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Kuje
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Posted - 28 Apr 2005 : 18:20:16
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OK, you folks have been asking for it, here it is: The Champions of Ruin ToC. I had to keystroke this in, so I didn't bother with many of the subordinate headers. I added a few quick notes about some things I thought you might want info on.
Just a reminder: I did very little work on this book. My only contribution was the initial write-ups on Bazim-Gorag and Malkizid, and even those were expanded on by the other authors (Jeff Crook, Wil Upchurch, and Eric Boyd).
INTRODUCTION What You Need to Play How to Use This Book in Your Campaign Philosophies of Evil Discussion of how folks might justify being evil--for example, by believing that there is no evil.
CHAPTER 1: RACES Draegloth Extaminaar Krinth
CHAPTER 2: TOOLS OF EVIL Feats New Spells Epic Spells Magic Items Looks like 36 new spells, plus 7 epic spells.
CHAPTER 3: PRESTIGE CLASSES Black Blood Cultist Justice of Weald and Woe Night Mask Deathbringer Shade Hunter Thayan Gladiator Vengeance Knight
CHAPTER 4: EVIL ORGANIZATIONS Cult of the Dragon Cults of the Moon The Eldreth Veluuthra Monks of the Dark Moon Sharran Cells The Unworthy of Ilsensine Zhentarim
CHAPTER 5: EVIL PLACES Evil Nodes Shadow Weave Nodes Shrines Other Evil Sites
CHAPTER 6: ENCOUNTERS WITH EVIL The Tone of Your Game What the Players Want Why Run an Evil Game? Enemies and Allies Nine ready-to-use villains, all statted up, with backstories and suggestions for use.
CHAPTER 7: CHAMPIONS OF EVIL Aumvor the Undying Living Zombie Eltab Thall of Eltab Soneillon, "Queen of Whispers" Dendar the Night Serpent Caverns of the Serpent Mother Kezef the Chaos Hound The Death Shallows Ityak-Ortheel, the Elf Eater Bazim-Gorag, the Firebringer Malkizid, the Branded King
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
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5517 Posts |
Posted - 28 Apr 2005 : 18:25:19
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Thanks kuje for this ToC. Did this come from Richard Baker on the WOTC message boards? |
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Kuje
Great Reader
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Posted - 28 Apr 2005 : 18:30:02
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quote: Originally posted by SiriusBlack
Thanks kuje for this ToC. Did this come from Richard Baker on the WOTC message boards?
Yup he just posted it within the hour. :) |
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Chosen of Moradin
Master of Realmslore
Brazil
1120 Posts |
Posted - 28 Apr 2005 : 18:33:44
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Thank´s Kuje!
For all the chapters, this book aparently will be a great boon to FR fans! |
Dwarf, DM, husband, and proud of this! :P
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Alaundo
Head Moderator
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Posted - 28 Apr 2005 : 23:18:18
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Well met
Splendid. Many thanks for bringing this over, Kuje
I'm more interestd in this tome that I initially expected i'd be. I'm quite surprised and happy to see Draegloth's featured in the Race section for starters and am very eager to read the beings listed Chapter 7, many of which I have hoped to read of for some time now. Chapters 4 through 6 also hold great interest to me.
Yet another fine FR tome |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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Posted - 29 Apr 2005 : 00:00:45
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I'm interested in the Draegloth, too... But I don't recognize the other two races from their names. I pray to Lurue that neither of them is a "return".
I'm particularly interested in the Eldreth Veluuthra, too. |
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Dargoth
Great Reader
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Posted - 29 Apr 2005 : 00:07:54
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Hmm interesting
I was hoping for a Knight of the Black Gauntlet PrC.....Oh well
Any ideas on the following
Prcs Justice of Weald and Woe (Sounds like a PrC for Tyche) Venegence Knight (PrC for Hoar?)
Organisations Cults of the Moon: Sounds like an evil Cult for Selune!!
I wonder if any of the places where evil gods died during the time of troubles will be considered Evil Sites
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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Posted - 29 Apr 2005 : 01:12:10
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quote: Originally posted by Dargoth
Hmm interesting
I was hoping for a Knight of the Black Gauntlet PrC.....Oh well
Any ideas on the following
Prcs Justice of Weald and Woe (Sounds like a PrC for Tyche) Venegence Knight (PrC for Hoar?)
Organisations Cults of the Moon: Sounds like an evil Cult for Selune!!
I wonder if any of the places where evil gods died during the time of troubles will be considered Evil Sites
Vengeance Knight does sound like something Hoar would have...
Cults of the Moon... I'm really curious to see what that one is.
As for your speculation of evil sites... That's an interesting notion. It could certainly be argued that Boareskyr Bridge would qualify... But what about where Bane died? And I'm seriously doubting that the top of Blackstaff Tower would be an evil site... |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31772 Posts |
Posted - 29 Apr 2005 : 02:09:31
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quote: Originally posted by kuje31
(Jeff Crook, Wil Upchurch, and Eric Boyd)
Ah! Then Baker's work is in good hands. All three writers/designers have been exceptional in their other works. Crook has done wonders for the DL line, and Wil Upchurch's creative efforts in the Midnight setting know no bounds. And then there's Eric... But we already know how wonderful he is .
quote: The Unworthy of Ilsensine
This sounds particularly intriguing. Kuje do you know yet who was directly responsible for each write-up for each chapter or section?
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ericlboyd
Forgotten Realms Designer
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Posted - 29 Apr 2005 : 02:34:40
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Not sure how the rest of the book was split up ... but I only had a small bit.
I detailed Aumvor the Undying (and Living Zombies and 2 epic spells), Eltab (and Thrall of Eltab), Soneillion (and her pet death knight), and the magic items that go with these guys.
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Dargoth
Great Reader
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Posted - 29 Apr 2005 : 02:55:59
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quote: Originally posted by Wooly Rupert [br Vengeance Knight does sound like something Hoar would have...
Cults of the Moon... I'm really curious to see what that one is.
As for your speculation of evil sites... That's an interesting notion. It could certainly be argued that Boareskyr Bridge would qualify... But what about where Bane died? And I'm seriously doubting that the top of Blackstaff Tower would be an evil site...
We know that the River that runs under Boareskyr bridge is tainted with evil
The site where Bane and Torm died is probably been cleaned up by Torms followers or Torm and Bane may have cancelled each other out (Ala Dagobath in Timothy Zahns SW Heir to Empire novels)
Mykrul on the other hand didnt really die on Blackstaffs tower his essense was sent away to a number of different locations including the Sea of Swords (Where we know Mykrul now has a temple on the sea floor) and the market area in Waterdeep which crumbled and decayed where ever Mykruls essense touched. Now the MArket area has probably been cleansed but Mykruls essense may have been washed down into Waterdeeps sewers or it may have even ended up in Undermoutain....... |
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SiriusBlack
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Posted - 29 Apr 2005 : 03:46:39
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quote: Originally posted by Wooly Rupert I'm particularly interested in the Eldreth Veluuthra, too.
Yes, it will be interesting to see what new information this tome has to offer versus the organization's write up in LOD. To my knowledge, there have been no other FR novels or gaming products between LOD and COR's publication that explored the EV. Correct? |
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Dargoth
Great Reader
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Posted - 29 Apr 2005 : 04:04:05
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quote: Originally posted by SiriusBlack
quote: Originally posted by Wooly Rupert I'm particularly interested in the Eldreth Veluuthra, too.
Yes, it will be interesting to see what new information this tome has to offer versus the organization's write up in LOD. To my knowledge, there have been no other FR novels or gaming products between LOD and COR's publication that explored the EV. Correct?
Into the Dragons lair has more info |
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SiriusBlack
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Posted - 29 Apr 2005 : 04:13:12
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quote: Originally posted by Dargoth Into the Dragons lair has more info
Was that tome published after Lords of Darkness? |
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Kuje
Great Reader
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Posted - 29 Apr 2005 : 04:16:22
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quote: Originally posted by SiriusBlack
quote: Originally posted by Dargoth Into the Dragons lair has more info
Was that tome published after Lords of Darkness?
Huh.... no that module ties in with the Cormyr novels and it came out before the FRCS..... |
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Dargoth
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Posted - 29 Apr 2005 : 04:19:07
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It does however have more info than the other 2 FR products he mentioned |
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
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5517 Posts |
Posted - 29 Apr 2005 : 04:21:46
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quote: Originally posted by kuje31 Huh.... no that module ties in with the Cormyr novels and it came out before the FRCS.....
Thanks kuje. Late here, but that's what I thought. |
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Kuje
Great Reader
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7915 Posts |
Posted - 29 Apr 2005 : 05:33:55
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quote: Originally posted by SiriusBlack
quote: Originally posted by kuje31 Huh.... no that module ties in with the Cormyr novels and it came out before the FRCS.....
Thanks kuje. Late here, but that's what I thought.
Nod and I don't recall them being in that module..... Are you sure Dargoth? I know Cloak & Dagger has info on them..... |
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Dargoth
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Posted - 29 Apr 2005 : 06:03:33
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Ah ok, its not alot
The Eldreth Veluuthra is mentioned in the "Concluding the Adventure" section of the module for the elvee. hmm i thought there was more..Oh well |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Dargoth
Great Reader
Australia
4607 Posts |
Posted - 29 Apr 2005 : 08:22:57
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quote: Originally posted by The Sage
Is there anything mentioned about the EV in that module that we don't already know from the few other previous resources that detail them?
Only that the Elves in ITDL are likely to join them if they escape from the Demi plane |
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Krafus
Learned Scribe
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Posted - 29 Apr 2005 : 15:02:53
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(Un)holy...
Aumvor, Eltab, Kezef, Ityak-Ortheel, Malkizid (who will probably play a prominent role in the Lost Mythal trilogy)... So many epic villains whose stats I've wondered at...
Champions of Ruin has just sold a copy. |
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George Krashos
Master of Realmslore
Australia
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Posted - 30 Apr 2005 : 03:35:10
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Whilst not having seen Malkizid, but knowing all about the Kezef, Dendar the Elf-eater etc, the one I think many people will enjoy is Aumvor. Just pure, manipulative evil. He's a keeper.
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
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Posted - 30 Apr 2005 : 04:50:46
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Interesting. The keepers have a liking for knowledge and information that borders on obsession. They'll always seem to show up right when one least expects it demanding some fragment of knowledge. Of course, what they individually do with this knowledge they collect is something else that has never been fully revealed about the keepers. However, it seems Aumvor has found some good use for what he "keeps", by manipulating others with what he has learned.
I've always had a soft spot for the keeper race, right back from the early PS days when they were first introduced in the PSMCII.
This is just another aspect of this book that I can't wait to learn more about .
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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Posted - 30 Apr 2005 : 05:34:45
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Uh, Sage, you do realize, do you not, that by "keeper" he could have meant that Aumvor was one worth keeping around? |
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The Sage
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Posted - 30 Apr 2005 : 06:55:53
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That could be.
Although, the keepers are an extraplanar race, with a history of involving themselves in worldly events. CoR seems to cover a great deal about outsiders who mingle in mortal and Material Plane affairs.
Or it may have been that I just let the anticipation for this sourcebook overwhelm my deductive reasoning centres... .
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George Krashos
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 30 Apr 2005 : 12:13:42
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Sorry to get your Planescape juices flowing Sage but Wooly is right - I was alluding to the fact that I think Aumvor will be a fine addition to the FR firmament and a potentially awesome long-term evil protagonist for any Realms campaign.
Oh, and he's Netherese.
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
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Krafus
Learned Scribe
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Posted - 01 May 2005 : 13:44:20
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quote: Originally posted by George Krashos
Sorry to get your Planescape juices flowing Sage but Wooly is right - I was alluding to the fact that I think Aumvor will be a fine addition to the FR firmament and a potentially awesome long-term evil protagonist for any Realms campaign.
Oh, and he's Netherese.
-- George Krashos
Just the fact that he's Netherese is enough to make me want to see his stats. |
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VEDSICA
Senior Scribe
USA
466 Posts |
Posted - 02 May 2005 : 03:36:47
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I am very interested in the Champions of Evil myself. |
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Snotlord
Senior Scribe
Norway
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Posted - 05 May 2005 : 11:58:44
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Maybe its just me, but it seems that FR is the only product line wotc develops new epic material. Not that I mind, the FR epic material has been very cool so far, and much more interesting than the generic material in ELH and the Complete Warrior.
The Champions of Evil chapter should give me material for years to come, judging by the TOC |
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