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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
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 Posted - 10 May 2005 : 05:15:55
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Just when I thought I had seen it all....along comes this from WOTC's online site.
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
USA
5517 Posts |
Posted - 10 May 2005 : 05:23:42
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Originally posted by The Sage
"Oh... oh.... So who is everyone voting for?... "  .
I'm waiting for them to move to the FR and give us a Drizzt versus Elminster match. Although we all know Drizzt would wipe the floor with the wizard. So, why even waste the time? |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
USA
5517 Posts |
Posted - 10 May 2005 : 05:44:12
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Originally posted by The Sage
I just hope this all doesn't *encourage* a rapid proliferation of "who vs. who" threads to start popping up across forums everywhere...  .
Well....this new feature does show the audience level the WOTC site seems to be targeting. And it would appear to be the audience that likes such threads. |
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SomeDude
Acolyte
USA
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Posted - 10 May 2005 : 05:47:15
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If I could add one more bracket to the tournament it would be this:
anything from the character optimization board VS sane DM |
This is the highest my post count has ever been. |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
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BobROE
Learned Scribe
Canada
106 Posts |
Posted - 10 May 2005 : 06:02:28
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| But at least it's just a popularity contest, not a who's could kill who type one. |
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Jindael
Senior Scribe
USA
357 Posts |
Posted - 10 May 2005 : 06:10:57
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Seems a little...reaching, doesn't it? It's like the website is desperate for attention. Voting for a monster to appear in an online adventure?
An adventure that will take 15 weeks of voting before we find out who it features? 4 months for an WoTC webadventure, which are often only a page long anyway?
I mean, it's nice to get people involved, but just make 16 adventures.
EDIT: I know you voted. I voted for the cube. Also, the blinded beholder has a zombie parrot. I'm not sure if that's neat or not yet. |
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Edited by - Jindael on 10 May 2005 06:12:00 |
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DDH_101
Master of Realmslore
Canada
1272 Posts |
Posted - 10 May 2005 : 06:23:02
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| OMG... one of those people obsessed with "X vs. Y" battle topics must have infiltrated WotC. You know, we work so hard to keep those off this forum and then WotC goes and encourage people with this "contest". (sigh) |
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Kajehase
Great Reader
Sweden
2104 Posts |
Posted - 10 May 2005 : 06:24:40
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Actually, it's such a silly poll that I can't help liking it.
And I voted for the cube too - it'a a carnivorous giant jello, you gotta love it |
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VEDSICA
Senior Scribe
USA
466 Posts |
Posted - 10 May 2005 : 20:40:10
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This is a silly pool,and that's kind of why I like it too.Even though I have absolutly no idea what three-fourths of the creatures are.A Succubus Paladin???Since when???
I voted for the Tarrasque because I really hated the Cubes when I gamed,and I prefer not to eat jello(had a broken once).Or be eaten by one for that fact..... |
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
USA
5517 Posts |
Posted - 10 May 2005 : 20:47:33
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I haven't voted yet. So fans of either creature, feel free to attempt to sway me.  |
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Snotlord
Senior Scribe
Norway
476 Posts |
Posted - 10 May 2005 : 21:03:40
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I bet the feature is market research in disguise. They want to identify what the fans like and dislike.
I voted for the Cube, because I like the classic D&D critters, and I want the clever research suits at Wotc to know that. The Tarrasque is IMO a mutated boring T-Rex I could't care less about. |
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Kentinal
Great Reader
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Posted - 10 May 2005 : 21:04:01
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Originally posted by SiriusBlack
I haven't voted yet. So fans of either creature, feel free to attempt to sway me.
Vote the cube, is about only thing that can kill it on the list on a head to head conflict. The SR will most likely even prevent the lich from wining in a face off.
Personaly over all I am hoping the Succubus Paladin will be overall winner ;-) A LG demon certainly a rare thing to see.
Edit: Why I think the cube should win.
The tarrasque is not resitant to acid and after swollowing the cube the cube will continue to live and spun off spring that in time will inflick enough damage to over come the 40 regeneration. The cubes per rules would perhaps be eating forever however the tarrasque would be out of action. |
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"Caring for afterwards ...? Ker repeated this without understanding.
"After action, afterwards," the dragon said. "Choose the afterwards first, then the action. Fools choose action first."
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Edited by - Kentinal on 10 May 2005 21:30:53 |
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Garen Thal
Master of Realmslore
USA
1105 Posts |
Posted - 10 May 2005 : 21:37:39
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Prediction:
The final round will see Xxerlflyyn the beholder (fresh off his victory over the tarrasque) taking on the illithid Shuluth (who's just dined on yummy unicorn brains). |
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Kentinal
Great Reader
4688 Posts |
Posted - 10 May 2005 : 21:47:51
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Originally posted by Garen Thal
Prediction:
The final round will see Xxerlflyyn the beholder (fresh off his victory over the tarrasque) taking on the illithid Shuluth (who's just dined on yummy unicorn brains).
My Demon Paladin should be able to beat your mere Mind Flayer, however it is a vote and not dice/tactic that will determine the results.
It will be interesting to see what the results finaly are in the next few months. Heck the cube might win it all in the end ;-) |
"Small beings can have small wisdom," the dragon said. "And small wise beings are better than small fools. Listen: Wisdom is caring for afterwards."
"Caring for afterwards ...? Ker repeated this without understanding.
"After action, afterwards," the dragon said. "Choose the afterwards first, then the action. Fools choose action first."
"Judgement" copyright 2003 by Elizabeth Moon |
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
USA
5517 Posts |
Posted - 11 May 2005 : 02:08:01
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Originally posted by Kentinal
quote:
Originally posted by SiriusBlack
I haven't voted yet. So fans of either creature, feel free to attempt to sway me.
Vote the cube
All right, you convinced me.
See...I'm real easy. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31772 Posts |
Posted - 11 May 2005 : 02:55:55
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Originally posted by VEDSICA
A Succubus Paladin???Since when???
Since a very short reference to a NPC in a 2e Ravenloft tome. There's very little background on her, but it does mention that she is indeed a very RARE occurence.
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
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Posted - 11 May 2005 : 02:57:50
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Originally posted by SiriusBlack
See...I'm real easy.
And the fact that you brag about it is really quite telling.   |
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The Blue Sorceress
Learned Scribe
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Posted - 11 May 2005 : 04:54:54
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Originally posted by The Sage
quote:
Originally posted by VEDSICA
A Succubus Paladin???Since when???
Since a very short reference to a NPC in a 2e Ravenloft tome. There's very little background on her, but it does mention that she is indeed a very RARE occurence.
If good can be corrupted, why can't evil be redeemed? Just shows to go you that paladin hood doesn't always mean chastity  -or else it emphasizes the point for those of us who already knew that.
I voted for the cube, simply because I don't like the tarrasque.
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Kuje
Great Reader
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Posted - 11 May 2005 : 04:57:08
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
quote:
Originally posted by SiriusBlack
See...I'm real easy.
And the fact that you brag about it is really quite telling.
Was thinking this as well but didn't want to say anything. :) |
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
USA
5517 Posts |
Posted - 11 May 2005 : 05:01:50
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Originally posted by The Blue Sorceress
I voted for the cube, simply because I don't like the tarrasque.
-Blue
On first glance, I wanted to vote for the cube. I thought for sure the tarrasque would get all the votes because it seems no messageboard can survive without the creature being mentioned once a year at least. I'm surprised the cube has so many backers. I think if it can pick up another swing state or two the cube might be able to pull this upset off. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 11 May 2005 : 05:36:35
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Originally posted by The Blue Sorceress
If good can be corrupted, why can't evil be redeemed?
Evil creatures can be redeemed just as good creatures can fall toward evil.
Using a rules interpretation, there was a template presented in a third-party sourcebook - namely the Avatar's Handbook - which presented what is called a "reforged" creature template. Basically, this template allows evil-aligned creatures the chance to serve celestial beings on some grand mission that will prove their true committment to doing good. Of course, these evil creatures would have already had to display some significant move toward changing their ways. If you're interested in further details, I'll dig up the book when I get home.
From a story-telling perspective though, and playing upon the growing mania surrounding a certain film that is about to be released, one need only look to the grand Dark Lord of the Sith, Darth Vader himself. While representing one of the most villainous characters in the entire history of cinema, the "moral being" that is Darth Vader also displays a character who carries deep within himself the "last chance" for redemption. We see this later, when he finally seizes this last chance... turning his back on evil and standing against his master in an attempt to save his son.
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Edited by - The Sage on 11 May 2005 05:42:51 |
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Jindael
Senior Scribe
USA
357 Posts |
Posted - 11 May 2005 : 05:44:49
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The Book of Exalted Deeds has the Sactify the Wicked spell that turns an evil creature's alignment to that of the casters (which must be some form of good).
Costs a level though. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
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Arivia
Great Reader
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Posted - 11 May 2005 : 06:01:50
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Originally posted by The Sage
Yes, but the effect is not permanent, as I recall.
The 'reforged' template represents a complete and total alternation to a good-alignment.
No. it is permanent.
The sanctify the wicked spell leads to the sanctified creature template, which is permanent and total. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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36803 Posts |
Posted - 11 May 2005 : 11:22:19
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| If I remember correctly, there was a spell in Elves of Evermeet that also turned evil creatures to good. |
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Kentinal
Great Reader
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Posted - 11 May 2005 : 11:49:53
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
If I remember correctly, there was a spell in Elves of Evermeet that also turned evil creatures to good.
Soul Freedom (High Magic)
It takes 10 years to become permanent.
As written it would appear that it often does not work often.
-6 to saving throw when spell cast tends to change alignment, however once a month (for 1st year) must make a saving throw with the same -6 or revert back to original alinment, thereafter once a year until 10 are reached.
Pehaps it was meant to be written as +6 to maintain Good alignment?
Or must make saving throw at -6 to have alignment revert? |
"Small beings can have small wisdom," the dragon said. "And small wise beings are better than small fools. Listen: Wisdom is caring for afterwards."
"Caring for afterwards ...? Ker repeated this without understanding.
"After action, afterwards," the dragon said. "Choose the afterwards first, then the action. Fools choose action first."
"Judgement" copyright 2003 by Elizabeth Moon |
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
USA
5517 Posts |
Posted - 19 May 2005 : 04:37:47
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| This week's matchup. Pity about the cube, I was hoping it would pull off the upset. |
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Creature Competition: Head-to-Head
