posts |
Posted - 10 Aug 2005 : 21:32:25
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Originally posted by webmanus
Kentinal! Once again you come to my help. Many thanks, axe high ... or something like that ... Now I will see if I manage to create a family ... no no no Kentinal ... not that ... :)
"Axes high" I believe is the common salutation.
My numbers are just guesses and have no base in Realmslore or Core D&D. Just things I would use as a duideline as posibilities. Each race must be able to replace its loses or it will disappear from the world. What the numbers are is imposible to know without somebody tracking the births and deaths of each race. All I offered was a guess. I picture some females even after TB still not wanting to get married or waste time on such foolishness married or unmarried. |
"Small beings can have small wisdom," the dragon said. "And small wise beings are better than small fools. Listen: Wisdom is caring for afterwards."
"Caring for afterwards ...? Ker repeated this without understanding.
"After action, afterwards," the dragon said. "Choose the afterwards first, then the action. Fools choose action first."
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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Posted - 10 Aug 2005 : 23:07:54
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Originally posted by webmanus
In average, at which age would the 1st children, 2nd, 3rd, and so on be borned?
The children? At birth, they have no age!    |
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iamunknown
Acolyte
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Posted - 26 Sep 2005 : 11:56:56
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| in my eyes the children would be 50 years apart...you may think its too high, but my logic is that a 2nd child would not be born until the 1st was old enough and had begun his aprenticeship |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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Posted - 26 Sep 2005 : 17:27:26
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Originally posted by iamunknown
in my eyes the children would be 50 years apart...you may think its too high, but my logic is that a 2nd child would not be born until the 1st was old enough and had begun his aprenticeship
That works, if the births were deliberate... But if they just happen, as many real-world births do, then there could be any number of years between births.
In my own family, there have been births as close together as 1.5 years (my niece and my nephew) and as far apart as 22 years (myself and my youngest half-brother). I think that in dwarven families, similar principles would apply. |
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iamunknown
Acolyte
USA
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Posted - 26 Sep 2005 : 21:38:43
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
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Originally posted by iamunknown
in my eyes the children would be 50 years apart...you may think its too high, but my logic is that a 2nd child would not be born until the 1st was old enough and had begun his aprenticeship
That works, if the births were deliberate... But if they just happen, as many real-world births do, then there could be any number of years between births.
In my own family, there have been births as close together as 1.5 years (my niece and my nephew) and as far apart as 22 years (myself and my youngest half-brother). I think that in dwarven families, similar principles would apply.
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