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BoneHead
Acolyte
USA
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 Posted - 10 Oct 2002 : 04:15:24
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I dont know if it is lack of interest or what but he has only read character creation and multiclassing since i last posted.
Just shoot me. |
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eilinel
Learned Scribe
France
296 Posts |
Posted - 10 Oct 2002 : 04:40:18
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Why don't you propose him to be the DM with the 3rd edition. A DM has to be a rule lawyer.
Well, i guess he 'd be a DM but start with the 2nd ed.
I don't know how to help you... I was like this guy, staying in the 2nd edition because i was a ****ing good lawyer, but what? I turned progressively to the 3rd ed, pushed by my friends. And finaly, i prefer the 3rd ed now. But i don't know how i did the curve. It was just like that. I think you have to wait a little bit more...
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The Great Drizzt
Learned Scribe
USA
280 Posts |
Posted - 12 Oct 2002 : 08:24:36
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I still like 2nd best, third isnt broad enough for my tastes yet, dont get me wrong, ive tried it, and its ok, but it doesnt have enough history and literature behind it yet, I think in time I will switch, but right now i'm PERFECTLY content with second edition.
The Great Drizzt |
"Don't poke Drizzt, 'tis highly unsociable!" Drizzt Do'Urden -BG1 |
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BoneHead
Acolyte
USA
6 Posts |
Posted - 16 Oct 2002 : 05:59:15
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Well he has finally made it into the combat chapter, and is liking things about the enw edition more and more, but his few visits to the WotC official d&d boards have gotten him down recently, and im inclined to agreee with him about them.
The attitude there of being only one right way to play, the attitude "official only" has got him down, he doesnt like the rules lawyering there, the way people let rules wording fly in the face of common sense.
Not much i can do for that, but if he will hurry up and finish the book we will all discuss wether or not to stay with 3rd or go back to second.
Trips to the official d&d boards make me want to go back to second just to be free of the rampant rules lawyering common among 3rd edition communities, even though i like the new rules better.
Ah well.
I mean this guy was a bad lawyer in 2nd, but the new generation has approached the game with a magic the gathering mindset that demands things be done a certain, as the books, regardless of how silly they may be, such as the fact that by strict wording a wish spell cannot tie your shoes. |
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The Great Drizzt
Learned Scribe
USA
280 Posts |
Posted - 17 Oct 2002 : 06:18:16
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I don't think its a good idea to make a DM outta someone that doesnt know very much about the game, like in your case, if you know more about it, then maybe you should be DM, just a thought.
The Great Drizzt |
"Don't poke Drizzt, 'tis highly unsociable!" Drizzt Do'Urden -BG1 |
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Echon
Senior Scribe
Denmark
422 Posts |
Posted - 02 Dec 2002 : 19:47:08
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I was going to make a new topic with the same...topic...but I decided to check to see if there was an old one first and it turned out there was. Anyway, a lot of the new members (myself included) have not vote here yet so it is about time.
AD&D Second Edition. Period.
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Mumadar Ibn Huzal
Master of Realmslore
1338 Posts |
Posted - 03 Dec 2002 : 13:45:55
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ROTFLOL... since the 2nd edition line is officially dead, your 'Period' is very well placed 
The whole subject being very subjective - after all it's called Favorite Edition - there cannot be a conclusive answer... and there doesn't need to be one. As long as people are enjoying the game in whatever edition, the main goal has been reached.
And to enjoy the Forgotten Realms is something that can be done completely without 'editions'. Just look at the amount of people that enjoy reading about the world (or playing computer games set in the Realms) who have never played D&D, AD&D or D&D 3e. |
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Echon
Senior Scribe
Denmark
422 Posts |
Posted - 03 Dec 2002 : 13:50:44
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Originally posted by Mumadar Ibn Huzal
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The whole subject being very subjective - after all it's called Favorite Edition - there cannot be a conclusive answer... and there doesn't need to be one. As long as people are enjoying the game in whatever edition, the main goal has been reached.
It was not meant to be a vote for the best edition. I simply wanted to know what people preferred.
[quote]And to enjoy the Forgotten Realms is something that can be done completely without 'editions'. Just look at the amount of people that enjoy reading about the world (or playing computer games set in the Realms) who have never played D&D, AD&D or D&D 3e.
True. However, I am starting to dislike the FR novelse (and the Dragonlance as well) the older I get. Thet are very mediocre.
I read the Avatar series mainly due to the knowledge of the Time of Troubles I would get and not because I enjoyed it overly much. It was good as times but bad at other times as well.
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"If others had not been foolish, we should be so."
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Kitira Gildragon
Learned Scribe
USA
191 Posts |
Posted - 03 Dec 2002 : 13:51:09
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Third Edition all the way! It might be new, and you all might have had experience with the 2nd, but it really helps speed games up!
You underestimate halflings, men. Look at Mazzy from BG2! She KICKS ARSE! One of my favorite quotes: "Explosives come in small packages". Need I say more? |
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The Defence Minister
Learned Scribe
United Kingdom
218 Posts |
Posted - 03 Dec 2002 : 17:00:24
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My favourite D&D edition is definately the 3rd. It's like the 2nd edition.................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................. only better!
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Captain Louis
Acolyte
USA
26 Posts |
Posted - 04 Dec 2002 : 18:57:28
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| I had a debat about this in a chatroom a few days ago, and I'll try to remember the conclusions I came up with. 2nd edition had its advantages, but the best part about 2nd edition was the quality of the books released. Alot more of the books were devoted to "fluff," things like history, adventure hooks, and things that would help with role-playing. For this reason people have claimed that 2nd edition was for role-players, while 3rd edition was for roll-players. This is completely false. A true role-player can play with any edition, because the rules will matter less. So the biggest argument that 2nd edition is better (which doesn't make sense, as better is an opinion, so there can be no answer) because it is used to role-play is false. The advantages of 3rd edition are many. In my opinion the rules are easier to use, the books are much better layed out, and it is easier to find rules in other books. One of the biggest problems with 2nd edition was the fact that a new book might reffer to a rule in a book that has been out of print for 5 years. And finally, when someone gets that book, it will reffer to a book that is 7 years old. If you didn't have many out of print books, then some rules were impossible to find. So, overall, there is no better edition, as 2nd has better info and third has better mechanics. |
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Mumadar Ibn Huzal
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 05 Dec 2002 : 07:57:12
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Well put Captain, I would agree with you on this. Afterall, D&D is a roleplaying game. How I would like for the likes of Steven Schend and Eric L Boyd to produce some more 'fluff' along the lines of Lands of Intrigue and Empires of the Shining Sea...
For those who've been paying attention, Eric has been working on some of the 3e FR products, and IMO his hand is visible in the fine 'fluffy' details. |
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Jeffrey Williams
Acolyte
USA
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Exodus
Acolyte
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Posted - 27 Jan 2003 : 17:29:07
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| Good day my lords ladys and peasants. For this topic you are all on each race has its benefits and down falls but for one to say that one race is better then another is childish. For I hate to say no one race is better then any other. |
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Mumadar Ibn Huzal
Master of Realmslore
1338 Posts |
Posted - 27 Jan 2003 : 18:42:16
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Originally posted by Jeffrey Williams
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For those who've been paying attention, Eric has been working on some of the 3e FR products, and IMO his hand is visible in the fine 'fluffy' details.
When, where, how? I wish to buy them.
I know you haven't kept up with the novels section of the FR Jeff, but in the Return of the Archwizards series, Eric made some big contribution (just look at the 'thanks to...' pages) |
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zemd
Master of Realmslore
France
1103 Posts |
Posted - 05 Feb 2003 : 10:20:25
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As far as i'm concerned, i think a big word was made on 3rd Ed
-> 2nde was a real mess, there were books about everything and nothing
-> New rules are quite simple, much more attractive for beginners
-> The new look is terrific
So i vote for the 3rd, and i'm waiting for the 3.5 (who wants to buy my 3rd ed by the way?) |
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Trafaldi
Learned Scribe
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Posted - 28 Feb 2003 : 13:38:16
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| I have to say that 3e is the better because it simplifies the game and allows you to get more wrapped up into the actual game. The feats and skills make the game better as well. I still like to play 2e on occasions but 3e allows the game to expand further. |
Some believe there is something more after death, if you really want to find out... go kill yourself and stop pestering me. |
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