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zemd
Master of Realmslore
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 Posted - 20 May 2003 : 18:13:13
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 29 May 2003 : 12:30:29
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For several weeks now I have had the whole collection of Elric novels, sitting on my shelves, but as yet I have made no attempt to read them. But after seeing the absolute passion that Mournblade has for these books, makes me think that there must be something great about them, so I guess I have some reading to do.
I have two questions though before I finish. Mournblade, do you have a particular favorite?, and which book is the best book of the series to start with?.
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Mournblade
Master of Realmslore
USA
1287 Posts |
Posted - 30 May 2003 : 05:15:43
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Originally posted by Sage of Perth
For several weeks now I have had the whole collection of Elric novels, sitting on my shelves, but as yet I have made no attempt to read them. But after seeing the absolute passion that Mournblade has for these books, makes me think that there must be something great about them, so I guess I have some reading to do.
I have two questions though before I finish. Mournblade, do you have a particular favorite?, and which book is the best book of the series to start with?.
Sage you SHOULD read them in order if at all possible, though it is not entirely necessary. I take that back, actually it is a REAL good idea to read them in order. If you have trouble getting them over on the west coast of oz, let me know I may be able to send you some, I have LOTS of extra copies...Don't worry I send stuff to your east coast brethren all the time. My friend Matt is a cop in Sydney. Met him while backpacking Ireland.
1) ELRIC OF MELNIBONE (This at least should be the FIRST one you read, you get to understand the character well)
2) SAILOR ON THE SEAS OF FATE
3) WEIRD OF THE WHITE WOLF
4) THE VANISHING TOWER
5) BANE OF THE BLACK SWORD
6) STORMBRINGER (THis is probably my favourite)
These are the core Elric books. There are others he has written (fortress of the black pearl) (REVENGE OF THE ROSE) and Elric at the end of time---Probably my LEAST favourite. Michael Moorcock just wrote the latest Elric Book about a year ago, and it has to do with Elric fighting the Nazis. He has a mass multiverse concept which I love. The 6 books I listed above, all happen in sequence, and they are the SAGA of ELRIC. The other books are branches off of the saga that Due to the space/time concepts moorcock has, does not necessarily take place before after or during the saga. A must is to read the six books of the SAGA, if you like then go on to the others, though I love REVENGE of the ROSE.
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Bookwyrm
Great Reader
USA
4740 Posts |
Posted - 30 May 2003 : 05:33:44
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Bookwyrm copies the titles onto a fresh piece of parchment, blows on the ink to dry it, then tucks the list into a pocket.
I'll have to look into that.  |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 30 May 2003 : 07:21:27
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Thanks for that Mournblade, and I appreciate the offer of help, but looking over the list you posted, I realise I have all the titles listed. I guess I will start with ELRIC OF MELNIBONE, then onto the next. I have a pretty easy weekend coming (first time in a long time), so that will probably be the best time to start.
Good learning...
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Mournblade
Master of Realmslore
USA
1287 Posts |
Posted - 30 May 2003 : 22:00:40
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No worries! And may you enjoy your dance with Chaos!
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Bookwyrm
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 31 May 2003 : 03:05:05
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Bookwyrm wonders why Alaundo hasn't come in yet to hit them all with his glare-attack. Not that he's complaining. . . .
However, just in case, the dragon-mage sits down at his desk and pretends to be very, very busy.
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Brynweir
Senior Scribe
USA
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Posted - 31 May 2003 : 05:15:01
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I believe it is better to play a role that is far from yourself. Someone said in the postings that it helps you get away from your ordinary life. As some of you can see from my other postings, I really enjoy having characters who can DO what I can only contemplate.
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Anyone who likes to read something that's really dark and gritty and completely awesome ought to read The Night Angel Trilogy by Brent Weeks. You can check out a little taste at www.BrentWeeks.com I should probably warn you, though, that it is definitely not PG-13 :-D
He also started a new Trilogy with Black Prism, which may even surpass the Night Angel Trilogy in its awesomeness.
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Alaundo
Head Moderator
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Posted - 31 May 2003 : 09:39:59
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Originally posted by Bookwyrm
Bookwyrm wonders why Alaundo hasn't come in yet to hit them all with his glare-attack. Not that he's complaining. . . .
However, just in case, the dragon-mage sits down at his desk and pretends to be very, very busy.
<-- glasses of gaze-deflection ()
::grunt, snort::
What? Eh? oh....er..... ::yawn:: ahem, uh...er yay, well put Brynweir, good to see the topic continuing on this scroll
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Elric of Melnibone, eh? Hmmmmm, cant seem to find him down here in the Faerun census! Most odd !?! |
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Mournblade
Master of Realmslore
USA
1287 Posts |
Posted - 31 May 2003 : 17:04:22
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When I first started role playing I loved the RANGER more than ANYTHING. I think that is because that is what I most wanted to be in real life. Ranger is still one of my favourite classes, and my greatest character is a pure ranger (now since converted to 3e). As time passed on I got more interested in the magic aspect. I might like to say I play wizards because they are unlike me, but in retrospect, they spend as much time poring over books as I do, and arguing theory as I do. Most of the mages I play all have a combat aspect, what I like to call a battle mage (from the Warhammer fantasy roleplay battle-magic). Currently my favourite class has to be the fighter/mage combination in any of its forms. I guess maybe I see the fighter mage most like me. In the LARP games I play I play a Fighter/Warlock (master mage), but he has an affinity for druids and nature. In the world, the Lady of Chaos is where the Warlocks get their power from, (They Used to get them from beings called Heirarchs. Hint of what they are... The leader was named BASMODEUS). Well the lady of chaos calls my character her Tree-hugger. So I guess this larp character is the classes I love (fighter/mage) with some of the roleplaying of a ranger or druid (I can NEVER escape this, I am a complete anti-corporate hound, and Conservation advocate (Don't even get me started on WOlf recovery). Just so nobody thinks I am a nut case I am completely opposed to PETA. They are the WORST thing to happen to animal rights since the animals evolved...
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Bookwyrm
Great Reader
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Posted - 01 Jun 2003 : 02:43:07
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| Basmodeus? Sounds familiar, but I can't place it. Obviously there's the 'deus' ending to it, but I don't know what it means with the rest. I can't find it in my mythology books either. I'm probably just not seeing anything. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31774 Posts |
Posted - 01 Jun 2003 : 08:34:59
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I agree with you Bookwyrm, Basmodeus does indeed sound familiar, and after looking through my mythological resources I still caught find anything. My first thought was Asmodeus, Lord of the Ninth, ruler of the Nine Hells of Baator, but after focusing Mournblade's post into a greater perspective, Basmodeus, rings a different tone.
How about letting us in on this little hint Mournblade, I am extraordinarily curious to find the source.
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Bookwyrm
Great Reader
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Posted - 01 Jun 2003 : 10:57:31
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| Asmodeus might have been what I was thinking of. But I don't know. I'll just wait for him to say. Unless it's supposed to be a riddle, in which case I'll give it another crack. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 01 Jun 2003 : 13:04:46
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As for the actual thread question, I would probably have to say, that I like a little of both. I use a portion of my personality (what little there is of it ) in my PC's, especially the Sage of Perth, and extra especially when I DM. In fact my PC's are sometimes so much like me that it is sometimes difficult to determine where I finish and my PC begins.
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Mournblade
Master of Realmslore
USA
1287 Posts |
Posted - 01 Jun 2003 : 22:46:02
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| NOPE no riddle or mythology there. The heirarchs are essentially all EVIL godlike beings, and BASMODEUS is the lord of hell. The original writers of the larp back in 1992 just did not think they could use ASMODEUS. So essentially in the early years of the game PC's who were Warlocks had to keep their powers secret, because they derived their power from Heirarchs. Now Warlocks derive their power from CHAOS. There are evil warlocks, and their are good warlocks, and there are crazy warlocks. BUT all the warlocks, whether good or evil will come together in a time of need and defend each other, opposite Morales or not. My warlock Turloch has a philosophy that if evil means must be used to benefit the greater good than there is no problem with using that evil. Turloch is very much into preserving BALANCE. Currently he thinks the paladins are impotent and destroying Avalon (the world) so he is encouraging younger people to specialize into DARK PALADINS. Turloch has made deals with Heirarchs, Demons, Liches, and Death knights. He hates them but so far it has payed off. Originally there was what we called TEAM EVIL. Every warlock had a DARK PALADIN defender. those days have since gone, because everyone runs to the Warlocks for protection now, but we have quite a bloody history behind us. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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eilinel
Learned Scribe
France
296 Posts |
Posted - 11 Jun 2003 : 13:00:24
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31774 Posts |
Posted - 11 Jun 2003 : 13:15:07
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I find paladins-based stories sometimes make the best adventure campaigns, even in LARPS. This is evidenced by Mournblade's campaign listed recently here. It's sounds very interesting.
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Mournblade
Master of Realmslore
USA
1287 Posts |
Posted - 11 Jun 2003 : 22:18:36
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WHOOOOF!!! Well after this weekend I am in a world of hurt. The Warlock who is essentially the Master is named Lord Johanne. Last month he killed an old member of our group for burning his banner, and the DUke of the land stripped his title, to simply MASTER Johanne. Well THIS month, one of the nobles of the HOUSE OF THE SUN (The paladin guild essentially) BANISHED Johanne. SO now I as Turloch have to gain support to get his title back.
This of course may not be an issue, for an Empire of earth 'genasi' are attacking the land we are in. Johanne is the onoy human to be trusted by Southern Elves (grey elves) and the northern ICE elves (Very proud chaotic Neutral types). Well the Earth Ganasi called Carthidians will most certainly win if the Elves do not help. Since Johanne is still a noble in the elven realms (A rare honour for a human), he is going to wait for Avalon (human land) to be brought to its knees by the Carthidians, and then bring in the elven cavalry.
It is a great plan if it works, and meanwhile my character has to TRY to keep avalonians alive without actually allowing them to BEAT the carthidians. All of this why I am walking on egg shells of treason.
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 12 Jun 2003 : 07:42:21
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This sounds great Mournblade. I like the general theme of the campaign so far, and I find myself eagerly anticipating the next portion of your tale.
One question however - 'Is there a particular reason why the two factions of Elves may not help Johanne to prevent the Carthidians from winning?.'
Anyway, I can't wait for the next part .
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Mournblade
Master of Realmslore
USA
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Posted - 12 Jun 2003 : 22:53:45
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Originally posted by Sage of Perth
This sounds great Mournblade. I like the general theme of the campaign so far, and I find myself eagerly anticipating the next portion of your tale.
One question however - 'Is there a particular reason why the two factions of Elves may not help Johanne to prevent the Carthidians from winning?.'
Anyway, I can't wait for the next part .
May your learning be free and unfettered
Actually the Reaosn they would not help is because their ambassador (Johanne) is BANISHED. THe Elves would certainly help, but they are more friendly with Johanne than the avalonians, and they will WAIT for his word. So Johanne will wait for Avalon to feel the scourge of defeat, and then demand his title back before bringing in the elves. All the while His land of LOCKHART will be protected by the teleporting ICE ELVES. ALl the ICe Elves are warlocks, making them able to penetrate just about any magical defenses.
The next event is July 18th... and I can't wait!
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 13 Jun 2003 : 08:12:29
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Thanks for the information Mournblade.
Anyway I can't wait to hear about the next tale - that is, if you intend to post the next portion of the campaign tales here, like you have in the past.
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