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Alaundo
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Posted - 15 Jun 2005 :  22:41:53  Show Profile  Visit Alaundo's Homepage Send Alaundo a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
Well met

Since mid-afternoon on 15th June, we have been experiencing periodical problems with the Candlekeep Forum, where the following message is issued:

Microsoft JET Database Engine error '80004005'

Cannot open database ''. It may not be a database that your application recognizes, or the file may be corrupt.

/forum/inc_header.asp, line 134


This is temperamental and functionality returns a number of minutes after. We apologise for the inconvenience and are attempting a database rebuild in the near future to hopefully rectify this issue.

Thank ye.


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The Sage
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Thanks for the update Alaundo .

Although, I noticed last night when this occured (for Australians) that Candlekeep was not the only site affected by this database corruption.

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Dargoth
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Posted - 16 Jun 2005 :  01:42:28  Show Profile  Visit Dargoth's Homepage Send Dargoth a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Im pretty sure that same errorhas poped up on Candlekeep a couple of times

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Posted - 16 Jun 2005 :  08:14:37  Show Profile  Visit Alaundo's Homepage Send Alaundo a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by The Sage

Thanks for the update Alaundo .

Although, I noticed last night when this occured (for Australians) that Candlekeep was not the only site affected by this database corruption.




Well met

Hmmmm, i'd be interested to hear more on this matter, Sage, if ye could perhaps contact me with more details.

Previous problems, if ye recall a couple of months back, were down to Microsoft Security Patches which had been installed on various web servers and later to be found to cause a problem to a point of being backed out. I'm wondering if mayhaps something has changed recently with the Jet DB engine or some such, if this is indeed occuring elsewhere.

Thank ye.

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Posted - 16 Jun 2005 :  11:49:57  Show Profile  Visit SiriusBlack's Homepage Send SiriusBlack a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Alaundo
This is temperamental and functionality returns a number of minutes after. We apologise for the inconvenience and are attempting a database rebuild in the near future to hopefully rectify this issue.



Hang in there Alaundo and know your site still functions better than many commercial sites.
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Posted - 16 Jun 2005 :  12:33:17  Show Profile  Visit Alaundo's Homepage Send Alaundo a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by SiriusBlack

quote:
Originally posted by Alaundo
This is temperamental and functionality returns a number of minutes after. We apologise for the inconvenience and are attempting a database rebuild in the near future to hopefully rectify this issue.



Hang in there Alaundo and know your site still functions better than many commercial sites.



Well met

Thank ye, Sirius Thy words are comforting. I just hate to inconvenience ye all with periods of unavailability and will strive to get this issue sorted (not wanting to temp fate, but it appears to be working fine so far today)

::looks up as the sky darkens and booming thunder is heard in the distance::

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Posted - 16 Jun 2005 :  12:34:50  Show Profile  Visit SiriusBlack's Homepage Send SiriusBlack a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Alaundo
::looks up as the sky darkens and booming thunder is heard in the distance::



Is it that bad yet? Do the Gods have a list?

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Chosen of Moradin
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Posted - 16 Jun 2005 :  13:29:01  Show Profile  Visit Chosen of Moradin's Homepage Send Chosen of Moradin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I suffer with the problem yesterday, too. But now, everything is right. Some prayers for Oghma and Deneir put the tomes in order again...

Chosen of Moradin, spoting some suspects dark-clothed men carrying the simbol of Talos walking near of the keep, and wondering if there is some correlation with the previows problems...

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Posted - 16 Jun 2005 :  13:33:30  Show Profile  Visit Shadovar's Homepage Send Shadovar a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I suffered this problem for the whole day long yesterday. I am glad that the forum is restored to working order.

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Forge
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Posted - 16 Jun 2005 :  14:18:35  Show Profile  Visit Forge's Homepage Send Forge a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Could it have something to do with the gnomes you hired to compile the scrolls? You KNOW how they get...

.. no, wait, if it was the gnomes you would have gotten a 5-page thesis on the problem not merely an error message.
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The Sage
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Posted - 16 Jun 2005 :  14:25:43  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Alaundo

quote:
Originally posted by SiriusBlack

quote:
Originally posted by Alaundo
This is temperamental and functionality returns a number of minutes after. We apologise for the inconvenience and are attempting a database rebuild in the near future to hopefully rectify this issue.



Hang in there Alaundo and know your site still functions better than many commercial sites.



Well met

Thank ye, Sirius Thy words are comforting. I just hate to inconvenience ye all with periods of unavailability and will strive to get this issue sorted (not wanting to temp fate, but it appears to be working fine so far today)

::looks up as the sky darkens and booming thunder is heard in the distance::

Big Al, as we discussed in private, I should have some further information on what I was talking about earlier today. I've contacted a few of my sources through work and one has provided me with some rather intriguing details. I'll try to make it available for you tomorrow, or at the very latest, sometime over the weekend .

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Alaundo
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Posted - 16 Jun 2005 :  15:12:36  Show Profile  Visit Alaundo's Homepage Send Alaundo a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Forge

Could it have something to do with the gnomes you hired to compile the scrolls? You KNOW how they get...

.. no, wait, if it was the gnomes you would have gotten a 5-page thesis on the problem not merely an error message.



Quite

quote:
]Originally posted by The Sage

Big Al, as we discussed in private, I should have some further information on what I was talking about earlier today. I've contacted a few of my sources through work and one has provided me with some rather intriguing details. I'll try to make it available for you tomorrow, or at the very latest, sometime over the weekend


Many thanks, Sage. That certainly sounds interesting. I'll look forward it

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LordAnki
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Posted - 16 Jun 2005 :  17:11:47  Show Profile  Visit LordAnki's Homepage Send LordAnki a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Well it is being caused by the faultiness in the ASP database. Use MySQL and php! Much better and easier than asp. For forum i would use phpBB or XMB.

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The Sage
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Posted - 17 Jun 2005 :  02:48:19  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by LordAnki

Well it is being caused by the faultiness in the ASP database. Use MySQL and php! Much better and easier than asp. For forum i would use phpBB or XMB.
That's not always the case though. And for phpBB, we can often have just as much server or database trouble.

The true fact here is that no database is ever totally secure or free from the occasional "mephit in the works" especially on the net. There are other safeguards however, and while not always 100%, they can work to minimise the amount of time a forum or another large informational database is brought down because of a failure. These safeguards are what I'm currently trying to track down for Alaundo so that he can use them here at Candlekeep.

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VEDSICA
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Posted - 17 Jun 2005 :  17:27:29  Show Profile  Visit VEDSICA's Homepage Send VEDSICA a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hey I had trouble getting into the forums today.Was there a problem today,or did I step through the wrong portal???????

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Alaundo
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Posted - 17 Jun 2005 :  22:50:03  Show Profile  Visit Alaundo's Homepage Send Alaundo a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by VEDSICA

Hey I had trouble getting into the forums today.Was there a problem today,or did I step through the wrong portal???????



Well met

Apologies, VEDSICA. The issue did indeed occur briefly today mid-afternoon GMT. However, as far as i'm aware, this one moment is the only time today.

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The Sage
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quote:
Originally posted by Alaundo

quote:
Originally posted by VEDSICA

Hey I had trouble getting into the forums today.Was there a problem today,or did I step through the wrong portal???????



Well met

Apologies, VEDSICA. The issue did indeed occur briefly today mid-afternoon GMT. However, as far as i'm aware, this one moment is the only time today.

Strange that. I could access the forums, but I couldn't post any scrolls or reply to them either ...

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VEDSICA
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Posted - 18 Jun 2005 :  14:20:36  Show Profile  Visit VEDSICA's Homepage Send VEDSICA a Private Message  Reply with Quote
No appologies necessary Alaundo.Mayhap there be some strange magics afoot here at Candlekeep

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Wooly Rupert
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I've had to log in to my account twice in the last 24 hours... Normally, I go weeks between log-ins. Is this bit of weirdness on my end, or is it related to the issues this scroll is about?

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Alaundo
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Posted - 18 Jun 2005 :  18:48:26  Show Profile  Visit Alaundo's Homepage Send Alaundo a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

I've had to log in to my account twice in the last 24 hours... Normally, I go weeks between log-ins. Is this bit of weirdness on my end, or is it related to the issues this scroll is about?



Well met

I don't expect that to be related, Wooly. That functionality is controlled via cookies stored locally on thy machine.

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SiriusBlack
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quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

I've had to log in to my account twice in the last 24 hours... Normally, I go weeks between log-ins. Is this bit of weirdness on my end, or is it related to the issues this scroll is about?



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Wooly Rupert
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quote:
Originally posted by SiriusBlack

quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

I've had to log in to my account twice in the last 24 hours... Normally, I go weeks between log-ins. Is this bit of weirdness on my end, or is it related to the issues this scroll is about?



It's just you....Candlekeep's Problem Child.



I think this the perfect opportunity to break out my favorite SB quote:

quote:
Originally posted by SiriusBlack

Regardless, I'm happy in my deluded state


Nyah!

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SiriusBlack
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quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
I think this the perfect opportunity to break out my favorite SB quote:

quote:
Originally posted by SiriusBlack

Regardless, I'm happy in my deluded state


Nyah!



If we get custom titles one day, I'll make you happy and use that one

Has anyone had any problems this weekend with the forum? I've been error free.
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The Sage
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quote:
Originally posted by SiriusBlack

quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
I think this the perfect opportunity to break out my favorite SB quote:

quote:
Originally posted by SiriusBlack

Regardless, I'm happy in my deluded state


Nyah!



If we get custom titles one day, I'll make you happy and use that one

Has anyone had any problems this weekend with the forum? I've been error free.

I've also had no problems with Candlekeep over the last 48 hours. However, I noticed that one of the sites affected by the first database failure has still not been reactivated.

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The Sage
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quote:
Originally posted by Alaundo

quote:
]Originally posted by The Sage

Big Al, as we discussed in private, I should have some further information on what I was talking about earlier today. I've contacted a few of my sources through work and one has provided me with some rather intriguing details. I'll try to make it available for you tomorrow, or at the very latest, sometime over the weekend


Many thanks, Sage. That certainly sounds interesting. I'll look forward it
I'll have that module by tomorrow Big Al.

It won't take much to integrate it into the forum database system itself, so you won't need to worry about too much tinkering around, although the designers recommend that you temporarily take the forums offline when you install it.

There'll be instructions with the module, so you shouldn't have too much difficultly. If you have any problems, I'll be happy to assist in the installation process. I'll tell you more when I actually send you the program .

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Alaundo
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Posted - 21 Jun 2005 :  11:11:22  Show Profile  Visit Alaundo's Homepage Send Alaundo a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by The Sage

quote:
Originally posted by Alaundo

quote:
]Originally posted by The Sage

Big Al, as we discussed in private, I should have some further information on what I was talking about earlier today. I've contacted a few of my sources through work and one has provided me with some rather intriguing details. I'll try to make it available for you tomorrow, or at the very latest, sometime over the weekend


Many thanks, Sage. That certainly sounds interesting. I'll look forward it
I'll have that module by tomorrow Big Al.

It won't take much to integrate it into the forum database system itself, so you won't need to worry about too much tinkering around, although the designers recommend that you temporarily take the forums offline when you install it.

There'll be instructions with the module, so you shouldn't have too much difficultly. If you have any problems, I'll be happy to assist in the installation process. I'll tell you more when I actually send you the program .




Well met

Thank ye, Sage. This is much appreciated. Ill look forward to reading more on this and receiving thy scroll.

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The Sage
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quote:
Originally posted by Alaundo

Well met

Thank ye, Sage. This is much appreciated. Ill look forward to reading more on this and receiving thy scroll.

Not a problem Big Al .

As it happens, I'm actually thinking about using this new program myself, since I have a large database of work-related projects on the web.

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Well met Alaundo,
I don't know what magic you have used, but it seems to have run off all of the mephits. Thank you for all of your hard work in restoring access to the archives.


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The Sage
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It's the fire and steam mephits you have to watch out for... The potential damage they can both cause to the numerous scrolls and tomes contained within these halls is enough to warrant the occasional "mephit hunt".

Fortunately all types of mephits seem to be afraid of Furry Hamsters .

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quote:
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Fortunately all types of mephits seem to be afraid of Furry Hamsters .




As well they should be! Fire-breathing Phase Doppleganger Giant Space Hamsters, in particular, are a fearsome lot.

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Chosen of Moradin
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quote:
It's the fire and steam mephits you have to watch out for... The potential damage they can both cause to the numerous scrolls and tomes contained within these halls is enough to warrant the occasional "mephit hunt".


Heh! Next time that the mephits run wild, put them all in chains and send the fire ones to my forges (and the steams to my bath room)!!!


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