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Skeptic
Master of Realmslore
Canada
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 Posted - 25 Mar 2005 : 21:11:39
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In my current campaign, the player who plays a monk got an idea, he wants to have for his unarmed attack, the same kind of magic you can apply to melee magical weapons (flaming, bane, impact, etc.) Those special attacks would come from permenant magicals tatoos or something like it.
First, is there balance issues here ?
Second, how to incorporate this in the Realms, who could "make" such tatoos, etc..
Thanks for all inputs :)
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Weiser_Cain
Seeker
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Posted - 25 Mar 2005 : 23:56:25
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| The first thing that came to mind is the Thay, since they already do tattoos. An easier thing would be magical gloves. Maybe make them more expensive since he can't loose the tattoo. |
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Skeptic
Master of Realmslore
Canada
1273 Posts |
Posted - 26 Mar 2005 : 00:07:45
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Yeah magical gloves would be an easier solution, but Tatoos are more a flavor thing for him :)
IIRC, there is a Red Wizard enclave is Luskan.. ? |
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Wood Elf Ranger
Senior Scribe
USA
627 Posts |
Posted - 26 Mar 2005 : 03:42:11
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Would this monk condone a tattoo from an evil source?
Another option would be a dwarven runecaster that could paint runic tattoos that would serve the same perpose.
Perhaps he could even come across a very old monk from an all but forgotten monestary that specializes in monk tattoos. Then he will of course have to perform some kind of service for this old monk (along with some cash too of course) before he can get them. |
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Weiser_Cain
Seeker
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Posted - 26 Mar 2005 : 07:47:43
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I Belive it was Luskan, yes. Yeah the thay are evil. I forget this because I'm so evil I think it's normal...
As long as the character ok with it and watches out that he doesn't become a slave or some other double-cross(hook) he should be fine. |
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Icewolf
Learned Scribe
USA
214 Posts |
Posted - 26 Mar 2005 : 11:06:45
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The way a DM I play with works enchanting monks is this:
If a character has Improved Unarmed Strike, his hands qualify as melee weapons. He has to have both hands enchanted (i.e. a +1 enchantment will cost the character 4,000 gold, instead of 2,000)
I find this quite a good way to keep it balanced.
Any thoughts on this? |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
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Posted - 26 Mar 2005 : 16:51:25
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Originally posted by Icewolf
The way a DM I play with works enchanting monks is this:
If a character has Improved Unarmed Strike, his hands qualify as melee weapons. He has to have both hands enchanted (i.e. a +1 enchantment will cost the character 4,000 gold, instead of 2,000)
I find this quite a good way to keep it balanced.
Any thoughts on this?
I'm not keen on the idea of enchanting a living creature with that kind of enhancement...
I'd either go with the gloves idea, or stick with tattoos.
If going with tattoos, I'd say they'd have to be insanely expensive, would require material components that would necessitate a quest or several to find, and then, after all that is done, there would be some penalty to balance it out -- maybe the monk would have to expend XP or HP to activate the special ability. |
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Thomas M. Reid
Forgotten Realms Designer & Author
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Posted - 26 Mar 2005 : 17:58:29
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Check out bracers of striking, pg. 155, Magic of Faerūn.
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ericlboyd
Forgotten Realms Designer
USA
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Posted - 26 Mar 2005 : 18:41:38
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There's a different "source" for the power and it's not as broad as your indicate, but a monk-focused PrC in an "upcoming product" might give some of what your player wants.
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Skeptic
Master of Realmslore
Canada
1273 Posts |
Posted - 26 Mar 2005 : 18:59:25
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Since the players will go to Luskan really soon, they will find that the Red Wizards are looking to make some experiments with new magical tatoos.. of course they will probably infuse them with some sort of magical tracking ;)
After, if Eric talks about Champions of Ruins and the PrC of Bane's Monk Order, yeah I'll try to get the monk on this path. |
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Jindael
Senior Scribe
USA
357 Posts |
Posted - 29 Mar 2005 : 00:50:30
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I think the complete warrior has the Tattooed monk prestige class. It also has the Kensi Prestige class, which allows you make your own weapon magical. (you spend XP, but you don't need feats, and it's only magic to you.) This weapon can be your fists.
Balance wise, the monk is supposed to stand alone. So if you give the monk a non-slotted item to increase their damage, it leaves their hands open for some other kind of gloves (like strength or dexterity adjustments). Personally, however, I don't see the problem with a Tattoo of the Searing Fist that gives a +1d6 fire damage bonus. Monks have always struck me as weak. (and annoying, for that matter.)
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 29 Mar 2005 : 02:40:31
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Originally posted by Jindael
I think the complete warrior has the Tattooed monk prestige class.
It does, page 82 to be exact. An online vendor also now offers this product for purchase as a PDF file for anyone wishing to use it to create Realms characters. |
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brooksy2005
Acolyte
USA
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Posted - 06 Dec 2005 : 03:27:22
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| Does anyone happen to have the stats on the actual prestige class of a tattooed monk i would like to make one but i am currently deployed and have no place to buy the book from and can't have it sent to me. So any help on this matter would be extremely thankfull.thanks |
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KnightErrantJR
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 06 Dec 2005 : 03:39:22
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I would love to help brooksy, but I don't want to upset the legal integrity of Candlekeep.
Just for the sake of discussion, Neverwinter Nights does have gloves in it similar to what has been described earlier in the thread. |
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Arivia
Great Reader
Canada
2965 Posts |
Posted - 06 Dec 2005 : 04:10:29
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quote:
Originally posted by Skeptic
In my current campaign, the player who plays a monk got an idea, he wants to have for his unarmed attack, the same kind of magic you can apply to melee magical weapons (flaming, bane, impact, etc.) Those special attacks would come from permenant magicals tatoos or something like it.
First, is there balance issues here ?
Second, how to incorporate this in the Realms, who could "make" such tatoos, etc..
Thanks for all inputs :)
You don't use magic tattooes for this, as they have an ingame effect already.
However, two items already exist that can do this-bracers of striking, which Thomas called out above, and an necklace of natural weapons, which can be found in Savage Species. If you've got neither of those sources, you can pull apart the amulet of mighty fists in the DMG3.5 and do it that way. |
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