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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
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 Posted - 06 Nov 2008 : 14:56:18
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Originally posted by BEAST
O-Love's timeline is a wonderful starting point, but remember the qualifier that it seems to be towing the company line...
It's more likely that O-Love simply doesn't have the time to read (or re-read) every single FR novel to figure out where it really belongs on the timeline. |
"Instead of asking why we sleep, it might make sense to ask why we wake. Perchance we live to dream. From that perspective, the sea of troubles we navigate in the workaday world might be the price we pay for admission to another night in the world of dreams."
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BEAST
Master of Realmslore
USA
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Posted - 06 Nov 2008 : 15:28:39
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Originally posted by Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
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Originally posted by BEAST
O-Love's timeline is a wonderful starting point, but remember the qualifier that it seems to be towing the company line...
It's more likely that O-Love simply doesn't have the time to read (or re-read) every single FR novel to figure out where it really belongs on the timeline.
Actually, both are equally likely. Because O-Love doesn't have the time, therefore O-Love tows the company line, which requires plenty, but relatively less, time.  |
"'You don't know my history,' he said dryly."
--Drizzt Do'Urden (The Pirate King, Part 1: Chapter 2)
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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Posted - 06 Nov 2008 : 15:51:53
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Originally posted by BEAST
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Originally posted by Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
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Originally posted by BEAST
O-Love's timeline is a wonderful starting point, but remember the qualifier that it seems to be towing the company line...
It's more likely that O-Love simply doesn't have the time to read (or re-read) every single FR novel to figure out where it really belongs on the timeline.
Actually, both are equally likely. Because O-Love doesn't have the time, therefore O-Love tows the company line, which requires plenty, but relatively less, time.
Not only that, but if everyone toes the company line, it's much easier to keep track of it all. |
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BEAST
Master of Realmslore
USA
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Posted - 07 Nov 2008 : 08:18:14
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Not only that, but if everyone toes the company line, it's much easier to keep track of it all.
But what about those times when the company line for the books doesn't match what the books themselves say, for no apparent reason? If someone asks when did such-and-such in the books happen, or how old is who-and-who at this point in the books, how should that be answered: by the info in the books, or by the company line? (We can go into this on a detailed, case-by-case basis once I eventually get the chrono up, so you can see what I mean.)
I go by the books themselves, except when WOTC decided to force the Drizzt saga ahead in the timeline considerably in order to prepare for "The Hunter's Blades Trilogy". They didn't wait for RAS to write a transition to that later time period; they just announced that the books The Spine of the World and Sea of Swords were then to be dated later than what had been thought before, and then "THBT" would hopefully pan out with the 3rd or 3.5E.
SOSw, I get, as it immediately precedes "THBT", so if they needed "THBT" to fit a certain time period, then SOSw would have to come along for the ride. Plus, SOSw begins after Wulfgar has been sailing aboard the Sea Sprite, which can be effectively stretched from a matter of months to a matter of years without too much trouble.
But the notion of arbitrarily saying that TSOTW takes place later is problematic in several ways: 1) all of the events take place surrounding a pregnancy, which only takes nine months, and not a matter of three years; and 2) Morik the Rogue returns to Luskan and has a run-in with the drow at the end of the book, and this event was referred to in flash-back in Servant of the Shard, which means TSOTW's ending cannot happen later than the beginning of SOTS.
So my chronological reckoning for the works of RAS strives to go strictly by the time clues within the works of RAS themselves, except when it is absolutely necessary to make a correction, such as with SOSw in relation to "THBT" and 3E/3.5E. |
"'You don't know my history,' he said dryly."
--Drizzt Do'Urden (The Pirate King, Part 1: Chapter 2)
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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Posted - 07 Nov 2008 : 14:40:08
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
Not only that, but if everyone toes the company line, it's much easier to keep track of it all.
But what about those times when the company line for the books doesn't match what the books themselves say, for no apparent reason? If someone asks when did such-and-such in the books happen, or how old is who-and-who at this point in the books, how should that be answered: by the info in the books, or by the company line? (We can go into this on a detailed, case-by-case basis once I eventually get the chrono up, so you can see what I mean.)
That's really a hard one to answer... Most books don't have any chronological issues, so following the company line isn't a problem. When it is a problem, I guess it depends on the reader -- if they're concerned about such things -- to pick which they'd like better. It matters less when the events of a novel or series happen independently of anything else. |
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mnb128
Learned Scribe
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Posted - 07 Nov 2008 : 20:01:41
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| I think it all depends on how anal retentive you are. I happen to be quite anal when it comes to chronology. Even when the books aren't in any way related I still want to know what else was going on in "the world" at that time. I think the difficulty with the Drizzt books is that RAS seems to march to the beat of his own drum when he can, and Wizards doesn't seem to be all that interested in making their timeline sensible until a new edition of FR is about to come out. Anyway, I'm with Beast on this one. It drives me crazy to see "Bones and Stones" dated 1370 DR when context clues in the Orc King make it obvious that the events took place in 1371. O-Love's site is great, but when it comes to Drizzt, Beast's timeline is much more accurate. |
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Mr. Coyote
Acolyte
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Posted - 07 Aug 2009 : 20:06:14
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BEAST
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 08 Aug 2009 : 09:22:36
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What about The Stowaway, where would it fall in to line?
If you check the chronology in my sig, you will see that I estimate The Stowaway (TSt) as taking place in the year 1362 DR.
Most of its events take place concurrently with the main events of The Halfling's Gem, which took place in 1356 DR. But the "Part" sequences of TSt are said to take place six years after those events.
1356 DR + 6 yr = 1362 DR
This would place the "current time" of the novel roughly in the middle of Drizzt's and Catti-brie's sailing voyages aboard the Sea Sprite with Captain Deudermont, between Siege of Darkness (1358 DR) and Passage to Dawn (1364 DR). |
"'You don't know my history,' he said dryly."
--Drizzt Do'Urden (The Pirate King, Part 1: Chapter 2)
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Mr. Coyote
Acolyte
USA
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Posted - 13 Aug 2009 : 17:22:02
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| Thanks for the shove in the rite direction there Mr, Beast, I only started reading Salvatote's work this past year although I've had most of his books for a long while now. Is there an point in the Drizzt sage that I sould read the The Cleric Quintet or the rest of The Sellswords before getting to? |
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Drizztsmanchild
Learned Scribe
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Posted - 15 Aug 2009 : 07:25:12
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Actually Mr Coyote. Read the Cleric Quintet before Passage to Dawn if you want to get a view of who Cadderly and Danica etc...are.
Also as far as the Faerunian timeline goes I personally would read the following novels before the Sellswords trilogy in this order:
Dark Elf Trilogy:
Homeland
Exile
Sojourn
Icewind Dale trilogy:
The Crystal Shard
Streams of Silver
The Halfling's gem
Now I don't know if this is a trilogy but these novels are next:
Legacy
Starless Night
Siege of Darkness
Passage to Dawn
Silent Blade
After the Silent Blade I think you can feel free in reading the next books as you see fit:
Spine of the world
Sea of Swords
The Sellswords Trilogy(read these in order)
The Servant of the Shard
The Promise of the Witch King
The Road of the Patriarch
Now we get back to reading in order
The Hunters Blade trilogy
Thousand Orcs
The Lone Drow
The Two Swords
The Transitions Trilogy:
The Orc King
The Pirate King
The Ghost King(Oct 2009)
Plus there are other small novella's in the best of the realms collections
Hope that helps, and that it didn't step on anyones or BEAST'S domain or sphere ;) |
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Arivia
Great Reader
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Posted - 15 Aug 2009 : 08:24:28
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| Technically, the Silent Blades, Spine of the World, and Sea of Swords were struck as one trilogy. |
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BEAST
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 15 Aug 2009 : 09:42:06
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Originally posted by Mr. Coyote
Thanks for the shove in the rite direction there Mr, Beast
You betchya! I live for this stuff!
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Is there an point in the Drizzt sage that I sould read the The Cleric Quintet or the rest of The Sellswords before getting to?
I would agree with D'manchild that "The Cleric Quintet" ("TCQ") is best read in chronological sequence, between Siege of Darkness (SOD) and Passage to Dawn (PTD). In PTD, Drizzt meets the characters introduced in "TCQ", so you might as well read up on them in their own mini-series, first, so you know what's up when he meets them.
It's your personal choice whether you want to read "The Sellswords" ("TSe") in its proper chronological placement, between The Spine of the World (TSOTW) and Sea of Swords (SOSw), or if you want to wait a while before reading it. Its characters are an offshoot from the Drizzt stories, and don't connect back until later. Just make sure and check out "TSe" before picking up The Pirate King (TPK), as that's when the two separate storylines converge again. |
"'You don't know my history,' he said dryly."
--Drizzt Do'Urden (The Pirate King, Part 1: Chapter 2)
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