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Hymn
Senior Scribe
Sweden
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 Posted - 16 Feb 2005 : 02:15:37
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Where could one find info on Semphar except for The Horde box set and FR12 The Horde Campaign?
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Sauro moki kara ochiro - Even monkeys falls from trees.
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Brother Ezra
Learned Scribe
USA
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Posted - 16 Feb 2005 : 04:22:00
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The only thing I could find, aside from those you already mentioned, is a very small snippet of information on Murghom and Semphar in FR 10, Old Empires. Very scant information is provided.
Since Semphar was once either a part of Imaskar, or at least a protectorate, there might be some more information in Lost Empires of Faerun. Perhaps one of the lucky Australian or Germany scribes can check for us, since I'm still chewing my arm off waiting for this tome. |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
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Posted - 16 Feb 2005 : 05:01:04
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Originally posted by Brother Ezra
since I'm still chewing my arm off waiting for this tome.
Won't that make it difficult to read it and flip the pages?   |
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Hymn
Senior Scribe
Sweden
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Posted - 16 Feb 2005 : 05:49:55
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| Ok thanks Brother Ezra. And fear not Wooly I have allready considered that option and found out that toes are quiet good instruments for it as well. |
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George Krashos
Master of Realmslore
Australia
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Posted - 16 Feb 2005 : 11:58:15
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A very small 'adventure seed' for Semphar and Murghom is included in "Lost Empires" on p.71. No other information of note.
-- George Krashos
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Brother Ezra
Learned Scribe
USA
268 Posts |
Posted - 16 Feb 2005 : 13:32:45
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
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Originally posted by Brother Ezra
since I'm still chewing my arm off waiting for this tome.
Won't that make it difficult to read it and flip the pages?
Nah, my unseen servant does that for me. |
"Suffering is the touchstone of all spiritual growth."
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cpthero2
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 17 Feb 2020 : 03:42:38
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Master Krashos,
Are you aware of any intentions to develop Semphar in the near future? (15) years on and we're in the same situation as far as I can tell. It is surprising to me in light of the material available on Murghom.
I just love digging into the areas that have little so I can help fill in the holes in lore.
Best regards,
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Originally posted by George Krashos
A very small 'adventure seed' for Semphar and Murghom is included in "Lost Empires" on p.71. No other information of note.
-- George Krashos
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George Krashos
Master of Realmslore
Australia
6680 Posts |
Posted - 17 Feb 2020 : 04:28:14
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I very much doubt it but then again, I have no clue what the 5E D&D design team is planning for the Realms.
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
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Posted - 17 Feb 2020 : 04:45:46
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Originally posted by George Krashos
I very much doubt it but then again, I have no clue what the 5E D&D design team is planning for the Realms.
-- George Krashos
To be fair, I don't think they have a clue, either. |
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cpthero2
Great Reader
USA
2286 Posts |
Posted - 17 Feb 2020 : 05:06:23
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Master Krashos,
I hear more than one layer in that comment, and I thank you for it!
However, with your profound knowledge of the Realms, it honestly makes me extremely sad that you don't know.
Best regards,
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Originally posted by George Krashos
I very much doubt it but then again, I have no clue what the 5E D&D design team is planning for the Realms.
-- George Krashos
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cpthero2
Great Reader
USA
2286 Posts |
Posted - 17 Feb 2020 : 05:10:55
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Master Rupert,
haha...fair enough. I try to keep my comments regarding such matters withing the Code of Conduct, but it is hard. I'll just go along with your comment! ;)
Best regards,
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
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Originally posted by George Krashos
I very much doubt it but then again, I have no clue what the 5E D&D design team is planning for the Realms.
-- George Krashos
To be fair, I don't think they have a clue, either.
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TomCosta
Forgotten Realms Designer
USA
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Posted - 17 Feb 2020 : 14:11:18
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| In 4E Murghom and IIRC it was implied Semphar became dragon ruled kingdoms. |
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cpthero2
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 17 Feb 2020 : 16:35:02
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Mr. Costa,
Ahhh, well, since I was busy being extremely upset during 4e, and still a little during 5e, I definitely didn't know that.
So here is a question for you as a designer: how relevant do you feel any of that stuff would be for, in this case, Semphar during 4e, since WotC did a pathetic mea culpa with some of their partial reversal of changes made?
Best regards,
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Originally posted by TomCosta
In 4E Murghom and IIRC it was implied Semphar became dragon ruled kingdoms.
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TomCosta
Forgotten Realms Designer
USA
985 Posts |
Posted - 18 Feb 2020 : 01:06:22
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There are a handful of things that have remained from 4E (some I like, some I don't). For example, Airspur is still floating on an earthmote and the Crintri are still gone in Dambrath and replaced by shifters, but honestly, most of it is nebulous, allowing anyone wanting to play canon to do nearly whatever they want, particularly with more fringe areas.
As for Murghom and Semphar, they were never all that well defined, so a land with a bunch of dragon kings is fine with me, but I don't care that much. |
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cpthero2
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 18 Feb 2020 : 01:11:56
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Mr. Costa,
I have to say, I really wish they would have developed that more down in that area. I mean, the lake, the trade economics I read a bit about for that area were quite cool between Semlirhol and Jurash, and just its geographic location relevant to other countries makes it really interesting.
Best regards,
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Originally posted by TomCosta
There are a handful of things that have remained from 4E (some I like, some I don't). For example, Airspur is still floating on an earthmote and the Crintri are still gone in Dambrath and replaced by shifters, but honestly, most of it is nebulous, allowing anyone wanting to play canon to do nearly whatever they want, particularly with more fringe areas.
As for Murghom and Semphar, they were never all that well defined, so a land with a bunch of dragon kings is fine with me, but I don't care that much.
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Dalor Darden
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 18 Feb 2020 : 03:15:01
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| Wasn’t Semphar detailed a bit in a module? Was it FRA1 Storm Rider? |
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cpthero2
Great Reader
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Posted - 18 Feb 2020 : 03:50:22
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Great Reader Darden,
Impressive recollection. I wouldn't say it was detailed, but it was mentioned. In "Event 15", it was stated that:
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If asked why Hubadai wants to go through Ra-Khati, Baga Choki gladly explains that Hubadai's army has just conquered Semphar. Now he must attack Khazari#146;s southern flank to rejoin the rest of his father's army there. Hubadai intends no
harm to Ra-Khati. (FRA1 Storm Riders, p.62)
Best regards,
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Originally posted by Dalor Darden
Wasn’t Semphar detailed a bit in a module? Was it FRA1 Storm Rider?
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