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SteelGeneral
Acolyte

USA
3 Posts

Posted - 25 Aug 2005 :  20:30:08  Show Profile  Visit SteelGeneral's Homepage Send SteelGeneral a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I enjoy playing Druids the most, many of my favorite characters were druids. Next would probably be Fighters/Rangers, then rogues.
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Lord Desolation
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USA
27 Posts

Posted - 26 Aug 2005 :  22:19:30  Show Profile  Visit Lord Desolation's Homepage Send Lord Desolation a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I know that everyone wants to be a caster of some sort but you all know that a wizard will always need a good fighter to back them up while there casting. Because you may be the most powerful spell caster in the world but that doesnt meen your to good for a dagger in your back or a goblin arrow sprouting from your chest.

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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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Posted - 26 Aug 2005 :  23:57:44  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Lord Desolation

I know that everyone wants to be a caster of some sort but you all know that a wizard will always need a good fighter to back them up while there casting. Because you may be the most powerful spell caster in the world but that doesnt meen your to good for a dagger in your back or a goblin arrow sprouting from your chest.



Yeah, but it all balances out... The best fighter in the world can't do much if a wizard is happily teleporting around, blasting him with lightning bolts, and then showing up 500 yards away in the opposite direction.

And both would be lost if they blunder into a deadly trap that a good thief would have found, or if they get seriously wounded and don't have a cleric to heal them.

So it all balances.

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Vangelor
Learned Scribe

USA
183 Posts

Posted - 06 Dec 2005 :  08:26:28  Show Profile Send Vangelor a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Bard. All around good support for any party. And a bard is not necessarily at a loss in combat. A bard makes a lousy meat-shield, but good back-up. A little stealth, a little steel, a little magic - bards do it all. And look good, doing it!
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Crennen FaerieBane
Master of Realmslore

USA
1378 Posts

Posted - 06 Dec 2005 :  14:40:41  Show Profile Send Crennen FaerieBane a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The hardest thing about picking the best class is the fact that all classes need each other to really be good. A fighter is only good against the physical threats, mage v. mage, etc. That's why I think the party system is unique.

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Vangelor
Learned Scribe

USA
183 Posts

Posted - 06 Dec 2005 :  23:59:34  Show Profile Send Vangelor a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Ah, but see... if you don't have a party with you, you need to be able to do a little of everything. That and I am terribly indecisive. So as an all-around generalist, bard works really well for me.

I do agree that a diverse party can take on a lot more than one bard alone, however. Certainly.
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Chosen of Bane
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USA
552 Posts

Posted - 07 Dec 2005 :  01:11:51  Show Profile  Visit Chosen of Bane's Homepage Send Chosen of Bane a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I agree with the statement that it all balances out. However, I feel that the class that is the easiest to due without is the Rogue, assuming you have everything else.

Fighters are very important for dealing big damage and fighting things with a high spell resistance.

Clerics and Wizards are absolutely a must (Sorc and Druid count as the same for this argument).

A rogue is useful, don't get me wrong. But I think a lot of the Rogues abilities can be duplicated by a creative caster or couple of casters.

Need to sneak up on someone....Silence spell.
Need to open a lock....Knock Spell.
Need to do some scouting/detective work....Divination spells.
Need to get through a trapped door....Fighter opens, cleric heals him. Or dispel magic if the door is magically trapped.

And again, I'm not short changing the rogue, it's a great class. But if you have to go without one of the 4 major builds, the rogue is the easiest to deal without in my opinion.
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Khaa
Seeker

USA
80 Posts

Posted - 07 Dec 2005 :  13:27:29  Show Profile  Visit Khaa's Homepage Send Khaa a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Woohoo! I go for the palidan's. Who can go wrong with a do good fanatic? I remember when I killed my best friend because he relocated a few items. He didnt like that either. Neither did the others when i insisted we burn all his stuff and bury the ashes...

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RedStrike
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32 Posts

Posted - 07 Dec 2005 :  13:43:17  Show Profile  Visit RedStrike's Homepage Send RedStrike a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Generally, I would prefer a balance of melee and magic in my PC, so as to handle most situations with some moderate ease. I would say that I enjoy the wizard class most, for sometimes, big baddies needs magic to be dealt with. A melee class, to me would be a must, for most PCs are often pressed into melee fights in my experience and it often pays to have a PC that is a fighter.

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Chosen of Moradin
Master of Realmslore

Brazil
1120 Posts

Posted - 07 Dec 2005 :  14:09:53  Show Profile  Visit Chosen of Moradin's Homepage Send Chosen of Moradin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
My vote goes to wizard! I generally play the "wise guy with the pile of tomes"

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scererar
Master of Realmslore

USA
1618 Posts

Posted - 08 Dec 2005 :  05:25:17  Show Profile Send scererar a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Rogue is the way to be. A little multi-classing with sorcerer and you have it made
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader

USA
7106 Posts

Posted - 10 Dec 2005 :  00:15:38  Show Profile  Visit Rinonalyrna Fathomlin's Homepage Send Rinonalyrna Fathomlin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I picked cleric, but it's really hard to choose. The only class I'm really indifferent towards is monks. I like rogues, but I always mix them with something else.

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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High

Australia
31799 Posts

Posted - 10 Dec 2005 :  00:37:21  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Why are you indifferent toward monks Rinonalyrna?

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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
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7106 Posts

Posted - 10 Dec 2005 :  01:00:40  Show Profile  Visit Rinonalyrna Fathomlin's Homepage Send Rinonalyrna Fathomlin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by The Sage

Why are you indifferent toward monks Rinonalyrna?




I'm just "eh" about them. No great like or dislike, just neutrality. I haven't felt a great desire to make a monk yet. That, and they sometimes come across as too "oriental" for my tastes (for Faerun anyway), even though they are supposed to fit any setting.

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Faraer
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Posted - 10 Dec 2005 :  02:14:11  Show Profile  Visit Faraer's Homepage Send Faraer a Private Message  Reply with Quote
For the Realms, I go for ranger followed by mage.

The monk class is just a bad fit in standard (Western) D&D and the Realms: it was originally inspired by the David Carradine character in Kung Fu, and Gygax later wished he'd not included it in the core AD&D books (along with the psionics and weapons vs armour rules, among others). Fighting monks in the Realms were few indeed until the 3E authors forced them in. Poor Shaunil Tharm.

Edited by - Faraer on 10 Dec 2005 02:18:44
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Thelonius
Senior Scribe

Spain
731 Posts

Posted - 10 Dec 2005 :  10:11:09  Show Profile Send Thelonius a Private Message  Reply with Quote
We could do this same thread with the Prestige classes too, but I think There are more than the ones shown in Neverwinter Nights...

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Sapientia sola libertas est
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Kajehase
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Sweden
2104 Posts

Posted - 10 Dec 2005 :  15:46:13  Show Profile Send Kajehase a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Just a few more, yes

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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High

Australia
31799 Posts

Posted - 11 Dec 2005 :  01:38:36  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Thelonius

We could do this same thread with the Prestige classes too...

There are already a number of scrolls dealing with this topic. If you're interested, perhaps you should search through the archives and take a look... .

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The Cardinal
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Canada
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Posted - 11 Dec 2005 :  05:07:35  Show Profile  Visit The Cardinal's Homepage Send The Cardinal a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Our First choice is a Bard since they kinda go wherever, not really skilled at anything in particular but meander around collecting bit here and pieces there. A second would actually have to be a Monk, but built and Played in such a fashion to be 'westernized' (I believe this topic has been discussed previously, a year or more ago ) IF, we could choose a new second Monk would fall to third and Archivist would take the Lead from Heroes of Horror (it may even topple a Bard). Knowledge, afterall, Is Power.


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Halcyon
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11 Posts

Posted - 12 Dec 2005 :  00:40:51  Show Profile  Visit Halcyon's Homepage Send Halcyon a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Usually first Wizard then followed by a fighter or rogue class, hard to say which is my favorite class, currently still prefer wizard but every class had its usefulness in particular situations which requires the skills of a particular class.
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Hoondatha
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USA
2450 Posts

Posted - 12 Dec 2005 :  01:15:34  Show Profile  Visit Hoondatha's Homepage Send Hoondatha a Private Message  Reply with Quote
It's not a core class, but I recently become enamored with the Soulknife class. I love the fact that you can walk into any situation, look completely unarmed and innocent, and then unleash all kinds of hell. Very fun. I had a fighter back in 2e who did the same thing, he had a sword -1 cursed that he would leave outside of town, content in the knowledge that whenever a fight started it would appear in his hand.

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Sigh... And now 4e as well.
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Edain Shadowstar
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455 Posts

Posted - 12 Dec 2005 :  02:53:30  Show Profile  Visit Edain Shadowstar's Homepage Send Edain Shadowstar a Private Message  Reply with Quote
For me it has always been Wizard before any other class. I guess I have always just been drawn to the idea of disintegrating my enemies and those sort of things. Calling down balls of fire, shooting bolts of lightning, illusions, polymorphs, teleportation, divinations...the fun just does not end. And if all else fails I can whip out the old Tenser's Transformation and just blugeon some stuff. Ahhh...the options, so many options.

Edain Shadowstar
Archwizard of Rel Astra and Waterdeep


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Edited by - Edain Shadowstar on 12 Dec 2005 02:54:45
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Captain Binkle
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1 Posts

Posted - 12 Dec 2005 :  20:41:31  Show Profile  Visit Captain Binkle's Homepage Send Captain Binkle a Private Message  Reply with Quote
All classes are equally good, but I always end up playing a rogue/thief.

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"Was that supposed to happen?" the fighter asked.
"Well, yes and no," came the mage's reply.
~Conversation during the Time of Troubles.

"A fiendish gnoll stands with an arrow cocked across a 60' x 45' room. He smiles wickedly was he takes aim. What do you do?" the DM smiles, waiting for a reply.
"I charge the foul creature!" says the paladin.
"Roll 5 reflex save, then 2 fort saves," the DM chuckled.
~actual gameplay.
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subnetbass1
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USA
1 Posts

Posted - 16 Feb 2006 :  03:06:24  Show Profile  Visit subnetbass1's Homepage Send subnetbass1 a Private Message  Reply with Quote


Having played several over time, it is hard to say really. I voted for Wizard, however, that is my current build and that's what is always the best.
-been Paladin
-been Ranger
-been Warlock
-been ------
I am very partial to my Wizard right now.

-Subnetbass1
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VonRaventheDaring
Learned Scribe

USA
197 Posts

Posted - 23 Mar 2006 :  07:55:37  Show Profile  Visit VonRaventheDaring's Homepage Send VonRaventheDaring a Private Message  Reply with Quote
You know you should add the psion to the poll there. Just a Thought!

"Develop the latent abilities within you for that is your power alone. Psionics is the ultimate art of magic and you are its practitioner. Through lifelong dedication, strive to unite your will with your physical form to become one. Only through the unrestrained union of one’s mind and body can the magic of psionics truly be mastered. Throw off the yoke of any who would impose tyranny upon you. Likewise, do not ever force another to submit to your will. Free your mind, free yourself and you have only just begun the path to true psionic mastery. Free others, open their minds to the Invisible Art, and you will show them way to Auppenser."
---Dogma of the Church of Auppenser
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Dansan
Acolyte

Netherlands
6 Posts

Posted - 23 Mar 2006 :  11:18:00  Show Profile  Visit Dansan's Homepage Send Dansan a Private Message  Reply with Quote
A rather difficult question, actually, as I like most classes for a variety of reasons. I picked Druid, since that was my first character and I've always had a thing for nature magic and shapeshifting. Druid's aren't great in any specific role, and often are at a disadvantage in a dungeon, but they have my preference. That said, I love a good Fighter/Rogue or capable wizard.
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Ergdusch
Master of Realmslore

Germany
1720 Posts

Posted - 29 Jun 2006 :  12:23:12  Show Profile Send Ergdusch a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I picked the Monk! That is such a cool character type where you have improvement every single level. But playing a decent cleric, ranger or rogue aka thief is surely lots of fun too.

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Sian
Senior Scribe

Denmark
596 Posts

Posted - 29 Jun 2006 :  16:31:03  Show Profile  Visit Sian's Homepage Send Sian a Private Message  Reply with Quote
a charismabased rouge :)

what happened to the queen? she's much more hysterical than usual
She's a women, it happens once a month
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idan_mor
Acolyte

Israel
6 Posts

Posted - 29 Aug 2006 :  16:08:47  Show Profile  Visit idan_mor's Homepage Send idan_mor a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I usually wont connect with ranger or druid as my pc. Always seems to die much too quickly.
To Choose one however its quite hard. And My choice was narrowed to fighter sorcerer or paladin. Since I like my Unfirendly foes well done The Sorcerer takes this match. Nothing like the smell of sulfur and scorched Kobold on a cold spring morning.
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Lord Nemes
Seeker

Canada
58 Posts

Posted - 30 Aug 2006 :  01:31:06  Show Profile  Visit Lord Nemes's Homepage Send Lord Nemes a Private Message  Reply with Quote
My favorite is rogue with cleric second. A lot of class can be realy interresting to play if the character has a goog background and a defined personality, not just the stats...
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