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ArcticKnight
Learned Scribe
USA
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 Posted - 05 Sep 2002 : 00:47:28
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I figured each month i would start a post about the new novel for the month...to discuss it and all...
i personally havent started it yet, i just bought the new Spellfire, Crown of Fire and Hand of Fire and am going to read Spellfire and Crown of Fire again before reading Hand of Fire, its been YEARS since i read them.
feel free to post your thoughts about the book but lets limit the SPOILERS to minor ones if any....
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Edited by - Alaundo on 21 Apr 2003 21:48:24
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Lord Rad
Great Reader
United Kingdom
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Posted - 05 Sep 2002 : 09:16:27
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Well I doubt ill see Hand of Fire in the stores for quite some time yet as im in the UK. I have only seen Crown of Fire so far but not Spellfire. I do however have both of the original novels and luckily havent read them yet, so Ill definatly want to read the new revised versions as they have extra material. I once started Spellfire as one of my first FR novels many years ago but just couldnt get into Ed Greenwoods style of writing.
Still, i might wait to see if WotC release Shandril's Saga as "normal" size books rather than the oversized ones which are currently out. Why on earth did they do that!?
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Lord Rad
"What? No, I wasn't reading your module. I was just looking at the pictures"
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Solmyr
Seeker
Sweden
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Posted - 06 Sep 2002 : 12:02:54
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The question is, are they going to release them in "normal" book size?
I don't think so, they havent done it with silverfall, stories of the seven sisters. |
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ArcticKnight
Learned Scribe
USA
169 Posts |
Posted - 17 Oct 2002 : 19:09:07
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Am i the only one that feels robbed at the end of this book??? i mean i waited the many years since crown of fire...for THAT??
anyone else feel the same? |
"The man who does not read has little advantage over the man who cannot read."
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Zacas
Learned Scribe
USA
261 Posts |
Posted - 19 Apr 2003 : 17:07:54
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*busts out laughing... and ends up rolling around on the floor* OMG... they made such a funny... and relatively big error... hehe... page 150 of Hand of Fire... they go from having sharantyr leading a horse... to Shandril dropping the reigns of the same horse (cept shandril is still quite a ways away)
i just read over this... and was like "wtf... where did shandril come from"... then busted out laughing realizing the big mistake as it is... |
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Shades
Acolyte
Georgia
39 Posts |
Posted - 19 Apr 2003 : 20:20:26
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| Hand of Fire wasn't that impressive as Ed's other books. Though the end of the novel was a nice twist. |
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Yasraena
Senior Scribe
USA
388 Posts |
Posted - 20 Apr 2003 : 03:12:09
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quote:
Originally posted by ArcticKnight
Am i the only one that feels robbed at the end of this book??? i mean i waited the many years since crown of fire...for THAT??
anyone else feel the same?
I do, AK. The book as a whole was pretty entertaining, but I didn't like the end at all. It felt like Ed was just looking for any way to end the story and happened to pick that particular one. Not a good ending for one of the coolest story concepts in the Realms. Fantasy is supposed to come with happy endings, damnit!(well, at least most of the time) Not like the one that ended this last book! Especially since the both of them were forced into their situations having to deal with all that crap through all three books. And that's what they get for their troubles? What a let down! |
"Nindyn vel'uss malar verin z'klaen tlu kyone ulu naut doera nindel vel'bolen nind malar."
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Zacas
Learned Scribe
USA
261 Posts |
Posted - 20 Apr 2003 : 03:57:31
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somewhere on the site for the wizards whom dwell on the coast... there was a log of the chat with Ed about Hand of Fire... where he explains things... and he said he had the thing in mind for quite some time... that either he had to write the story... or give someone else a chance to write it (which'd fudge it up) so he did it... and ended it that way... as he was planning to have it end somehow that way and he wanted to make sure he did the writing for it instead of some other WoTC writer...
I'd have to see if i can find a link... tho i usually have bad luck searching for things on wizards site... |
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Yasraena
Senior Scribe
USA
388 Posts |
Posted - 20 Apr 2003 : 10:15:52
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That's interesting. I wonder why he'd WANT to end it that way. It's such a bummer ending to three really good books. I REALLY wanted Shan and Narm to finally come out on top, especially after all they went through.
If you happen to find the link, definitely send it along. I'd really like to hear the authors thoughts about that. |
"Nindyn vel'uss malar verin z'klaen tlu kyone ulu naut doera nindel vel'bolen nind malar."
Yasraena T'Sarran
Harper of Silverymoon |
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Zacas
Learned Scribe
USA
261 Posts |
Posted - 20 Apr 2003 : 15:16:58
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| well i can't rind the link... i've searched all over wizards... i can't even find a log of one of his chats... but i know i remember reading it somewhere that either he had to write the book... or risk someone else continuing the storyline and making a mess of what he started... or some such... i can't recall the specifics... |
I am like a superhero, with no powers or motivation.
I have gone to find myself. If I get back before I return, please keep me here.
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Shades
Acolyte
Georgia
39 Posts |
Posted - 20 Apr 2003 : 21:27:19
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| The end was great, finally a book where the hero dies or isn't able to stand up to insurmountable odds. Also it bring's back the saying, "Play with fire and you are gonna get burned". |
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George Krashos
Master of Realmslore
Australia
6666 Posts |
Posted - 21 Apr 2003 : 02:01:00
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I always felt that Shandril was going to end up "out of the way". I thought she'd end up secluded on Evermeet or something like that. The reason for this is that Shandril is a fantastic novel character but an awful gaming character. Her powers (and every player's desire to be a spellfire wielder) make game balance difficult when you are actually playing D&D. Just like everyone wants to play a dual wielding drow, have their elf inherit a moonblade, or be an apprentice to Elminster, spellfire is something that should be left for Epic Level campaigns (which are popular, and justly so, but not my cup of tea). Shandril dead is also easier to deal with re the progression of the FR campaign setting. Now we don't have to worry about trying to explain just why she didn't appear here, here and HERE to combat the evil X. Nice and neat Ed, thanks.
-- George Krashos
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Voronica Whitney-Robinson
Forgotten Realms Author
USA
40 Posts |
Posted - 21 Apr 2003 : 03:29:42
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Hey guys---remember ArcticKnight's warning about posting minor SPOILERS?
Maybe Alaundo can label this thread as having a few major spoilers so that those who have not read the book yet are warned before they view this thread. |
V.
A friend will help you move.
A real friend will help you move a body...
Visit http://www.voronica.com to see what else I've been up to. |
Edited by - Voronica Whitney-Robinson on 21 Apr 2003 05:28:05 |
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Yasraena
Senior Scribe
USA
388 Posts |
Posted - 21 Apr 2003 : 05:53:22
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Well, I was trying to keep them light. Kind of hard when we're talking about the ending of the book, though. 
George: All good reasons for Ed to end the book as he did, but I'm still REALLY bummed he did it that way.  If anyone deserved a happy ending in the Realms, it was those two. |
"Nindyn vel'uss malar verin z'klaen tlu kyone ulu naut doera nindel vel'bolen nind malar."
Yasraena T'Sarran
Harper of Silverymoon |
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Zacas
Learned Scribe
USA
261 Posts |
Posted - 21 Apr 2003 : 19:57:47
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| Hey Voronica.. i dun suppose you remember the chat or such that Ed did talking about why he did the ending he did? or maybe you can ask him to explain it... i can't seem to find the link to the page on Wizards.com that i recall reading where he explained the means behind the end... |
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I have gone to find myself. If I get back before I return, please keep me here.
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Voronica Whitney-Robinson
Forgotten Realms Author
USA
40 Posts |
Posted - 21 Apr 2003 : 23:08:00
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Zacas- I need to catch up with Ed about a few things, so I'll ask him. As I know he's up to his eyeballs in work, it may take a few days for an answer! You know how those Canadians are... |
V.
A friend will help you move.
A real friend will help you move a body...
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Bellua Aeneus Lacerta
Senior Scribe
USA
428 Posts |
Posted - 24 Apr 2003 : 01:07:11
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| Hmmm....V's posting again. Crimson Gold must be coming along well |
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Voronica Whitney-Robinson
Forgotten Realms Author
USA
40 Posts |
Posted - 24 Apr 2003 : 02:14:50
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| V is wrapping up the first draft as we "speak"! |
V.
A friend will help you move.
A real friend will help you move a body...
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Bellua Aeneus Lacerta
Senior Scribe
USA
428 Posts |
Posted - 24 Apr 2003 : 02:30:04
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Eeeeeexcellent |
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Zacas
Learned Scribe
USA
261 Posts |
Posted - 09 May 2003 : 03:46:51
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| Hey voronica, did you get a hold of Ed to ask about Hand of Fire and the reasons behind the ending, for me? |
I am like a superhero, with no powers or motivation.
I have gone to find myself. If I get back before I return, please keep me here.
People like you are the reason people like me are on medication. |
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Voronica Whitney-Robinson
Forgotten Realms Author
USA
40 Posts |
Posted - 09 May 2003 : 04:53:29
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Hey Zacas-
Ed and I have been so busy the last week, him with his projects, and me turning in my first draft for Crimson Gold as well as our day jobs, that we are going to get to catch up next week. As soon as I hear back from him on that, I'll let you know.
But, here is the transcript for the interview I think you were talking about.
http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=books/fr/greenwoodinterview |
V.
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Edited by - Voronica Whitney-Robinson on 09 May 2003 05:17:12 |
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Zacas
Learned Scribe
USA
261 Posts |
Posted - 09 May 2003 : 21:16:10
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| yeah, that was it... for some reason i wasn't able to find it when i searched... and i coulda sworn there was something about how either Wizards was gonna set someone else to the task of writing (maybe it was another book) if he didn't write the book... |
I am like a superhero, with no powers or motivation.
I have gone to find myself. If I get back before I return, please keep me here.
People like you are the reason people like me are on medication. |
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Mythander
Learned Scribe
USA
121 Posts |
Posted - 24 Jul 2003 : 21:06:01
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| Even though I usually will go to bat for Mr. Greenwood. I was extremely disappointed with Hand of Fire, and not just because of the ending which, by the way I thought needed to happen. I felt like his heart was not in the book and that it was written like he just wanted to get it over. I may be mistaken, but that is defiantly the feeling I got reading this book. |
Wow! That has no saving throw written all over it. |
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Faraer
Great Reader
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Posted - 25 Jul 2003 : 00:49:00
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| The log of Ed's September 2002 chat is a dead link at wizards.com, but he says a lot about Hand of Fire there. Ed knew how the story would turn out when he wrote Spellfire. Shandril passes Mystra's test. Ed has future plans for the character. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 25 Jul 2003 : 03:40:34
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That chat was indeed informative. I think I have a copy of that chat Faraer speaks of Mythander. I'll locate it when I get home from my exam today, and email a copy to you.
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Mythander
Learned Scribe
USA
121 Posts |
Posted - 25 Jul 2003 : 16:59:17
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quote:
Originally posted by Sage of Perth
That chat was indeed informative. I think I have a copy of that chat Faraer speaks of Mythander. I'll locate it when I get home from my exam today, and email a copy to you.
Thank You Sage, That would be much appreciated.  |
Wow! That has no saving throw written all over it. |
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