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Murray Leeder
Forgotten Realms Author
Canada
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 Posted - 22 May 2005 : 14:43:59
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Sadly, every copy I looked at in the bookstore had the same thing, and it's in my story! I hope it's still readable. The blurred lines are: "He pushed himself to the limits of his endurance, to keep from thinking about the fate that befell his friend. Every now and again, Trinculo would catch just a glimpse of the copper dragon on his tail, but it scared him to look. The turquoise gleam in his eyes had faded away, degenerating into a dull reddish glow."
It looks like only a few words are entirely obscured and they're pretty unimportant ones, happily.
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Alaundo
Head Moderator
United Kingdom
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Posted - 22 May 2005 : 14:46:59
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Originally posted by Murray Leeder
Sadly, every copy I looked at in the bookstore had the same thing, and it's in my story! I hope it's still readable. The blurred lines are: "He pushed himself to the limits of his endurance, to keep from thinking about the fate that befell his friend. Every now and again, Trinculo would catch just a glimpse of the copper dragon on his tail, but it scared him to look. The turquoise gleam in his eyes had faded away, degenerating into a dull reddish glow."
It looks like only a few words are entirely obscured and they're pretty unimportant ones, happily.
Well met
Aye, I just checked my tome and indeed the words are missing 
Many thanks for providing us with the full text, Murray. Invaluable and greatly appreciated  |
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Erin Tettensor
Forgotten Realms Author
USA
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Posted - 22 May 2005 : 15:43:55
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| Don't worry, Murray. It's a shame, but the text is perfectly readable anyway. |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
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Kuje
Great Reader
USA
7915 Posts |
Posted - 22 May 2005 : 17:01:30
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Okay now we should all return the novels en mass since they are all messed up. :)  
But seriously, that's why I wasn't going to return it. It wasn't a major paragraph that it happened on and I could figure out most of the missing text. |
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Lord Rad
Great Reader
United Kingdom
2080 Posts |
Posted - 22 May 2005 : 22:30:28
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Originally posted by Tremaine
Same here Kuje some of the text on page 238 was missing on my copy as well.I thought it was just my copy who else has got missing text on this page?
Damn I hadn't noticed that  It's not to much of a problem though, at least Murray has filled in the blanks here anyway but it's pretty easy to work out what was missing.
I will give feedback on these stories soon, I just haven't gotten around to reading the anthology yet due to other pressures. Apologies  |
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Xysma
Master of Realmslore
USA
1089 Posts |
Posted - 25 May 2005 : 19:26:46
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Originally posted by Erik Scott de Bie
Indeed. I purposefully made it fairly obvious, particularly to Realms / D&D fans -- I've gone through the story and counted the hints that I gave as to her draconic nature, and there were 26 (that's about 1 a page, not including repeated occurances of the same thing, like description of her features as fiery or feral). So I didn't go out of my way to make it subtle -- I figured people would guess the truth regardless of what I did, so I wrote the story in such a way that you'd like it regardless of whether you guessed it or not.
I liked the story, the draconic nature of Ryla was apparent, but the twist did get me. I just knew that Ryla was using adventurers to help her steal other dragons' hoards. |
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Erik Scott de Bie
Forgotten Realms Author
USA
4598 Posts |
Posted - 25 May 2005 : 22:36:49
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Originally posted by Xysma
I liked the story, the draconic nature of Ryla was apparent, but the twist did get me. I just knew that Ryla was using adventurers to help her steal other dragons' hoards.
Excellent! Glad you enjoyed.
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Erik Scott de Bie
'Tis easier to destroy than to create.
Author of a number of Realms novels (GHOSTWALKER, DEPTHS OF MADNESS, and the SHADOWBANE series), contributor to the NEVERWINTER CAMPAIGN GUIDE and SHADOWFELL: GLOOMWROUGHT AND BEYOND, Twitch DM of the Dungeon Scrawlers, currently playing "The Westgate Irregulars" |
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Kameron M. Franklin
Forgotten Realms Author
USA
228 Posts |
Posted - 01 Jun 2005 : 22:12:55
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Originally posted by Erin Tettensor
A quick question for my fellow authors: has anyone received their authors' copies yet?
I just got my copies today, along with the ones for Maiden, which probably explains the delay for me. |
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Krendar
Acolyte
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Posted - 02 Jun 2005 : 13:34:39
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I will start by saying that I enjoyed all the stories I have read so far. (I am about 1/2 way done.) At this point I would have to say that "The Road Home" is the story I have liked best. I hope that the rest of the stories are of the same quality as those I have already read.
But, I kind of feel cheated by WOTC. Flipping through this book, I noticed that I have paid for 32 pages of advertisements for current and future WOTC products.
How do the rest of you feel about this? |
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Kameron M. Franklin
Forgotten Realms Author
USA
228 Posts |
Posted - 02 Jun 2005 : 16:44:43
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| This was brought up over at Worlds of D&D as well. Something I just realized with the sample chapter of Maiden now available on WotC's site, is that the excerpt in RotD2 is not the same. So, it's like going to the movies knowing that part of your admission price includes a preview trailer that won't be seen anywhere else. |
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VEDSICA
Senior Scribe
USA
466 Posts |
Posted - 03 Jun 2005 : 01:42:58
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Fiorst off Well Met Krendar!!!!I am a little miffed that 32 pages are dedicated to advertisements.But if you didn't say anything.I probably wouldn't have noticed  Though I really don't mind the sample chapters of future Realms novels. |
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Erik Scott de Bie
Forgotten Realms Author
USA
4598 Posts |
Posted - 03 Jun 2005 : 02:21:48
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I myself didn't mind the sample chapters and advertisements (the former of which I always enjoy, and to me it's like an inclusion in the price of admission, and the latter of which I'm used to in Realms stuff), but it would seem likely that I'd say that, since one of my sample chapters is in there.
Less facetious, though: Sorry if you guys are a little miffed. I think Kam's analogy is a good one (price of admission), but it may not work for all. Rest assured, none of us had any control over it.
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Erik Scott de Bie
'Tis easier to destroy than to create.
Author of a number of Realms novels (GHOSTWALKER, DEPTHS OF MADNESS, and the SHADOWBANE series), contributor to the NEVERWINTER CAMPAIGN GUIDE and SHADOWFELL: GLOOMWROUGHT AND BEYOND, Twitch DM of the Dungeon Scrawlers, currently playing "The Westgate Irregulars" |
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Krendar
Acolyte
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Posted - 03 Jun 2005 : 13:33:27
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I do enjoy sample chapters as well. But, to continue with Kameron's movie analogy with respect to this book, it is like the producers of a movie made a movie that was 72 minutes (using an average movie time of 90 minutes) and decided to fill the rest of the time with advertisements because they new they were short. I don't know about the rest of you, but I would be upset if they did this. Doing a quick study, over the last year, Forgotten Realms novels averaged 320 pages (Using info from Amazon.com). This novel is 246 pages of new, complete stories. I just want the most for my money.
OK, I am done and will step off my soap box. |
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Lord Rad
Great Reader
United Kingdom
2080 Posts |
Posted - 03 Jun 2005 : 23:33:02
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I'm certainly not feeling short-changed about the various excerpts in the back of the book. I can understand those who aren't too happy as the book is a little thinner than most and taking into account these excerpts makes it even thinner. However, I look at it that this anthology was never to be and the anthology had already been done for the Rage, this one is a bonus and by the sounds of it, a damn good bonus too with some excellent stories.
Remember, this is a springboard for our new FR authors and as well as showcasing all their writing styles in these short stories, it only makes sense to show excerpts for those authors who have upcoming single novels. |
Lord Rad
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Kameron M. Franklin
Forgotten Realms Author
USA
228 Posts |
Posted - 03 Jun 2005 : 23:38:52
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That's very true, LR. RotD2 was a last minute idea brought about by the plethora of quality stories Phil had received for consideration for the first anthology. If there had been more time, I'm sure the editors would have gone back and asked for longer rewrites. As it was, he asked me and some other latecomers to the book to expand as we could.
I'm definitely thankful to have had this chance, but I can also understand how some readers might feel a bit disgruntled. |
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Edited by - Kameron M. Franklin on 04 Jun 2005 01:01:55 |
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Kameron M. Franklin
Forgotten Realms Author
USA
228 Posts |
Posted - 04 Jun 2005 : 01:01:03
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Doh, yes, you're right. It's Friday and I've been spending the day researching and writing consumer collateral about Internet security and ID theft. My brain is fried.
I'll go back and correct that now. |
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Erik Scott de Bie
Forgotten Realms Author
USA
4598 Posts |
Posted - 04 Jun 2005 : 01:24:09
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Meep. 
Post deleted.
Good word though.
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Erik Scott de Bie
'Tis easier to destroy than to create.
Author of a number of Realms novels (GHOSTWALKER, DEPTHS OF MADNESS, and the SHADOWBANE series), contributor to the NEVERWINTER CAMPAIGN GUIDE and SHADOWFELL: GLOOMWROUGHT AND BEYOND, Twitch DM of the Dungeon Scrawlers, currently playing "The Westgate Irregulars" |
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Paec_djinn
Learned Scribe
173 Posts |
Posted - 10 Aug 2005 : 16:11:47
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Just finished the remaining three stories a few days ago.
SPOILERS AHEAD
Fairie Ire Erin Tettensor
The story was a fun read I guess. It was littered with humour but the thing I didn't like was it was filled with cliches and at some points felt rather childish.
The Women Who Drew Dragons Rosemary Jones
The story's main plot only came later in the story but it was nicely done. It was rather predictable for me to see what was coming when that happened but the inclusion of a gem dragon fascinated me.
The Hunting Game Erik Scott de Bie
Not an overly original plot but fun nonetheless. The ending left it hanging. In all honesty, I didn't really like this one. There was more action than story here.
The Road Home Harley Stroh
The story failed to grab me. The pseudodragon in my opinion didn't really shine in this story and it could have easily been replaced by a lot of other things. I don't know why but I just didn't like this story. I think it might have been too bland.
How Burlmarr Saved The Unseen Protector Kameron M. Franklin
I REALLY LOVED THIS STORY. It was almost perfect and the tragic end just added to the intensity of the story. It was quite original and the inclusion of Palarandusk and the Arcane Brotherhood with logical goals just improved things.
A Tall Tale J.L. Collins
Yet another original and decent story. I liked how there were the two dragons in the story and it centered around the kids.
The Book Dragon Jim Pitrat
A visit to Mulhorrand, a place where I'm not exactly familiar with. The inclusion of Red Wizards is surely a plus and the story is not really that original though it isn't terribly cliched and predictable. The ending left me dumbfounded as to how Saura could have done what she did in such a short time.
Freedom's Promise Ed Gentry
My personal favourite here. The story itself is original and focus of the story is interesting as well. It didn't start that well but as soon as the artifact started causing the magic to go haywire, Gentry did well to portray it to readers and I felt that situation as well. The story is left hanging and I would love to see a future visit here.
Possessions James P. Davis
A very dark tale which I didn't quite fully understand. It was extremely confusing and it's just unfortunate that I couldn't fully enjoy it.
Queen of the Mountain Jaleigh Johnson
This story didn't really seem original to me although i'm not sure where I've seen one like this before. It was decent though and I found my interest in this going up from the beginning towards the end.
The Strength of A Jester Murray J.D. Leeder
The only story in the anthology set in the Year of Rogue Dragons and it does well to show the blind fury of dragons during that year. The story seemed rushed at some points. The ending was sudden and just really unfortunate (not a bad thing) and the ending was also rather hanging.
Overall, I'm content with the book. My only complain is the fact that most stories here are short and I'm paying the same amount of money for the average paperback book but I'm getting less. A lot of writers with alot of potential here. |
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Kameron M. Franklin
Forgotten Realms Author
USA
228 Posts |
Posted - 10 Aug 2005 : 16:42:57
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| Thanks for the kind words. I'm glad you liked the story. |
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khorne
Master of Realmslore
Finland
1073 Posts |
Posted - 10 Aug 2005 : 16:47:27
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Originally posted by Kameron M. Franklin
Thanks for the kind words. I'm glad you liked the story.
I`d also like to congratulate you. Your piece was in my opinion the best part of ROTDII. |
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EdGentry
Forgotten Realms Author
USA
175 Posts |
Posted - 10 Aug 2005 : 19:25:04
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Thank you very much, Paec_djinn.
I really appreciate those kind words and I'm so glad you liked the story. |
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Erik Scott de Bie
Forgotten Realms Author
USA
4598 Posts |
Posted - 10 Aug 2005 : 20:08:58
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Originally posted by Paec_djinn
The Hunting Game Erik Scott de Bie
Not an overly original plot but fun nonetheless. The ending left it hanging. In all honesty, I didn't really like this one. There was more action than story here.
I'm sorry it struck you that way. I shall strive not to disappoint in the future!
Questions from me:
Is "leaving it hanging" a good thing, or a bad thing, in your opinion?
What do you think would have improved the story?
It's funny -- half the people I talk to found the twist totally stunning, and half were completely unsurprised. I think hardened Realms readers tend to be more "in the know," when it comes to fantasy plots and twists.
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Erik Scott de Bie
'Tis easier to destroy than to create.
Author of a number of Realms novels (GHOSTWALKER, DEPTHS OF MADNESS, and the SHADOWBANE series), contributor to the NEVERWINTER CAMPAIGN GUIDE and SHADOWFELL: GLOOMWROUGHT AND BEYOND, Twitch DM of the Dungeon Scrawlers, currently playing "The Westgate Irregulars" |
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Paec_djinn
Learned Scribe
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Posted - 11 Aug 2005 : 02:02:28
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The twist wasn't really that unexpected. I accidentally came across a spoiler that said one of the party members was a dragon so it wasn't really hard to figure out. I think even without the spoilers, it would have been more a surprise if Ryla wasn't a dragon. The hanging end opens alot of possibilites but I neither feel good or bad about it. I thought that the mention of the hunting game was interesting as well.
I felt that the whole story seemed very similiar to Serpestrivillyth from the first RotD and perhaps if it wasn't so similiar it might have been better and that's why I thought the mention of the hunting game was interesting. |
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J L Collins
Forgotten Realms Author
Canada
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Posted - 11 Aug 2005 : 06:04:17
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Thank you for taking the time to reply Paec_djinn.
I know for myself, I wasn't expecting anymore comments about the anthology now that it has been released for several months. Thank you for your compliment, I'm very glad you enjoyed my story. |
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Paec_djinn
Learned Scribe
173 Posts |
Posted - 11 Aug 2005 : 06:20:48
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I know for myself, I wasn't expecting anymore comments about the anthology now that it has been released for several months. Thank you for your compliment, I'm very glad you enjoyed my story.
It's normal for me... Books in my country (Malaysia) only release 3-6 months after the original release here. RotD2 was a lucky find for me as I found it only two months after the original release. |
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Erik Scott de Bie
Forgotten Realms Author
USA
4598 Posts |
Posted - 11 Aug 2005 : 17:43:55
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Originally posted by Paec_djinn
The twist wasn't really that unexpected. I accidentally came across a spoiler that said one of the party members was a dragon so it wasn't really hard to figure out. I think even without the spoilers, it would have been more a surprise if Ryla wasn't a dragon. The hanging end opens alot of possibilites but I neither feel good or bad about it. I thought that the mention of the hunting game was interesting as well.
I felt that the whole story seemed very similiar to Serpestrivillyth from the first RotD and perhaps if it wasn't so similiar it might have been better and that's why I thought the mention of the hunting game was interesting.
Well, I hadn't read "Serpestrivillyth" before I wrote the story, so any similarities are coincidental, albeit regrettable. I'm sorry it came off as weaker than it could have been for you!
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Erik Scott de Bie
'Tis easier to destroy than to create.
Author of a number of Realms novels (GHOSTWALKER, DEPTHS OF MADNESS, and the SHADOWBANE series), contributor to the NEVERWINTER CAMPAIGN GUIDE and SHADOWFELL: GLOOMWROUGHT AND BEYOND, Twitch DM of the Dungeon Scrawlers, currently playing "The Westgate Irregulars" |
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Lord Rad
Great Reader
United Kingdom
2080 Posts |
Posted - 11 Aug 2005 : 18:35:57
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Originally posted by J L Collins
I know for myself, I wasn't expecting anymore comments about the anthology now that it has been released for several months. Thank you for your compliment, I'm very glad you enjoyed my story.
Well I have yet to post my comments on here also I apologise to the authors for not doing so yet, I've simply been snowed under lately but will definately get around to it soon.
Needless to say - fantastic job everyone, you must all be very proud  |
Lord Rad
"What? No, I wasn't reading your module. I was just looking at the pictures"
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EdGentry
Forgotten Realms Author
USA
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Posted - 11 Aug 2005 : 19:23:57
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Thank you very much, Lord Rad. I know we all really appreciate that and look forward to hearing your thoughts on the stories.
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Lord Rad
Great Reader
United Kingdom
2080 Posts |
Posted - 11 Aug 2005 : 21:11:54
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Originally posted by EdGentry
Thank you very much, Lord Rad. I know we all really appreciate that and look forward to hearing your thoughts on the stories.
Oh it's nothing but a pleasure, believe me |
Lord Rad
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