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Dargoth
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Posted - 17 May 2005 :  23:07:00  Show Profile  Visit Dargoth's Homepage Send Dargoth a Private Message  Reply with Quote
By the way theres appears to be an error in the Ityak-Ortheel write up the history section declares that the last time it appeared was in the Moonshae islands in 1365. This is incorrect as it appeared on Evermeet in 1371 (See Elaine Cunninghams novel Evermeet)

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SiriusBlack
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Posted - 18 May 2005 :  02:57:57  Show Profile  Visit SiriusBlack's Homepage Send SiriusBlack a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by The Sage
Is that a recent trend SB, or something that you and your players have always maintained?



I'd say for myself it started with 3rd edition. Back in my early days, I would buy anything that had Realms on it.
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SiriusBlack
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Posted - 18 May 2005 :  02:59:58  Show Profile  Visit SiriusBlack's Homepage Send SiriusBlack a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Dargoth

By the way theres appears to be an error in the Ityak-Ortheel write up the history section declares that the last time it appeared was in the Moonshae islands in 1365. This is incorrect as it appeared on Evermeet in 1371 (See Elaine Cunninghams novel Evermeet)



Oy! That is a big error. And here's a question...is that appearance that you mentioned on the Moonshaes the one in which King Zaor's twin sons disappeared?

Edited by - SiriusBlack on 18 May 2005 03:01:01
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George Krashos
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Posted - 18 May 2005 :  03:40:26  Show Profile Send George Krashos a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Yep, I think that's the one. It's also mentioned in the Elf Eater's write-up in Powers & Pantheons, no?

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Dargoth
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Posted - 18 May 2005 :  05:24:26  Show Profile  Visit Dargoth's Homepage Send Dargoth a Private Message  Reply with Quote
From last years crop I wasnt real keen on Serpent Kingdoms

For 2 Reasons

1) I dont use scallykind that much in my campaigns

2) I didnt like how the regions they covered where spread out all over the contient (Which was further agrivated by WOTC not including any maps in Serpents Kingdoms)

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Gray Richardson
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Posted - 18 May 2005 :  07:44:18  Show Profile  Visit Gray Richardson's Homepage Send Gray Richardson a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I'm stunned! Serpent Kingdoms was my favorite book from last year! I am still mining that book for ideas and discovering neat little bits of Realmslore.

I loved the Players Guide to Faerun too, of course, for all the planar information. But Serpent Kingdoms was really tops in my book for 2004 for all the great lore to be found within!

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Gray Richardson
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Posted - 18 May 2005 :  08:07:42  Show Profile  Visit Gray Richardson's Homepage Send Gray Richardson a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hey, I just thought of something! There have only ever been 3 FR sourcebooks published each year since 2001.

This year is the first year they are actually publishing 4 FR books for us!

So Dargoth, maybe you could think of Champions of Ruin and Champions of Valor together as a sigle 314 page book for $59.90. Does that appease your desire for higher page count if even for a higher price?

So I would humbly offer that WotC is actually giving us more pages of 3E Realmslore (albeit for more money of course) this year than they have in any previous year.

And that doesn't even count the FR adventures that they are publishing on top of that. Even more pages!

In fact I would argue that WotC has been better to FR fans this year than they have ever been before!
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The Sage
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Posted - 18 May 2005 :  08:12:59  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Gray Richardson

I'm stunned! Serpent Kingdoms was my favorite book from last year! I am still mining that book for ideas and discovering neat little bits of Realmslore.

I loved the Players Guide to Faerun too, of course, for all the planar information. But Serpent Kingdoms was really tops in my book for 2004 for all the great lore to be found within!
I would say that also. Serpent Kingdoms is definitely a favorite for me, as is the Shining South tome. These were the big FR hits for 2004 for me. But SK was the true winner of the pair, and it has completely revitalised my ideas about scalyfolk in the Realms.

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Monsoon28
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Posted - 25 May 2005 :  09:35:34  Show Profile  Visit Monsoon28's Homepage Send Monsoon28 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I have to agree Shining South and Serpent Kingdoms were great, so much for me to work with and since I love Gold Dwarves, more lore for me to use.

That said I really wanted Champions of Ruin but now I'm not so sure, getting only 157 pages for what I use to get 194 is harder for me to swallow than a price increase. You say $32.95 is a psychological breaking point? Try Canada we've been dropping way more than that for ages. Now that I'm in Europe I'm still dropping 35 euros for a book. What I see is I'm paying the same price for a book filled with PrC's & Feats some of these reprints from other books, and important realmslore being left out. I mean how can you NOT have info on the Zhentarim? Or the war between Cyrists and Banites?

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Edited by - Monsoon28 on 25 May 2005 09:39:39
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warlockco
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Posted - 25 May 2005 :  09:37:58  Show Profile  Visit warlockco's Homepage Send warlockco a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by The Sage

quote:
Originally posted by Gray Richardson

I'm stunned! Serpent Kingdoms was my favorite book from last year! I am still mining that book for ideas and discovering neat little bits of Realmslore.

I loved the Players Guide to Faerun too, of course, for all the planar information. But Serpent Kingdoms was really tops in my book for 2004 for all the great lore to be found within!
I would say that also. Serpent Kingdoms is definitely a favorite for me, as is the Shining South tome. These were the big FR hits for 2004 for me. But SK was the true winner of the pair, and it has completely revitalised my ideas about scalyfolk in the Realms.




I have to agree with that. And Underdark is another one of the 3E books that I like.

I have always loved the Drow since I first read about them in the 1E Unearthed Arcana. My first 4 books were the Player's Handbook, Dungeon Master's Guide, Monster Manual, and Uearthed Arcana for 1st Edition.
This was before I even knew about them in the Fiend Folio or even heard of the Vault of the Drow.

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Edited by - warlockco on 25 May 2005 09:40:57
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