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StromLancer
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 Posted - 03 Aug 2005 : 13:12:23
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Hail to all the scribes of candlekeep! Here is something I had been quietly pondering about. Faerun seems to me to be filled with a lot of Half-Xs these days which sometimes amuses me. By the way, Half-Xs refers to Half-elves, half-orcs, half-dragons (a rare breed indeed), half-dwarves(an idea that often amuses though I know it is a crazy idea) and some rumors like elflings(cross between halflings and elves, weird huh?)and half-avariels(a breed that I had been thinking about), and well here are somethings I had been pondering about for each of the Half-Xs.
Half-elves.
1) Curious, why most half-elves tend to descend from the moon elves mostly? Moon elves more 'popular' than the other elves of non-moon elven origin or is it moon elves more approchable than the other type of elves?
2) Second, The Eldreth Veluuthra is well known for being anti-human, so do they consider half-elves as "blasphermorous creatures"? Surely they would be secretly campaigning against them.
3) Third, are their lifespans that long as their elven parent?
4) Any comments about the half-elves of sun elf, wood elf and wild elf origins?
5) There are some comments in the web that female elves tend to have low fertility rates so that's why the elven race seemed to be dwindling in number, what's your view?
6) Who is the first Half-elf to walk the realms? Does Correllon frown on half-elves?
Half-orcs
1) It seemed half-orcs are not so widely accepted in the realms, but are there any half-orc sorcerers or half-orc wizards in the realms?
2) Curious, why orcs look toward non-orcs for mates than their own race, is the orc race becoming more sterile?(Not meant as an offensive statment)
3) What's your personal views on half-orcs?
Half-dragons
It is known that half-dragons are very rare in the realms,
1) Any idea how a half-dragon looks like?
2) Which is the most common draconic ancestry for half-dragons (I mean they descend from which kind of dragon like white or shadow wryms)
3) Any famous half-dragons in the realms?
4) What's your personal views on half-dragons?
5) Why do the wryms choose a small folk to be their mates when they tend to despise the small folk which they think themselves superior to them?
Half-dwarves
Well, speculate on it, everyone!
Elflings
Well, speculate on it, everyone!
Half-avariels
An interesting idea to me it seems, I had never heard of half-avariels but I just thought of it, so please post what you think on Half-avariels, preferably something on their appearance and acceptance into human and avariel societies.
I know it's a long list, well? What's your views and answers to the above list?
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Kajehase
Great Reader
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Posted - 03 Aug 2005 : 13:39:41
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Half-elves:
1. Moon elves are the most common type of elves in human societies - Waterdeep for instance - so logically this would be the reason that there are more half-humans with a moon-elf parent than there are half-wood elves.
2. The Eldreth Veluthra may be well-connected, but its still a fairly small organisation (it has to be in order to keep its level of secrecy), and remember that the most common alignment among all types of surface-elves is Chaotic Good, in other words, while there may be some frowning upon mixing with humans, this usually only apply to humans as a group, not individuals that have proven themselves good people.
3. No; see The Player's Handbook, or Player's Guide to Faerūn for details.
4. Half sun-elves should probably be quite common, wild elves and wood elves are more isolationist, so probably quite rare (except possibly in parts of the Dalelands).
6. No idea. And why should he?
Half-orcs
2. Because they're generally brutish, evil creatures who loot, burn, and rape.
3. Gods they're so ugly only their mother could love them.
Half-dragons
2. No basis for this, but I'd assume naturally shape-changing dragons would be most common - silvers for example.
3. No idea, but Narnra from Elminster's Daughter might become quite well known in some circles at least.
4. As long as they don't scratch too much in bed I have no problems with them.
5. Because not all of them despise the small folks? Especially silvers and song dragons probably spend more time in humanoid form than in their true shape.
Half-avariels
If half-wood elves are rare, half-avariels should be all but non-existant (except possibly in Lyrabar, Taegan seemed like a good flirt ), remember that there only exists one avariel dwelling in the Realsm that we know off, and that is situated in a very remote location, populated by a people that does its best to remain hidden. |
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Rhezarnos
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Posted - 03 Aug 2005 : 14:38:46
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Half-orcs.
1) If you count Xanos from NWN: Shadows of Undrentide, then yes. He's a half-orc sorceror. |
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FreezeChaser
Acolyte
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Posted - 03 Aug 2005 : 14:41:06
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Originally posted by Rhezarnos
Half-orcs.
1) If you count Xanos from NWN: Shadows of Undrentide, then yes. He's a half-orc sorceror.
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Rhezarnos
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Posted - 03 Aug 2005 : 14:48:53
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Originally posted by FreezeChaser
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Originally posted by Rhezarnos
Half-orcs.
1) If you count Xanos from NWN: Shadows of Undrentide, then yes. He's a half-orc sorceror.
Can I know what NWN means?
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Shadovar
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 03 Aug 2005 : 14:49:10
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originally posted by StromLancer
Half-avariels
An interesting idea to me it seems, I had never heard of half-avariels but I just thought of it, so please post what you think on Half-avariels, preferably something on their appearance and acceptance into human and avariel societies.
It is a very rare to see half-avariels in the realms. Well, concerning their appearance, their skin is pale and their eyes are blue and sometimes hazel. Hair color is nearly always the same as the elven parent. Also it is said that they do have the same far-off look in their eyes as the averiel do. Most do not develop wings, but those that do have such wings, well, their wings matches the avariel parent. These wings are often useless, except for great leaps but not for flying. For in avariel societies, I doubt these half-avariels will be treated fairly anyway. In human societies, well that depends on how humans view them as. |
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Shadovar
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Posted - 03 Aug 2005 : 15:20:50
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originally posted by StromLancer
2) Curious, why orcs look toward non-orcs for mates than their own race, is the orc race becoming more sterile?(Not meant as an offensive statment)
3) What's your personal views on half-orcs?
Half-orcs
2) Perhaps they find their own race a bit too ugly and unattractive for breeding. Ha, I think orc females must be worse looking than the male orcs.
3) A disgruntled race that commonly finds a job as a mercenary for hire.
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originally posted by StromLancer
Half-elves.
1) Curious, why most half-elves tend to descend from the moon elves mostly? Moon elves more 'popular' than the other elves of non-moon elven origin or is it moon elves more approchable than the other type of elves?
2) Second, The Eldreth Veluuthra is well known for being anti-human, so do they consider half-elves as "blasphermorous creatures"? Surely they would be secretly campaigning against them.
3) Third, are their lifespans that long as their elven parent?
4) Any comments about the half-elves of sun elf, wood elf and wild elf origins?
5) There are some comments in the web that female elves tend to have low fertility rates so that's why the elven race seemed to be dwindling in number, what's your view?
6) Who is the first Half-elf to walk the realms? Does Correllon frown on half-elves?
Half-elves
1) Half-moon elves are much more common than other half elven types, yes, it is expected anyway as the moon elves are more outgoing and less aloof and curious type of folk, and have the most contact with humans, of course given that they are so widely found in human cities and they often travel here and there in the realms.
2) Only The Eldreth Veluuthra know what they are doing.
3) Not really that long as their elven parent but longer than their human parent, I think. Still, half-elves also age with time anyway.
4) Half elves of sun elf origins tend to share some of the arrogant characteristics of their sun elf parents. Half-wood elves are a rare breed and rarely seen, how the Half-wood elves originate? Well, I am unsure.
5) Small wonder the elven race seems to be an "endangered" species on Faerun given their losses in numbers throughout history especially the Crown Wars.
6) There is indeed an famous half-elf to walk the realms from what i recall..., Corellon has no reason to frown on half-elves anyway. |
We have fostered trust, recruited loyalty, and gathered the faithful. We have trained thousands. Our legions can cover the land, fill the sky and travel through the darkness. We can hunt any and all that would deny our heritage. Now is our time, now is the time of the Dark Reign(Rain) of the Empire of Shadows.
- High Prince Telemont Tanthul, Lord Shadow
In a speech given to the citizens of Shade Enclave
At the celebration of the Shinantra Battle victory when he revealed that he was THE Lord Shadow of legend. |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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Posted - 03 Aug 2005 : 17:17:46
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Originally posted by StromLancer
Half-elves.
1) Curious, why most half-elves tend to descend from the moon elves mostly? Moon elves more 'popular' than the other elves of non-moon elven origin or is it moon elves more approchable than the other type of elves?
2) Second, The Eldreth Veluuthra is well known for being anti-human, so do they consider half-elves as "blasphermorous creatures"? Surely they would be secretly campaigning against them.
3) Third, are their lifespans that long as their elven parent?
4) Any comments about the half-elves of sun elf, wood elf and wild elf origins?
5) There are some comments in the web that female elves tend to have low fertility rates so that's why the elven race seemed to be dwindling in number, what's your view?
6) Who is the first Half-elf to walk the realms? Does Correllon frown on half-elves?
1) Moon elves get along with humans more readily than any other elven race. So they'll be more likely to have a fling with a human. Other half-elven races are certainly possible, just not as common.
2) If I remember correctly, the EV hates half-elves about as much as they hate humans. "Why should someone so perfect as an elf sully themselves by procreating with a barely sentient creature like a human?"
3) They live a bit longer than humans, but nowhere near as long as elves.
4) They're out there...
5) Yup, elves simply don't procreate as much as other races.
6) We don't know who the first half-elf was. 'Twas thousands of years ago... As for Corellon, I'd not think he has a problem with half-elves. We know of a half-elf who weilds a moonblade, and who has not only served elven interests but has also participated in elven rituals... |
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iamunknown
Acolyte
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Posted - 03 Aug 2005 : 18:57:07
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| according to FR11 dwarves deep, half-dwarves do exist, they look exactly like dwarves except they are about a foot taller then typical |
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Xysma
Master of Realmslore
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Kuje
Great Reader
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Posted - 03 Aug 2005 : 20:29:42
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Originally posted by iamunknown
according to FR11 dwarves deep, half-dwarves do exist, they look exactly like dwarves except they are about a foot taller then typical
Yup, and there's at least 7 or so that have been named or stat'd. |
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Crennen FaerieBane
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 03 Aug 2005 : 21:51:56
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Originally posted by Kuje
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Originally posted by iamunknown
according to FR11 dwarves deep, half-dwarves do exist, they look exactly like dwarves except they are about a foot taller then typical
Yup, and there's at least 7 or so that have been named or stat'd.
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Kuje, where are these stats for the Half-Dwarves? I am curious, I want to check this out.
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RAKKIR
Seeker
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Posted - 03 Aug 2005 : 22:10:21
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I agree.
I think there are far to many "half" thins running around in TSR books now. Half-orcs are cool, as are half-elves. I can...deal with...half-dwarves. But now at least 50% of the character races...actually more than 50%...are just strange. We've got tieflings, and half-dragons, and half-this...and genasai...and 3/4 demons (According to another post somewhere in this forum the are stated somewhere) and half-drow...the list goes on.
I think I was most disgusted by "Half-vampires" in Libris Mortis. Seriously....if you guys know about the "Elf Only Inn" comic you'll know how true it really is. Half-vampires....ugghhhh.
And that whole idea that "a vampire freshly infused with blood can procreate" is...well, I don't agree with it and it won't enter into my campaign. Vampires are undead. Hence, (baring a few specific types of undead such as Baelnorn and Archliches) they are an unnatural creation and utterly evil. The whole point is they are twisted by evil and shall never again know the joys of humanity. They have been permanently cut off from everything that makes them human (elven, dwarven, whatever) and are a perversion. And because they realize this, they are wicked hatefull creatures. So, the idea that a vampire would know "lust" in a sexual manner (a human trait shared by the LIVING) seems false to me. I can see the "perverse" form of this being a vampire creating other vampires in order so spread his "seed." You know, something along the lines of "instead of spreading life in the world as mortals do, they spread death and darkness in their 'children.'" What is the idea, that a vampire looses his "undead" status just long enough to breed. If a vampire becomes "partially" alive after feeding then why not have them loose their powers for a time?
And before we talk about Jander Sunstar being good, I think it's important to note he was SPECIAL in a very unique sort of way. Hence, why he got a book.
I tottally think half-vampires were nothing more than a way to cater to the teeny-bopper crowd who want to play a "Vampyre, half"...and yes I did spell it with a "Y" because they always do. You know, because the normal, modern, english spelling is not "cool" or "unique" enough.
Now, granted, if it makes the game more fun for someone to play a "half-vampyre" then fine. The whole point of the game is to have fun. I'm just somewhat displeased with the pokemon, final-fantasy, anime generation that is growing up and how they take to RPing. WOTC knows that crowd (with the rather large disposable income children have nowadays thanks to mom and dad) is where their bread is buttered income wise, and hence it is the demgraphic they target.
I just wish these kids first experience with Role-Playing wasn't usually through mediums that don't always encourage a lot of creativity besides min/maxing the rules of whatever video-game they are playing.
Of course, I'm just still bitter of 3E in general so everything I say is highly biased. I just wish the illustrations all weren't so anime/cartoon/pokemonish. I remember the good old days of people like Larry Elmore. Where is the iconic "Lord Soth's Charge" in 3E? When I saw 3E I just groaned. I'm still railing against Orc-Paladins and super-powers....err...I mean "feats." Sure, now that I've come to know it better...I can see how some of the stuff -IS- indeed better than 2E...but I can't just bring myself to like all of it. I'm just highly resistant to change. Good thing is....your campaign can be ANYTHING you want...hence you don't have to use what you don't want to.
As an aside....remember how 3E was supposed to be more simple than 2E in some ways? And streamlined? The whole joke with 1st edition was "there was a table for everything." You notice how 3E is starting to get that way to?
I remember reading here once, I think it was in Ed Greenwood's responses...though I may be wrong so please excuse me. Anyways, I remember reading how like a good portion of his books get chopped because the editors are "okay, it's been 3 pages without a swordfight...insert some battle here" and "We'll take out some stuff here that enriches the world greatly" to make room.
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Mournblade
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 03 Aug 2005 : 22:10:32
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Too many half breeds is a problem though.
I tend to limit them to the standard in my campaign, though I allow half dragons, half celestials and half fiends. I don't like the trend of constantly halfing things.
That is what got me to stop watching startrek.
They started halving EVERYONE. I can accept Half breeds more in D&D because it is magic, but a show like Star Trek which claims to be based on SCience (though it is sorely lacking) should not allow things like half clingon half humans. No way their genes would mix, especially since Clingons have redundant body systems and humans do not.
Half breeds to me should be done carefully, and logically. Granted D&D has the magic way of breeding things like Dragons and Humans, but I am noticing a trend of way TOO MANY half things.
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Mournblade
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 03 Aug 2005 : 22:24:31
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Originally posted by RAKKIR
I agree.
I just wish these kids first experience with Role-Playing wasn't usually through mediums that don't always encourage a lot of creativity besides min/maxing the rules of whatever video-game they are playing.
As an aside....remember how 3E was supposed to be more simple than 2E in some ways? And streamlined? The whole joke with 1st edition was "there was a table for everything." You notice how 3E is starting to get that way to?
I remember reading here once, I think it was in Ed Greenwood's responses...though I may be wrong so please excuse me. Anyways, I remember reading how like a good portion of his books get chopped because the editors are "okay, it's been 3 pages without a swordfight...insert some battle here" and "We'll take out some stuff here that enriches the world greatly" to make room.
ARRGHHHHH!!!
OK RAKKIR (red archer perhaps?)
You just hit EVERY PET PEEVE I HAVE WITH GAMERS NOW.
Thank you! I am glad I am not the only one to notice. I also noticed (and I am high school teacher) that the gamers now really are not reading all that much. Most of their ideas come from movies and video games. I love the Forgotten Realms books, but if that is your only form of reading you are sorely lacking. I find now when I read an FR book I am often skimming through the fight scenes, to find out the outcome and trying to get back to the story.
Younger gamers if you are reading this you need to find the roots of it all. Read eddings, read Tolkein, Moorcock, McCaffery, Anthony, all those guys that basically outlined the genre for us.
I like the video games as much as anyone, but I think my enjoyment of them is even more because of my familiarity with the genre.
After all... last day of school... I challenge students to Halo II for extra credit points.
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Kuje
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Posted - 04 Aug 2005 : 00:27:56
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Originally posted by CrennenFaerieBane
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Originally posted by Kuje
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Originally posted by iamunknown
according to FR11 dwarves deep, half-dwarves do exist, they look exactly like dwarves except they are about a foot taller then typical
Yup, and there's at least 7 or so that have been named or stat'd.
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Kuje, where are these stats for the Half-Dwarves? I am curious, I want to check this out.
C-Fb
I don't think they were ever given a monster write up, so there's no monster half-dwarf stats. :)
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The Sage
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Posted - 04 Aug 2005 : 02:05:48
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Originally posted by Kuje
For the other poster about vampires, do remember that there was a Lawful GOOD vampire in 1e in Lords of Darkness, and there have been one or two other vampires who are good in FR lore. :)
Indeed.
And RAKKIR... while he is LE, recall also Asraf yn Malik el Kahaman yi Manshaka, a vampire committed to serving Khelben and the goals of the Moonstars.
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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 04 Aug 2005 : 03:15:38
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Originally posted by The Sage
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Originally posted by Kuje
For the other poster about vampires, do remember that there was a Lawful GOOD vampire in 1e in Lords of Darkness, and there have been one or two other vampires who are good in FR lore. :)
Indeed.
And RAKKIR... while he is LE, recall also Asraf yn Malik el Kahaman yi Manshaka, a vampire committed to serving Khelben and the goals of the Moonstars.
And there's another vampire serving the Tel'Teukiira, though no info was given about him. |
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warlockco
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 04 Aug 2005 : 08:01:56
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Originally posted by Mournblade
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Originally posted by RAKKIR
I agree.
I just wish these kids first experience with Role-Playing wasn't usually through mediums that don't always encourage a lot of creativity besides min/maxing the rules of whatever video-game they are playing.
As an aside....remember how 3E was supposed to be more simple than 2E in some ways? And streamlined? The whole joke with 1st edition was "there was a table for everything." You notice how 3E is starting to get that way to?
I remember reading here once, I think it was in Ed Greenwood's responses...though I may be wrong so please excuse me. Anyways, I remember reading how like a good portion of his books get chopped because the editors are "okay, it's been 3 pages without a swordfight...insert some battle here" and "We'll take out some stuff here that enriches the world greatly" to make room.
ARRGHHHHH!!!
OK RAKKIR (red archer perhaps?)
You just hit EVERY PET PEEVE I HAVE WITH GAMERS NOW.
Thank you! I am glad I am not the only one to notice. I also noticed (and I am high school teacher) that the gamers now really are not reading all that much. Most of their ideas come from movies and video games. I love the Forgotten Realms books, but if that is your only form of reading you are sorely lacking. I find now when I read an FR book I am often skimming through the fight scenes, to find out the outcome and trying to get back to the story.
Younger gamers if you are reading this you need to find the roots of it all. Read eddings, read Tolkein, Moorcock, McCaffery, Anthony, all those guys that basically outlined the genre for us.
I like the video games as much as anyone, but I think my enjoyment of them is even more because of my familiarity with the genre.
After all... last day of school... I challenge students to Halo II for extra credit points.
I used to challenge them to Street Fighter.. but they just HAD NO CHANCE
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RAKKIR
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Posted - 04 Aug 2005 : 14:49:52
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Sorry, I'm not really sure who "Red Archer" is. Actually, the phrase "not really sure" is misleading. I don't have a freaking clue.
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Crennen FaerieBane
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 04 Aug 2005 : 15:49:17
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Wait a second, guys, does this mean I can't play my half-umberhulk anymore?????  |
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Forge
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Posted - 04 Aug 2005 : 16:01:56
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Well, in all fairness, mixed breed races are inevitable in a world where magic can easily facilitate breeding. I say inevitable in the sense the down the line, provided the planet doesn't catastrophically detonate SOMEONE SOMEWHERE will feel the need to boink whatever it is, or magically infuse it with random genes. Particularly this is true in the higher lifeforms.
Wait long enough and the whole population will be able to trace their genetics back to some non-human race.
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iamunknown
Acolyte
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Posted - 04 Aug 2005 : 16:32:56
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Originally posted by CrennenFaerieBane
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Originally posted by Kuje
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Originally posted by iamunknown
according to FR11 dwarves deep, half-dwarves do exist, they look exactly like dwarves except they are about a foot taller then typical
Yup, and there's at least 7 or so that have been named or stat'd.
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Kuje, where are these stats for the Half-Dwarves? I am curious, I want to check this out.
C-Fb
they were meantioned in fr11 dwarves deep, and half-dwarves are treated as dwarves, so you would use the dwarf stats |
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Crennen FaerieBane
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 04 Aug 2005 : 17:06:05
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Thanks, iamunknown, now all I have to do is go procure that tome so I can create my half-dwarf/half-umberhulk characters. (Ok, folks, I am joking!!)
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Steven Schend
Forgotten Realms Designer & Author
USA
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Posted - 04 Aug 2005 : 18:18:00
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Originally posted by The Sage
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Originally posted by Kuje
For the other poster about vampires, do remember that there was a Lawful GOOD vampire in 1e in Lords of Darkness, and there have been one or two other vampires who are good in FR lore. :)
Indeed.
And RAKKIR... while he is LE, recall also Asraf yn Malik el Kahaman yi Manshaka, a vampire committed to serving Khelben and the goals of the Moonstars.
And I'd guarantee that your collective heads would spin if you were to find out exactly what committments/vows Khelben has tying up Asraf's loyalties..... 
Steven
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Sir Luther Cromwell
Learned Scribe
Canada
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Posted - 04 Aug 2005 : 23:17:07
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Ah yes, the many many MANY half-breeds of Faerun. And your list doesn't even include some extra planar ideas, such as using the Tiefling race more as a template. Could you imagine a tiefling Halfling? Ultimate rogue to the extreme!
^suddenly makes sure his wallet is still on his body^
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36804 Posts |
Posted - 04 Aug 2005 : 23:37:40
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Originally posted by Sir Luther Cromwell
Ah yes, the many many MANY half-breeds of Faerun. And your list doesn't even include some extra planar ideas, such as using the Tiefling race more as a template. Could you imagine a tiefling Halfling? Ultimate rogue to the extreme!
^suddenly makes sure his wallet is still on his body^
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Erik Scott de Bie
Forgotten Realms Author
USA
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Posted - 05 Aug 2005 : 02:27:50
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Originally posted by Steven Schend
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Originally posted by The Sage
[quote]Originally posted by Kuje
And RAKKIR... while he is LE, recall also Asraf yn Malik el Kahaman yi Manshaka, a vampire committed to serving Khelben and the goals of the Moonstars.
And I'd guarantee that your collective heads would spin if you were to find out exactly what committments/vows Khelben has tying up Asraf's loyalties.....
Steven
Who really ought to go figure out exactly what dirt Khelben holds on each and every NPC in the Realms....because y'all know he does...."to protect you from yourselves, of course..."
Has Khelben invented the nth level Wizard spell: "Microfilm of the Moonstar" yet? If not, he should get on that.
That was a good question someone raised about half-dwarves. Is there or is there going to be a 3.5e write-up of half-dwarves? What would their abilities be?
Cheers
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'Tis easier to destroy than to create.
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Mournblade
Master of Realmslore
USA
1287 Posts |
Posted - 05 Aug 2005 : 02:48:07
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Originally posted by RAKKIR
Sorry, I'm not really sure who "Red Archer" is. Actually, the phrase "not really sure" is misleading. I don't have a freaking clue.
Rakhir the Red Archer from Michael Moorcock's Elric of Melnibone series. Also Rakhir appeared in alot of the eternal champion novels.
I highly reccomend Michael Moorcock. He is really the FIRST attempt at Dark Fantasy. I think Elric is the first real Anti hero to inhabit our Genre. Is that agreed? Or can someone think of someone older?
Sage?
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 05 Aug 2005 : 02:48:23
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Originally posted by Steven Schend
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Originally posted by The Sage
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Originally posted by Kuje
For the other poster about vampires, do remember that there was a Lawful GOOD vampire in 1e in Lords of Darkness, and there have been one or two other vampires who are good in FR lore. :)
Indeed.
And RAKKIR... while he is LE, recall also Asraf yn Malik el Kahaman yi Manshaka, a vampire committed to serving Khelben and the goals of the Moonstars.
And I'd guarantee that your collective heads would spin if you were to find out exactly what committments/vows Khelben has tying up Asraf's loyalties.....
Steven
Who really ought to go figure out exactly what dirt Khelben holds on each and every NPC in the Realms....because y'all know he does...."to protect you from yourselves, of course..."
Indeed. I imagine Khelben has quite an extensive number of "files" with the "goods" on each NPC in the Realms, not to mentioned every single member of the Moonstars.
The question is... does anyone have anything on him?
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
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Posted - 05 Aug 2005 : 03:58:45
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Originally posted by The Sage
Indeed. I imagine Khelben has quite an extensive number of "files" with the "goods" on each NPC in the Realms, not to mentioned every single member of the Moonstars.
The question is... does anyone have anything on him?
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Faerun overloaded with Half-Xs?!
