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costaran
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Posted - 11 Apr 2005 :  00:34:28  Show Profile  Visit costaran's Homepage Send costaran a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
Does a paladin must be lawful aligned? What about a chaotic paladin? What is the relationship between a chaotic neutral cleric and a lawful good paladin of a chaotic good deity?

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Dargoth
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Posted - 11 Apr 2005 :  00:42:58  Show Profile  Visit Dargoth's Homepage Send Dargoth a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Officially in the Core rules a Paladin has to be LG

However

Dragon Magazine had Paladins of Different Alignments in issue 310-312

Theres also alternate rules for CG, CE and LE Paladins in Unearthed Arcana

and of cause the Divine Champion Prc in the PGTF

As for your question about relationships between one god and another, Its impossable to say without you name which gods your refering to

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costaran
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Posted - 11 Apr 2005 :  00:59:55  Show Profile  Visit costaran's Homepage Send costaran a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Actually, I was refering to Corellon and Eilistraee.

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Dargoth
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Posted - 11 Apr 2005 :  01:16:42  Show Profile  Visit Dargoth's Homepage Send Dargoth a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Officially neither of those 2 god can support Paladin as there CG

Sune is one and Only Exception to the rules

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SiriusBlack
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Posted - 11 Apr 2005 :  01:24:45  Show Profile  Visit SiriusBlack's Homepage Send SiriusBlack a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by costaran

Actually, I was refering to Corellon and Eilistraee.



If you're interested in a paladin for Corellon, you might wish to check out the Champion of Corellon Larethian Prestige Class (PrC) found in Races of the Wild. While it is not a paladin class, this Prc might be a good substitute depending upon your needs/wishes.
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Hoondatha
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Posted - 11 Apr 2005 :  02:12:20  Show Profile  Visit Hoondatha's Homepage Send Hoondatha a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Does a diety have to be LG to have paladins? Because I thought Lathander was NG and I know he has them. Is it just CG dieties that can't?

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Dargoth
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Posted - 11 Apr 2005 :  02:38:24  Show Profile  Visit Dargoth's Homepage Send Dargoth a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Hoondatha

Does a diety have to be LG to have paladins? Because I thought Lathander was NG and I know he has them. Is it just CG dieties that can't?



With the exception of Sune the 1 step rule applies ie a God has to be LG, LN or NG

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Hoondatha
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Posted - 11 Apr 2005 :  04:08:53  Show Profile  Visit Hoondatha's Homepage Send Hoondatha a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Aha. Thanks for that.

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Mareka
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Posted - 11 Apr 2005 :  21:56:05  Show Profile  Visit Mareka's Homepage Send Mareka a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Many DM's allow paladins of Corellon. It's hard not to imagine a sun elven paladin knight in elven plate dedicated to that deity. There is the prestige class in Races of the Wild that SiriusBlack mentioned above, and I believe there are elven substitution levels for the paladin class as well in that book.

Eilistraee and Corellon get along just fine, so I don't see there being any animosity between the two churches. With individual zealots, however, well, anything goes. Depends on how those characters are played.
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SiriusBlack
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Posted - 12 Apr 2005 :  01:17:42  Show Profile  Visit SiriusBlack's Homepage Send SiriusBlack a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Mareka
Eilistraee and Corellon get along just fine, so I don't see there being any animosity between the two churches. With individual zealots, however, well, anything goes. Depends on how those characters are played.



Indeed, Corellon even has dark elves within his clery.
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Kaladorm
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Posted - 13 Apr 2005 :  02:02:03  Show Profile  Visit Kaladorm's Homepage Send Kaladorm a Private Message  Reply with Quote
There are tons of variant classes in Unearthed Arcana, including I believe one for chaotic good, chaotic evil and lawful evil paladins (evil paladins as opposed to blackguards)
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SomeDude
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Posted - 13 Apr 2005 :  05:20:20  Show Profile  Visit SomeDude's Homepage Send SomeDude a Private Message  Reply with Quote
First time post here. Go easy on me please for I have no experience before 3.0.

That said, for a "Paladin" of and deity see Divine Champion for a quick fix to that problem.

Not quite a perfict paladin for game stats but seems to work from a role-playing view.

Edited by - SomeDude on 13 Apr 2005 05:22:28
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Mareka
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Posted - 13 Apr 2005 :  21:09:48  Show Profile  Visit Mareka's Homepage Send Mareka a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by SomeDude

First time post here. Go easy on me please for I have no experience before 3.0.

That said, for a "Paladin" of and deity see Divine Champion for a quick fix to that problem.

Not quite a perfict paladin for game stats but seems to work from a role-playing view.


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