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Erik Scott de Bie
Forgotten Realms Author
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 Posted - 15 Feb 2011 : 07:19:14
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Hmm. Another option is ebooks, if you have a reader. I believe at least some of the Waterdeep books have made the digital leap. Check it out on Amazon.
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Erik Scott de Bie
'Tis easier to destroy than to create.
Author of a number of Realms novels (GHOSTWALKER, DEPTHS OF MADNESS, and the SHADOWBANE series), contributor to the NEVERWINTER CAMPAIGN GUIDE and SHADOWFELL: GLOOMWROUGHT AND BEYOND, Twitch DM of the Dungeon Scrawlers, currently playing "The Westgate Irregulars" |
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Alystra Illianniis
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Erik Scott de Bie
Forgotten Realms Author
USA
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Posted - 15 Feb 2011 : 22:04:51
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Completely understand. Hang in there!
Cheers |
Erik Scott de Bie
'Tis easier to destroy than to create.
Author of a number of Realms novels (GHOSTWALKER, DEPTHS OF MADNESS, and the SHADOWBANE series), contributor to the NEVERWINTER CAMPAIGN GUIDE and SHADOWFELL: GLOOMWROUGHT AND BEYOND, Twitch DM of the Dungeon Scrawlers, currently playing "The Westgate Irregulars" |
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sfdragon
Great Reader
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Posted - 15 Feb 2011 : 22:20:40
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| so tell me, are there any obscure plans to raise Shadowbane to godhood?? |
why is being a wizard like being a drow? both are likely to find a dagger in the back from a rival or one looking to further his own goals, fame and power
My FR fan fiction
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Erik Scott de Bie
Forgotten Realms Author
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Posted - 15 Feb 2011 : 22:31:26
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Originally posted by sfdragon
so tell me, are there any obscure plans to raise Shadowbane to godhood??
I don't know . . . is that how it looks? 
Cheers |
Erik Scott de Bie
'Tis easier to destroy than to create.
Author of a number of Realms novels (GHOSTWALKER, DEPTHS OF MADNESS, and the SHADOWBANE series), contributor to the NEVERWINTER CAMPAIGN GUIDE and SHADOWFELL: GLOOMWROUGHT AND BEYOND, Twitch DM of the Dungeon Scrawlers, currently playing "The Westgate Irregulars" |
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sfdragon
Great Reader
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Posted - 15 Feb 2011 : 23:35:32
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| kind of... its not like Cyric was all that powerful when he rose to the ocassion |
why is being a wizard like being a drow? both are likely to find a dagger in the back from a rival or one looking to further his own goals, fame and power
My FR fan fiction
Magister's GAmbit
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The Red Walker
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 16 Feb 2011 : 01:45:18
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Erik,
Since there is a little buzz in the novel section that Rich Baker is working on a new Jack Ravenwild novel(according to his wotc blog)...
I was curious, have you read City of Ravens? If so care to share your thoughts? Seems like he is a favorite character of a lot of long standing realms fans, and would be a sweet thing to have something followed up on. |
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"We need men who can dream of things that never were." -
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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Posted - 16 Feb 2011 : 01:54:41
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Originally posted by sfdragon
kind of... its not like Cyric was all that powerful when he rose to the ocassion
I wasn't aware he had yet risen to the occasion.  |
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The Red Walker
Great Reader
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Posted - 16 Feb 2011 : 02:14:02
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Originally posted by Erik Scott de Bie
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Originally posted by sfdragon
so tell me, are there any obscure plans to raise Shadowbane to godhood??
I don't know . . . is that how it looks?
Cheers
Must not be obscure enough? |
A little nonsense now and then, relished by the wisest men - Willy Wonka
"We need men who can dream of things that never were." -
John F. Kennedy, speech in Dublin, Ireland, June 28, 1963
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Alystra Illianniis
Great Reader
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sfdragon
Great Reader
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Posted - 16 Feb 2011 : 05:07:07
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
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Originally posted by sfdragon
kind of... its not like Cyric was all that powerful when he rose to the ocassion
I wasn't aware he had yet risen to the occasion.
we all know he took the opprotunity and ran with it, mad with power and ambition all the way.... and look where it got him.
Tied to the supreme torliet for a 1000 years.
what a case of diareah he has.... |
why is being a wizard like being a drow? both are likely to find a dagger in the back from a rival or one looking to further his own goals, fame and power
My FR fan fiction
Magister's GAmbit
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Erik Scott de Bie
Forgotten Realms Author
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Posted - 16 Feb 2011 : 15:12:45
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Originally posted by The Red Walker
Erik,
Since there is a little buzz in the novel section that Rich Baker is working on a new Jack Ravenwild novel(according to his wotc blog)...
I was curious, have you read City of Ravens? If so care to share your thoughts? Seems like he is a favorite character of a lot of long standing realms fans, and would be a sweet thing to have something followed up on.
I have indeed read City of Ravens, though I did so when it came out (which was a long time ago), so I don't remember it very well. I do recall liking the book quite a bit. I would be happy to see Rich produce such a novel--Jack has lots of potential for the more personal stories that I prefer to big Realms-wide events.
Cheers |
Erik Scott de Bie
'Tis easier to destroy than to create.
Author of a number of Realms novels (GHOSTWALKER, DEPTHS OF MADNESS, and the SHADOWBANE series), contributor to the NEVERWINTER CAMPAIGN GUIDE and SHADOWFELL: GLOOMWROUGHT AND BEYOND, Twitch DM of the Dungeon Scrawlers, currently playing "The Westgate Irregulars" |
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The Red Walker
Great Reader
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Posted - 16 Feb 2011 : 19:39:53
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How much work and time did you spend on Shadowbane before you were contracted to write it?
Or more to be more general, I was Just curious how deep you get into a project with out knowing if it will ever be published? |
A little nonsense now and then, relished by the wisest men - Willy Wonka
"We need men who can dream of things that never were." -
John F. Kennedy, speech in Dublin, Ireland, June 28, 1963
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Erik Scott de Bie
Forgotten Realms Author
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Posted - 16 Feb 2011 : 20:44:55
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Originally posted by The Red Walker
Erik,
How much work and time did you spend on Shadowbane before you were contracted to write it?
Or more to be more general, I was Just curious how deep you get into a project with out knowing if it will ever be published?
It varies. I had some ideas for the long-term Shadowbane story, but very little on this particular novel. I developed the story and central conflict basically on the drive home from our planning meeting and wrote an outline over the next week or so.
I am a long-term planner, generally. Since even from before Downshadow, I've been jotting down ideas for a number of novels about these characters--at least 6 after Shadowbane this fall. It's just a matter of getting them all published, eventually!
Cheers
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Erik Scott de Bie
'Tis easier to destroy than to create.
Author of a number of Realms novels (GHOSTWALKER, DEPTHS OF MADNESS, and the SHADOWBANE series), contributor to the NEVERWINTER CAMPAIGN GUIDE and SHADOWFELL: GLOOMWROUGHT AND BEYOND, Twitch DM of the Dungeon Scrawlers, currently playing "The Westgate Irregulars" |
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The Red Walker
Great Reader
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Posted - 20 Mar 2011 : 20:18:38
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Erik,
I asked this of Ed and wanted your take on it as well....
Any chance that bardic magic " make a comeback" in 4e ( or anytime soon)?
I am re-reading Elaines tales with Danilo, and had forgotten just how much I enjoy a good Bard's Tale  (what a great intro to computer gaming that was for me on that ole commodore 64)
I love the way Elaine handles bards, but would be eager indeed to see it handled by the bearded giver of great hugs.
I think it is also something that our young friend Erik could really handle as well(I think I will pose him the same question as well!)
I think the realms could be missing out on some great stories.
Thanks! |
A little nonsense now and then, relished by the wisest men - Willy Wonka
"We need men who can dream of things that never were." -
John F. Kennedy, speech in Dublin, Ireland, June 28, 1963
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Erik Scott de Bie
Forgotten Realms Author
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Posted - 20 Mar 2011 : 21:02:35
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Originally posted by The Red Walker
Any chance that bardic magic " make a comeback" in 4e ( or anytime soon)?
Well, bards *do* exist in 4e (they're a base class in the PHB2), and they've got a fair amount of love from the designers. Meaning the possibility is definitely there.
I actually have not one but TWO bard characters in my forthcoming novel, Shadowbane, though one is more thief/rogue than bard, and neither of them is particularly central. One of those bards reappears in the FR novel I'm starting writing tomorrow, however, and I plan on him being fairly important.
I agree with your ultimate point as I see it, which is that a bard-centered story would be quite welcome.
Good on you to mention Danilo--I continue my trend of having the characters in my 4e FR novels quote pieces of his justly-famous poetry.
Cheers |
Erik Scott de Bie
'Tis easier to destroy than to create.
Author of a number of Realms novels (GHOSTWALKER, DEPTHS OF MADNESS, and the SHADOWBANE series), contributor to the NEVERWINTER CAMPAIGN GUIDE and SHADOWFELL: GLOOMWROUGHT AND BEYOND, Twitch DM of the Dungeon Scrawlers, currently playing "The Westgate Irregulars" |
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The Red Walker
Great Reader
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Posted - 20 Mar 2011 : 22:32:39
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Originally posted by Erik Scott de Bie
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Originally posted by The Red Walker
Any chance that bardic magic " make a comeback" in 4e ( or anytime soon)?
Well, bards *do* exist in 4e (they're a base class in the PHB2), and they've got a fair amount of love from the designers. Meaning the possibility is definitely there.
I actually have not one but TWO bard characters in my forthcoming novel, Shadowbane, though one is more thief/rogue than bard, and neither of them is particularly central. One of those bards reappears in the FR novel I'm starting writing tomorrow, however, and I plan on him being fairly important.
I agree with your ultimate point as I see it, which is that a bard-centered story would be quite welcome.
Good on you to mention Danilo--I continue my trend of having the characters in my 4e FR novels quote pieces of his justly-famous poetry.
Cheers
How do I do a smilley taking a bow?
Not one but two ehh? Well I did put Shadowbane on my wish list recently, maybe I need to bump it to the top? And interesting to think one survives to the next novel and becomes a "playa"!
Quoting Danilo is just awesome of you. Now if you could work in a reference to Amy Lee's lyrics and kill me most horribly in your novel...it would be the ultimate in Realms fiction
P.S. Any thing Bars and Derst-ish in either or both works?
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A little nonsense now and then, relished by the wisest men - Willy Wonka
"We need men who can dream of things that never were." -
John F. Kennedy, speech in Dublin, Ireland, June 28, 1963
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Erik Scott de Bie
Forgotten Realms Author
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Posted - 20 Mar 2011 : 23:10:47
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Originally posted by The Red Walker
How do I do a smilley taking a bow?
I approve this request. 
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Not one but two ehh? Well I did put Shadowbane on my wish list recently, maybe I need to bump it to the top?
Indeed! I mean, well, sure, if you WANT to . . .
I'm holding out hope we'll have copies at GenCon, and you can get a signed one from me there. No promises, though!
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Quoting Danilo is just awesome of you. Now if you could work in a reference to Amy Lee's lyrics and kill me most horribly in your novel...it would be the ultimate in Realms fiction
So basically, you want Twilight in a snow-white queen getup to murder you while you quote Thann poetry to laud her beauty? Hmm, that can be arranged. 
(Ironically, an Amy Lee song is currently playing on Pandora. A certain shadowy moon elf must have some role in this next novel . . .)
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P.S. Any thing Bars and Derst-ish in either or both works?
Well, you never know. I bury mysteries deep at times.
Cheers |
Erik Scott de Bie
'Tis easier to destroy than to create.
Author of a number of Realms novels (GHOSTWALKER, DEPTHS OF MADNESS, and the SHADOWBANE series), contributor to the NEVERWINTER CAMPAIGN GUIDE and SHADOWFELL: GLOOMWROUGHT AND BEYOND, Twitch DM of the Dungeon Scrawlers, currently playing "The Westgate Irregulars" |
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The Red Walker
Great Reader
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Posted - 21 Mar 2011 : 00:22:21
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Originally posted by Erik Scott de Bie
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Originally posted by The Red Walker
How do I do a smilley taking a bow?
I approve this request.
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Not one but two ehh? Well I did put Shadowbane on my wish list recently, maybe I need to bump it to the top?
Indeed! I mean, well, sure, if you WANT to . . .
I'm holding out hope we'll have copies at GenCon, and you can get a signed one from me there. No promises, though!
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Quoting Danilo is just awesome of you. Now if you could work in a reference to Amy Lee's lyrics and kill me most horribly in your novel...it would be the ultimate in Realms fiction
So basically, you want Twilight in a snow-white queen getup to murder you while you quote Thann poetry to laud her beauty? Hmm, that can be arranged.
(Ironically, an Amy Lee song is currently playing on Pandora. A certain shadowy moon elf must have some role in this next novel . . .)
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P.S. Any thing Bars and Derst-ish in either or both works?
Well, you never know. I bury mysteries deep at times.
Cheers
Well if it's not too much trouble |
A little nonsense now and then, relished by the wisest men - Willy Wonka
"We need men who can dream of things that never were." -
John F. Kennedy, speech in Dublin, Ireland, June 28, 1963
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
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Posted - 21 Mar 2011 : 00:58:57
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Originally posted by Erik Scott de Bie
I actually have not one but TWO bard characters in my forthcoming novel, Shadowbane, though one is more thief/rogue than bard, and neither of them is particularly central. One of those bards reappears in the FR novel I'm starting writing tomorrow, however, and I plan on him being fairly important.
This, coupled with what else I just learned about your new novel, has profoundly altered my mood [for the positive] on a Monday morning. You've my great and eternal thanks, my friend.
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Good on you to mention Danilo--I continue my trend of having the characters in my 4e FR novels quote pieces of his justly-famous poetry.
Heh. That does remind me of future mutant characters in the Marvel Universe, quoting the Beast from the "Wit and Wisdom of Henry McCoy."
I've speculated on the possibility of doing something similar for Danilo [both in-game and for my own reading enjoyment] -- by compiling curious phrases and such that he's uttered in the past, along with all his musically-related tidbits. Characters and NPCs could refer to it in my games.
You know, I may just add this to my "To-Do" list. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
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Posted - 21 Mar 2011 : 01:09:05
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Originally posted by Erik Scott de Bie
So basically, you want Twilight in a snow-white queen getup to murder you while you quote Thann poetry to laud her beauty? Hmm, that can be arranged.
Oooh! I don't think that I could add anything to this, other than have the deathblow delivered by Betrayal. |
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The Red Walker
Great Reader
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Posted - 21 Mar 2011 : 01:13:38
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Originally posted by The Sage
quote:
Originally posted by Erik Scott de Bie
I actually have not one but TWO bard characters in my forthcoming novel, Shadowbane, though one is more thief/rogue than bard, and neither of them is particularly central. One of those bards reappears in the FR novel I'm starting writing tomorrow, however, and I plan on him being fairly important.
This, coupled with what else I just learned about your new novel, has profoundly altered my mood [for the positive] on a Monday morning. You've my great and eternal thanks, my friend.
And what did we just learn about it? |
A little nonsense now and then, relished by the wisest men - Willy Wonka
"We need men who can dream of things that never were." -
John F. Kennedy, speech in Dublin, Ireland, June 28, 1963
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Erik Scott de Bie
Forgotten Realms Author
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Posted - 21 Mar 2011 : 01:24:06
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Originally posted by The Red Walker
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Originally posted by The Sage
This, coupled with what else I just learned about your new novel, has profoundly altered my mood [for the positive] on a Monday morning. You've my great and eternal thanks, my friend.
And what did we just learn about it?
Probably just this:
Westgate.
That is all!
Cheers
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Erik Scott de Bie
'Tis easier to destroy than to create.
Author of a number of Realms novels (GHOSTWALKER, DEPTHS OF MADNESS, and the SHADOWBANE series), contributor to the NEVERWINTER CAMPAIGN GUIDE and SHADOWFELL: GLOOMWROUGHT AND BEYOND, Twitch DM of the Dungeon Scrawlers, currently playing "The Westgate Irregulars" |
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The Red Walker
Great Reader
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Posted - 21 Mar 2011 : 01:34:32
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quote:
Originally posted by Erik Scott de Bie
quote:
Originally posted by The Red Walker
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Originally posted by The Sage
This, coupled with what else I just learned about your new novel, has profoundly altered my mood [for the positive] on a Monday morning. You've my great and eternal thanks, my friend.
And what did we just learn about it?
Probably just this:
Westgate.
That is all!
Cheers
Are there also wretched son of dogs in Westgate now as well that need taken care of?(or are the same breed that infests Luskan) |
A little nonsense now and then, relished by the wisest men - Willy Wonka
"We need men who can dream of things that never were." -
John F. Kennedy, speech in Dublin, Ireland, June 28, 1963
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Erik Scott de Bie
Forgotten Realms Author
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Posted - 21 Mar 2011 : 01:44:17
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Originally posted by The Red Walker
Are there also wretched son of dogs in Westgate now as well that need taken care of?(or are the same breed that infests Luskan)
Well, quoth Gedrin Shadowbane:
"Shadow and darkness must be pursued in every form, through every street, down every path, no matter how dark, until it is wiped from the world."
Cheers |
Erik Scott de Bie
'Tis easier to destroy than to create.
Author of a number of Realms novels (GHOSTWALKER, DEPTHS OF MADNESS, and the SHADOWBANE series), contributor to the NEVERWINTER CAMPAIGN GUIDE and SHADOWFELL: GLOOMWROUGHT AND BEYOND, Twitch DM of the Dungeon Scrawlers, currently playing "The Westgate Irregulars" |
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The Red Walker
Great Reader
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Posted - 21 Mar 2011 : 01:52:51
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Originally posted by Erik Scott de Bie
quote:
Originally posted by The Red Walker
Are there also wretched son of dogs in Westgate now as well that need taken care of?(or are the same breed that infests Luskan)
Well, quoth Gedrin Shadowbane:
"Shadow and darkness must be pursued in every form, through every street, down every path, no matter how dark, until it is wiped from the world."
Cheers
Sweet!
The Fire Knives should could use a little justice served up whoop ass style. |
A little nonsense now and then, relished by the wisest men - Willy Wonka
"We need men who can dream of things that never were." -
John F. Kennedy, speech in Dublin, Ireland, June 28, 1963
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althen artren
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 21 Mar 2011 : 03:22:40
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So Erik, if I wanted to ask you something, what would
be your Realms area of expertise? |
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Erik Scott de Bie
Forgotten Realms Author
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4598 Posts |
Posted - 21 Mar 2011 : 14:56:42
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Originally posted by althen artren
So Erik, if I wanted to ask you something, what would
be your Realms area of expertise?
Good question, Althen. I know what places of the Realms I particularly *like* and which ones I know more about than others, but I've never thought about it in quite those terms.
I'll turn that question back on my readers--based on my work, what would YOU call my Realms area of expertise? (i.e. where do you think I've best captured the feel and lore of a place?)
Most of my fiction/design stuff has taken place in the North/Savage Frontier (Waterdeep, Silver Marches, Neverwinter, Luskan, etc.) and the Dragon Coast (Westgate, Elversult, etc.) regions.
Cheers |
Erik Scott de Bie
'Tis easier to destroy than to create.
Author of a number of Realms novels (GHOSTWALKER, DEPTHS OF MADNESS, and the SHADOWBANE series), contributor to the NEVERWINTER CAMPAIGN GUIDE and SHADOWFELL: GLOOMWROUGHT AND BEYOND, Twitch DM of the Dungeon Scrawlers, currently playing "The Westgate Irregulars" |
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The Red Walker
Great Reader
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Posted - 21 Mar 2011 : 20:23:28
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Originally posted by Erik Scott de Bie
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Originally posted by althen artren
So Erik, if I wanted to ask you something, what would
be your Realms area of expertise?
Good question, Althen. I know what places of the Realms I particularly *like* and which ones I know more about than others, but I've never thought about it in quite those terms.
I'll turn that question back on my readers--based on my work, what would YOU call my Realms area of expertise? (i.e. where do you think I've best captured the feel and lore of a place?)
Most of my fiction/design stuff has taken place in the North/Savage Frontier (Waterdeep, Silver Marches, Neverwinter, Luskan, etc.) and the Dragon Coast (Westgate, Elversult, etc.) regions.
Cheers
Hmm...you seem to have a good pen for dark places underground as well as Back alleys and out of the eye spots in Waterdeep.
Seems like your expertise my lye "off the grid" so to speak.
Also if one wants to discuss how music can influences writing your my go to guy , aslo if someone were interested in how to write vividly, makeing the action flow like a movie, your the man for that as well.
P.S. Your the expert on how Goliaths and Elves relate as well |
A little nonsense now and then, relished by the wisest men - Willy Wonka
"We need men who can dream of things that never were." -
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The Red Walker
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Posted - 21 Mar 2011 : 20:30:01
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Originally posted by The Red Walker
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Originally posted by Erik Scott de Bie
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Originally posted by althen artren
So Erik, if I wanted to ask you something, what would
be your Realms area of expertise?
Good question, Althen. I know what places of the Realms I particularly *like* and which ones I know more about than others, but I've never thought about it in quite those terms.
I'll turn that question back on my readers--based on my work, what would YOU call my Realms area of expertise? (i.e. where do you think I've best captured the feel and lore of a place?)
Most of my fiction/design stuff has taken place in the North/Savage Frontier (Waterdeep, Silver Marches, Neverwinter, Luskan, etc.) and the Dragon Coast (Westgate, Elversult, etc.) regions.
Cheers
Hmm...you seem to have a good pen for dark places underground as well as Back alleys and out of the eye spots in Waterdeep.
Seems like your expertise my lye "off the grid" so to speak.
Also if one wants to discuss how music can influences writing your my go to guy , aslo if someone were interested in how to write vividly, makeing the action flow like a movie, your the man for that as well.
P.S. Your the expert on how Goliaths and Elves relate as well
P.S.S. Now that you've asked...and I try to quantify your work....
it seems to me like your on hell of a tightrope walker. What I mean is you do so well write novles, the way I prefer to see them written. You kinda take some stuff on the fringes of whats known, throw in a dash of the known and ...Bam..you have a great novel that doesnt shake the whole realms, while still telling a hell of a yarn! |
A little nonsense now and then, relished by the wisest men - Willy Wonka
"We need men who can dream of things that never were." -
John F. Kennedy, speech in Dublin, Ireland, June 28, 1963
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