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Darkheyr
Learned Scribe
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 Posted - 08 Mar 2005 : 15:05:42
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Gentlemen. Ladies.
As a personal project of mine, I've started working on an extensive compilation of any material concerning Shar or her clergy, no matter how remotely.
Thus I'd be very thankful for any and all information, sources or ideas you might have on that particular topic, especially about the Dark Lady's early history (The Shadevari, for example)
I'll also gladly integrate any non-canon tidbits you come up with and which strike my fancy... :D
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 08 Mar 2005 : 22:51:35
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| I suggest reading the novels Mistress of the Night or The Black Bouquet, which both feature followers of Shar very prominently. |
"Instead of asking why we sleep, it might make sense to ask why we wake. Perchance we live to dream. From that perspective, the sea of troubles we navigate in the workaday world might be the price we pay for admission to another night in the world of dreams."
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
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Gray Richardson
Master of Realmslore
USA
1291 Posts |
Posted - 09 Mar 2005 : 00:25:30
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I had some speculations about Shar and her origins in this thread here: http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?t=302068
The best information about her is in Faiths & Avatars. There is some good information about her and her church in Lords of Darkness. And Faiths and Pantheons will give you the most current 3E info about her. |
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George Krashos
Master of Realmslore
Australia
6666 Posts |
Posted - 09 Mar 2005 : 04:08:21
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Read also the second half of "The Temptation of Elminster".
-- George Krashos
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Darkheyr
Learned Scribe
264 Posts |
Posted - 09 Mar 2005 : 06:44:19
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| I'm still trying to get a copy of F&A... Things like that are annoying to get over here at times. But I'm working on it :) |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36805 Posts |
Posted - 09 Mar 2005 : 11:23:58
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quote:
Originally posted by Darkheyr
I'm still trying to get a copy of F&A... Things like that are annoying to get over here at times. But I'm working on it :)
Ah, good. That book and its companions are the best sources of lore about the gods that we've seen yet. |
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Gray Richardson
Master of Realmslore
USA
1291 Posts |
Posted - 10 Mar 2005 : 00:24:36
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For a small fee, you can download a legal .pdf copy of Faiths & Avatars as well as Demihuman Deities and Powers & Pantheons from one of WotC's licensed .pdf vendors www.RPGnow.com or www.SVGames.com.
They have many out-of-print 2nd edition modules and sourcebooks available. They are secure and safe to purchase from, and once you buy it you can be downloading and reading it within in minutes of your purchase.
If you don't mind reading them on your computer or printing out a paper copy for yourself, it is a great way to obtain hard to find Forgotten Realms lore. |
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DDH_101
Master of Realmslore
Canada
1272 Posts |
Posted - 10 Mar 2005 : 01:36:22
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| Darkheyr, the Lord of Darkness sourcebook also has a whole section detailed to the Church of Shar. |
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Darkheyr
Learned Scribe
264 Posts |
Posted - 10 Mar 2005 : 15:38:54
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Thanks Gray... I'll certainly look into that (after my next paycheck that is)
Or...hmm... I could simply leech it off my birthday presents next week....*rubs hands gleefully*
And aye DDH, I already got LoD. Handy thing to have to be sure, albeit I still prefer 2E source material... Less crunch, more fluff :) |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Alaundo
Head Moderator
United Kingdom
5695 Posts |
Posted - 10 Mar 2005 : 16:05:42
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quote:
Originally posted by The Sage
If you like, I can also send you the notes I made from the novel Mistress of the Night once I've converted them into a format that others can access...
Well met
I would also certainly be interested on seeing these notes, Sage. If ye don't mind of course. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31777 Posts |
Posted - 10 Mar 2005 : 16:14:24
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Not at all.
My technique is similar to that of Sirius Black, although I've elaborated on certain points for my own benefit.
Given my less than stellar reputation for always submitting the material I've promised in the past, I'll try to ensure that this little one doesn't fall by the wayside  .
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 10 Mar 2005 : 17:06:07
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quote:
Originally posted by The Sage
My technique is similar to that of Sirius Black, although I've elaborated on certain points for my own benefit.
I have a technique  Cool. I hope you are referring to my notes from Forsaken House. Otherwise...
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36805 Posts |
Posted - 11 Mar 2005 : 04:05:13
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quote:
Originally posted by The Sage
Whoa! 
Yes, I'm referring to your note-taking technique ONLY   . Anything else is just pure speculation on Wooly's behalf...  
How'd I get brought into this? |
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
USA
5517 Posts |
Posted - 11 Mar 2005 : 05:06:51
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quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
How'd I get brought into this?
Reputation. |
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Darkheyr
Learned Scribe
264 Posts |
Posted - 11 Mar 2005 : 06:33:26
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| I'd definitly like those notes, Sage :D |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Taurren
Acolyte
USA
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Posted - 11 Mar 2005 : 14:22:04
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Thank you oh wise Sage and to you Darkheyr.
Any imformation that brings further illumination into the secrets hidden within Shar's dark embrace would be greatly appreciated.
Both myself and my players have found her's to be the perfect hand that guides the puppet's string. |
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Alaundo
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Mumadar Ibn Huzal
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 12 Mar 2005 : 10:36:26
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Page 144 of Lost Empires of Faerun, under the heading "Delimbiyran" menitions the involvement of Lady Loss' clergy in the downfall of that realm (Kingdom of Man).
From the timeline on page 138/139:
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616 Year of the Enscorceled Kings: Delimbiyran, the human kingdom of Phalorn, claims all the lands of that realm and establishes a new aliance with the gnomes and halflings of the area. The new realm is called the Kingdom of Man
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697 Year of the Triton's Horn: Worshippers of Shar riot throughout the Sword Coast as the machinations of Lalondra, the Dark Mother, sweep away the power of the Dark Goddess clergy overnight. King Davyd of the Kingdom of Man dies in the tumult without an heir, and several kingdoms - including Calandor, Scathril, and Loravatha - break away.
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Darkheyr
Learned Scribe
264 Posts |
Posted - 13 Apr 2005 : 18:32:53
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I just finished Mistress of the Night.
I just plain love Variance  |
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cpthero2
Great Reader
USA
2286 Posts |
Posted - 18 Feb 2020 : 04:18:20
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Master Sage,
Could I ask well get a copy of those notes? :)
Best regards,
quote:
Originally posted by The Sage
Not at all.
My technique is similar to that of Sirius Black, although I've elaborated on certain points for my own benefit.
Given my less than stellar reputation for always submitting the material I've promised in the past, I'll try to ensure that this little one doesn't fall by the wayside .
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cpthero2
Great Reader
USA
2286 Posts |
Posted - 18 Feb 2020 : 04:21:16
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Master Sage,
Did those notes ever get included somewhere on the site?
Best regards,
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Originally posted by The Sage
I'll submit them for inclusion here at Candlekeep. Big Al can then make them a part of the next site update.
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