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Shadovar
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Posted - 08 Apr 2005 :  02:06:00  Show Profile  Visit Shadovar's Homepage Send Shadovar a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
Greetings to all, I know this topic sort of sounds silly and laughable.
But can I inquire the forum members what is the most terrible situation any character can face. It can be any imagined scenario or game based, please feel free to publish your views or replies (it can be realistic/amusing/sad or whatever it is). Your replies would be appreciated greatly.
For me, well the most terrible situation a character such as Vorian can face is against a foe that is beyond his own shadow abilities to counter.
I know the example above sort of sound silly but are there any greater scenarios than what I mentioned?
Thanks to any who reply.

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In general, I'd say that the most terrible situation would be for the character to be helpless while someone or something he or she loves is suffering or destroyed.

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SiriusBlack
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Posted - 08 Apr 2005 :  03:13:48  Show Profile  Visit SiriusBlack's Homepage Send SiriusBlack a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

In general, I'd say that the most terrible situation would be for the character to be helpless while someone or something he or she loves is suffering or destroyed.



Chillingly vivid and definitely what would be the most terrible situation for any character with a conscience.
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Rhezarnos
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Posted - 08 Apr 2005 :  04:42:27  Show Profile  Visit Rhezarnos's Homepage Send Rhezarnos a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Worst thing a character can face...
The DM hating you and but can't really kick you out, so he just tries his best to kill your character as many times as possible.
That, or being caught in the crossfire between illithid, Protoss and Zerg (wrote about that before...poor guy).

Playing a winged dwarf with acrophobia is fun.
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Kajehase
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quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

In general, I'd say that the most terrible situation would be for the character to be helpless while someone or something he or she loves is suffering or destroyed.



As someone who has experienced this in real life I can only say that, yes, this is as bad as it can get.

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Durak
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Posted - 08 Apr 2005 :  12:12:43  Show Profile  Visit Durak's Homepage Send Durak a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

In general, I'd say that the most terrible situation would be for the character to be helpless while someone or something he or she loves is suffering or destroyed.




I would add to this to make it worse.

Then to find out that after the fact there was something simple you could of done. That you knew you could do, but had forgotten in the stress of the moment.


The time that shiny red bauble you picked up could have turned off all the traps when activated. But you didnt do it, thinking it itself was a trap. Then told that your friend had died and your own inaction, by the evil power behind the dungeon.
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Chosen of Bane
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Posted - 08 Apr 2005 :  13:13:34  Show Profile  Visit Chosen of Bane's Homepage Send Chosen of Bane a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

In general, I'd say that the most terrible situation would be for the character to be helpless while someone or something he or she loves is suffering or destroyed.



If I take this one step farther I can describe what just happened to my most beloved character, Borin Goldmallet (Paladin/Dwarven Defender).....
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Early in his adventuring days (level 3-4) Borin fell victim to a wicked spell of domination. While under this magical compulsion Borin was forced to murder innocents and destroy the lives of enemies when they were helpless and sleeping. This happned to Borin twice during early career and both times it devestated him that he could turn into such a monster.

Than when Borin was much more experienced and felt he was able to fight off such magical charms it happened to him again. Only this time his enchanter compelled him to smite the very party he defends with his life. Borin was powerless to resist and began absolutely hammering his adventuring companions.

When the fight looked grim his enchanter escaped via translocation magic and ended the command to kill his party, he figured it was a tool he could use another day. Borin however had been under this influence before and realized this type of domination could last days. He begged the party priest to dispel it but it was beyond his powers. So, being the champion of good that he was Borin could no longer stomach the possibility of hurting his loved ones. Borin drew his mighty Stormblade (+1 Shocking Waraxe) and smote himself (Coup De Grace). So ended the career of Borin Ironspear Goldmallet II .

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So, the situation here was the character himself causing the people he loved to suffer and he was powerless to do anything about it. It was a VERY frustrating thing to have been dominated 3 times but we really didn't have the resources to prevent it. I have since made a new character because Borin was to shamed to be resurrected. But that was hands down the worst thing that ever happened to one of my characters.

The second worst thing would probably be when a Gnomen Cleric of Gond failed his save after being bitten by a werewolf. It caused for one night of murder but after that the party took care of it with out a real problem.

Edited by - Chosen of Bane on 08 Apr 2005 13:24:48
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Smirc
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Posted - 08 Apr 2005 :  17:47:25  Show Profile  Visit Smirc's Homepage Send Smirc a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Three simple words, Pissed off God.

"We pity him. We hate him. We fear him—all because there is a little of him in each of us, though we admit it to ourselves only in the darkest part of the night."
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Sholnfete
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Posted - 09 Apr 2005 :  01:17:41  Show Profile  Visit Sholnfete's Homepage Send Sholnfete a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The most terrible situation I've seen is a rogue PC made an already grumpy wizard PC grumpier by an attempted theft. All of a sudden the barbarian PC walks in sees the wizard picking on his thief friend and then the fighting starts. Spells and fists are thrown and all hell is breaking loose.
Thank God for quick-thinking PCs and friendship potions .

We live in a bleak world my friend, where heroes are few and shadows stalk us from every corner.
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Wooly Rupert
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Actually, I just realized the most terrible situation a character can face, and it's one that makes all the other ones listed here pale by comparison...

The most terribly situation a character can face... is the Dice Gods being mad at him.

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SiriusBlack
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Posted - 09 Apr 2005 :  01:37:08  Show Profile  Visit SiriusBlack's Homepage Send SiriusBlack a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
The most terribly situation a character can face... is the Dice Gods being mad at him.



Or Troy Denning.
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Wooly Rupert
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quote:
Originally posted by SiriusBlack

quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
The most terribly situation a character can face... is the Dice Gods being mad at him.



Or Troy Denning.




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Karesch
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Posted - 09 Apr 2005 :  05:09:16  Show Profile  Visit Karesch's Homepage Send Karesch a Private Message  Reply with Quote
someone's not fond of Troy's destructive powers...

As for my own thoughts on it, I would say, complete and utter ruination... Being forced to sit and actually watch (in a helpless state) while all of your friends/family/loved ones are cruelly executed, and then all your worldly belongings are torn asunder/obliterated. (this includes but isn't limited to items on the person, items stashed somewhere, home(s), lands (sewn with salt?), Everything.) then being informed that all this was brought upon you, over a slight the character made against the wrong person, who made it their own passion to ruin them. Then being crippled (permanent physical crippling) and then just being left in that state. With absolutely nothing but the pain of loss, and the knowledge you can't do anything to recover it.

Kar

Knowledge is power... power corrupts... knowledge corrupts? hmm...

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Yggdrasil
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Posted - 09 Apr 2005 :  10:29:24  Show Profile  Visit Yggdrasil's Homepage Send Yggdrasil a Private Message  Reply with Quote
fleeing a mad wizard with a fully charge wand of disintrigation and forgetting the way out, running in to 5 invisible dragons while dragging
your best friend with you who has been charm by the wizard. This really happen to me out of a party of 5 only 2 made it out me and my charmed friend since after he snap out of it we flee by taking turn dragging each other out

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Beowulf
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Posted - 09 Apr 2005 :  16:02:36  Show Profile  Visit Beowulf's Homepage Send Beowulf a Private Message  Reply with Quote

How's about being gifted with complete immunity to all scrying, so that a crazy and bitter god can't find you, only to be imprisoned within a large block of amber and hidden in a long forgotten ruin by the followers of another crazy, bitter (and dead) god?

One of my players was once influenced to take up a battle axe that was crafted using the soul of a mighty barbarian chieftain. He was then influenced by his paladin friend -- actually a disguised erinyes seeking redemption in the eyes of her Devil-Queen -- to take up the axe. He was then compelled by axe and friend alike to murder a powerful spellcaster they had been travelling with.

Not long after this murder, the band said pc was travelling with found themselves in a lawless tavern with a great battle about to break out between three or four opposing sides. Fearing rival spellcasters he took up "the axe" again. And while he did slaughter the rival spellcasters, quickly, he next found himself turning on his female spellcaster friend and watched helplessly as he hewed her down.

He would have killed his best friend too, if not for the timely internvention and thoughtful actions of a more experienced warrior.

"Ill tempered the wretch, who laughs at everyone. He cannot recognize, as he should, that he is not without faults." the High One, Poetic Edda
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Kaladorm
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Posted - 09 Apr 2005 :  20:26:09  Show Profile  Visit Kaladorm's Homepage Send Kaladorm a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Smirc

Three simple words, Pissed off God.



Excellent
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elven_songstress
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For me it was constantly being run out of places...pretty soon theres not going to be anywhere to adventure because your known there, hard to have a life adventuring or otherwise that way.

We need to be reminded sometimes that a sunrise lasts but a few minutes,but its beauty can burnin our hearts eternally."
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Mareka
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Posted - 12 Apr 2005 :  22:04:24  Show Profile  Visit Mareka's Homepage Send Mareka a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Karesch

someone's not fond of Troy's destructive powers...

As for my own thoughts on it, I would say, complete and utter ruination... Being forced to sit and actually watch (in a helpless state) while all of your friends/family/loved ones are cruelly executed, and then all your worldly belongings are torn asunder/obliterated. (this includes but isn't limited to items on the person, items stashed somewhere, home(s), lands (sewn with salt?), Everything.) then being informed that all this was brought upon you, over a slight the character made against the wrong person, who made it their own passion to ruin them. Then being crippled (permanent physical crippling) and then just being left in that state. With absolutely nothing but the pain of loss, and the knowledge you can't do anything to recover it.

Kar


Hmm. This happened to a character in the movie I watched last night.

Sure makes you hate the villains, though, don't it?
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SomeDude
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Posted - 13 Apr 2005 :  06:35:37  Show Profile  Visit SomeDude's Homepage Send SomeDude a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
In general, I'd say that the most terrible situation would be for the character to be helpless while someone or something he or she loves is suffering or destroyed.


Make the character a cleric of ilmater and you've got my vote.
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Sigonan
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Posted - 13 Apr 2005 :  11:40:02  Show Profile Send Sigonan a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I think there is a really bad fate:

Imagine someone, let's say a fighter. He is young and strong and decides to take up the battle against evil (because evil gyus have burnt his village or killed a loved one or generally has touched his life in an unpleasant manner...). In his adventures, he destroys a representative of evil, only to realize that this person was holding the only way to defeat the forces of evil, if only he was persuaded to do so...and then watch the Legions of Doom march and destroy...

Sigonan Darkpeeble-the multifaceted wizard
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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 13 Apr 2005 :  18:00:49  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
A slightly cliched concept: the good guy becomes what he opposes. Like the vampire hunter who gets turned into a vampire himself...

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ghenjiskhan
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Posted - 14 Apr 2005 :  16:32:42  Show Profile  Visit ghenjiskhan's Homepage Send ghenjiskhan a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The most terrible situation a character can face...
Well... depends.
For my character (Joseph) i would be... Be incapacited of eating his conrades! hehehe... As a canibalist it would be the most terrible situation for him.
As for other characters. Hida Sougirou i would be betray his clan. For Garr Ladon i would be kill his loved ones.
As far as i can see, it depends from character to character.

P.S.: Sorry for any misspeling. My english its a little rusty!

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Wooly Rupert
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quote:
Originally posted by ghenjiskhan

The most terrible situation a character can face...
Well... depends.
For my character (Joseph) i would be... Be incapacited of eating his conrades! hehehe... As a canibalist it would be the most terrible situation for him.
As for other characters. Hida Sougirou i would be betray his clan. For Garr Ladon i would be kill his loved ones.
As far as i can see, it depends from character to character.

P.S.: Sorry for any misspeling. My english its a little rusty!



No worries... Some of our native English-speakers are prone to misspellings.

For one of the characters I played, a terrible situation would be running out of beer!

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Chosen of Moradin
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Posted - 14 Apr 2005 :  18:09:40  Show Profile  Visit Chosen of Moradin's Homepage Send Chosen of Moradin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Well... talking for my character (a dwarven fighter, future dwarven fighter/dwarven defender), the most terrible thing will be to fail to their friends in a combat... for me, anyone caught in a situation, without nothing to do to help the others is very terrible...

And don´t worry, Genghiskhan... your characters will stay very wel... er... until the next game session... hehehe...

Dwarf, DM, husband, and proud of this! :P

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ghenjiskhan
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Posted - 14 Apr 2005 :  18:44:01  Show Profile  Visit ghenjiskhan's Homepage Send ghenjiskhan a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Thanks Choosen! I´ll prepare my cookbook... let´s see...

Halfling Fingers Cocktail (Coquetel d Dedos Halflings)
Elven Heart Pie (Torta d Coração d Elfo)
Thayan Skin with Smashed Potatos (Torresmo d Thayano com Purê d Batatas)

Hum...

P.S.: IT´S IT! IT´S IT idiot! Not i would! IT WOULD!! hehehehehe...

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Chosen of Moradin
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Posted - 15 Apr 2005 :  21:43:05  Show Profile  Visit Chosen of Moradin's Homepage Send Chosen of Moradin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Well, welll, ghengiskhan...

This remember me of that fateful game session... all the players involved in a nasty battle... after several rounds of combat, the enemie falls, and the heroes finally can rest. But the galant and honorable paladin of the group died in the battle... in a great moment of charity and leadership, Joseph Steelheart, priest of Tchazzar (character of ghengiskhan) declares to the group:

"Stay calm, noble fellows. With the autority of the religious leader of our brotherhood, I will take care of the funeral of our galant paladine..."

After this, the cleric put the body in a great bag (this is the right term?), dug a improvised tomb and... desnecessary to say... some minutes later, the group was taking part in the burial of a bag full of rocks... and nobody wonder in what thing Joseph carrie in that big bag in his back...

And the group have some juicy meat dinners all the way back to Waterdeep....

I think that little "game memory" deserves go to the "Stupid thing a character have done" thread, with the title "Never die if you have a cannibal in your group", or "check the references of the gourmet!!!"

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Defender
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How could I missed this interesting topic?
well, I say the most terrible situation is when one is engaged in a hot situation where a fighter/mage is surrounded by numerous foes and yet is desperate for a toilet as the need to answer the call of nature is simply too great!
Just for amusement.

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Sigonan
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Following the example of dearest Wooly, I would say:

"Why don't you try to cause the dandee (or dandy?) charismatic bard of the party run low on the useful spell protection against sexually transmitted disease or its material components?"
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Shadovar
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An interesting reply.

We have fostered trust, recruited loyalty, and gathered the faithful. We have trained thousands. Our legions can cover the land, fill the sky and travel through the darkness. We can hunt any and all that would deny our heritage. Now is our time, now is the time of the Dark Reign(Rain) of the Empire of Shadows.
- High Prince Telemont Tanthul, Lord Shadow
In a speech given to the citizens of Shade Enclave
At the celebration of the Shinantra Battle victory when he revealed that he was THE Lord Shadow of legend.
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Fletcher
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Posted - 05 May 2005 :  00:09:13  Show Profile  Visit Fletcher's Homepage Send Fletcher a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Here is a situation for a character.
Have them make a decision, where every choice available hurts some one/thing they care about/love.
"You have to give that drow General a virgins soul for him to let you pass to capture the villain who has an artifact that will sink your home nation into the seven realms of baator! You only have 1 hour before the artifact destroyes your home!"

"But sir, I am a Paladin and am sworn to do no such thing!"

or evil architect creates a devious torture for his captured foe...

"Pull this lever and your daughter dies, freeing your wife and yourself.
Pull the other leve and your wife dies, freeing your daughter and yourself.
Pull neither one in 1 minute and they both die! Bwaa haa haa haa!"


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Shadovar
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Greetings Fletcher, that's certainly an amusing, truly amusing and most will-breaking situation I have ever heard. Nice situation to pit the best heroes to the test.

We have fostered trust, recruited loyalty, and gathered the faithful. We have trained thousands. Our legions can cover the land, fill the sky and travel through the darkness. We can hunt any and all that would deny our heritage. Now is our time, now is the time of the Dark Reign(Rain) of the Empire of Shadows.
- High Prince Telemont Tanthul, Lord Shadow
In a speech given to the citizens of Shade Enclave
At the celebration of the Shinantra Battle victory when he revealed that he was THE Lord Shadow of legend.
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