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Jamallo Kreen
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Posted - 29 Jul 2005 :  06:09:52  Show Profile  Visit Jamallo Kreen's Homepage Send Jamallo Kreen a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
In the Avatar Trilogy the Ring of Winter is mentioned several times. I have read the Volo and Savage Frontier write-ups of it, but I would like to know, please, in what novels and modules are the quests for, and the finding of, the Ring described in detail. As a slight aside, did Kelemvor, Cyric, and Midnight appear in any products before the Avatar Trilogy? (I have the Hero's Lorebook and Forgotten Realms Atlas, but I think that came out after the trilogy; it's their backgrounds I am asking about.)

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Posted - 29 Jul 2005 :  06:20:43  Show Profile  Visit DDH_101's Homepage Send DDH_101 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
If I remember correctly, one of the novels in the Harper series actually focuses on the Ring of Winter quest. I forgot what book it was called. Perhaps another scribe here at Candlekeep can be of assistance?

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KnightErrantJR
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Posted - 29 Jul 2005 :  11:05:01  Show Profile  Visit KnightErrantJR's Homepage Send KnightErrantJR a Private Message  Reply with Quote
That would be detailed in . . .

The Ring of Winter by James Lowder.
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Wooly Rupert
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quote:
Originally posted by KnightErrantJR

That would be detailed in . . .

The Ring of Winter by James Lowder.



Indeed. 'Twas the fifth book of the Harpers run, as I recall. And it mentioned, in passing, a character Lowder introduced in Crusade.

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Kuje
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Hall of Heroes has thier 1e/2e stats. The sourcebook is confusing because it's a 2e book but it has some 1e classes in it. :)

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Jamallo Kreen
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Posted - 30 Jul 2005 :  06:02:10  Show Profile  Visit Jamallo Kreen's Homepage Send Jamallo Kreen a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by KnightErrantJR

That would be detailed in . . .

The Ring of Winter by James Lowder.


Thanks. My understanding is that The Ring of Winter culminates after the Time of Troubles and only concerns Artus Cimber's quest. What products (if any) deal with the searches which the future gods undertook in search of The Ring of Winter before the ToT?

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KnightErrantJR
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Posted - 30 Jul 2005 :  10:57:38  Show Profile  Visit KnightErrantJR's Homepage Send KnightErrantJR a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I think a lot of the comments of the charactes in the Avatar books was back story for what they had been up to as adventurers, and that James Lowder took that back story and ran with it when he wrote his Harpers novel.
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quote:
Originally posted by KnightErrantJR

I think a lot of the comments of the charactes in the Avatar books was back story for what they had been up to as adventurers, and that James Lowder took that back story and ran with it when he wrote his Harpers novel.



I concur. The only real descriptions of anyone's quest for the Ring are in the novel.

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Jamallo Kreen
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Posted - 30 Jul 2005 :  23:14:10  Show Profile  Visit Jamallo Kreen's Homepage Send Jamallo Kreen a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

quote:
Originally posted by KnightErrantJR

I think a lot of the comments of the charactes in the Avatar books was back story for what they had been up to as adventurers, and that James Lowder took that back story and ran with it when he wrote his Harpers novel.



I concur. The only real descriptions of anyone's quest for the Ring are in the novel.



So it's to The Ring of Winter itself I must turn. Now if I only I had a copy....

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Posted - 30 Jul 2005 :  23:21:45  Show Profile  Visit Faraer's Homepage Send Faraer a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Although the Ring of Winter was originally mentioned in the Old Grey Box:
quote:
Haspur, a seer who dwells in Baldur#146;s Gate, has foretold that a magic of great power, called "The Ring of Winter," will be rediscovered within the year. In trance, he seemed very upset, but gave no further details, and could recall nothing upon reawakening.
Other primary (i.e. not recapping the novel) references are in Cormanthyr and FRQ1.

The Avatar protagonists were created for the Avatar novels/modules.

Edited by - Faraer on 30 Jul 2005 23:23:12
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KnightErrantJR
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Well I'll be dipped . . . sorry about that, apparently it wasn't a backstory comment.
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Thauramarth
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The protagonists of "The Ring of Winter" were given stats in the 2nd Edition Heroes' Lorebook (still available in PDF from WWW.rpgnow.com), and the novel's bad guy was statted in (again 2nd Edition) Vilains' Lorebook (which, at one time, was a free download from the WotC website. The Ring of Winter itself was also described (still 2nd edition) in Heroes' Lorebook (p. 143).

Hope this may be of some help.
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Jamallo Kreen
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Posted - 15 Aug 2005 :  20:28:07  Show Profile  Visit Jamallo Kreen's Homepage Send Jamallo Kreen a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Faraer

Although the Ring of Winter was originally mentioned in the Old Grey Box:
quote:
Haspur, a seer who dwells in Baldur#146;s Gate, has foretold that a magic of great power, called "The Ring of Winter," will be rediscovered within the year. In trance, he seemed very upset, but gave no further details, and could recall nothing upon reawakening.
Other primary (i.e. not recapping the novel) references are in Cormanthyr and FRQ1.

The Avatar protagonists were created for the Avatar novels/modules.


Thanks to ye all. I have found the reference in Cormanthyr and also another in I-forget-where (Volo's Guide to All Things Magical, perhaps? -- a marvellous book).

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The Sage
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VGtATM is the one.

There's also some snippets in the Heroes' Lorebook regarding the ring and Artus Cimber.

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