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                      |  Posted - 07 Sep 2005 :  02:37:13         
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                      | quote:Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
 
 
 quote:Originally posted by khorne
 
 I don`t really think force gray is appropriate for something in the realms. It sounds like some marvel comic.
 
 
 
 It does sound like a super-team, but that's why it is a cool name. I can understand why it was changed, but "Gray Hands" is a pretty lame name, in my opinion.
 
 
 
 Aghh
 
 Force Grey sounds like something you'd name a WW2 Naval Taskforce or an Army Battle Group, it doesnt sound very realmsy at all
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                      | Recently scared up some old files from LANDS OF INTRIGUE work and as I can never remember how much of my notes makes it onto the page, I figured I'd just dump a few of them here. 
 For those with interests in the religious houses in Amn, Tethyr, and Erlkazar (in my notes originally as Aurkazar, apparently), here's something to gnaw on for the weekend:
 
 Temples of Lands of Intrigue noted from Faiths & Avatars (* = New)
 
 Amn
 Arbalest's House            	Milil   	Athkatla, Amn
 Black Spires of the Maiden	Loviatar	Ishla, Amn
 Dark Embrace	                Shar	        Esmeltaran, Amn
 Duskwood Dell	                Eldath	        Eshpurta, Amn
 Goldspires	                Waukeen         Athkatla, Amn
 Gulf of Storms          	Talos   	Eshpurta, Amn
 Harvest House           	Chauntea	Amn
 Towers of Willful Suffering	Ilmater 	Eshpurta, Amn
 ? (3 new temples)       	Cyric   	Amn
 ? (major temple)        	Loviatar	Athkatla, Amn
 ? (former center of worship)	Selune  	Myth Lharast, Amn
 
 Tethyr
 Barakmordin *           	Triad (ITT)	Ithal Pass
 Chevangard *            	Helm   	Survale Ford (Chevan's tomb)
 Fortress Faithful       	Tyr	Zazesspur
 Gorge of the Fallen Idol	?		Tethyr
 Old Oak Dell            	Silvanus	Forest of Tethir
 Open Gauntlet           	Torm	Darrommar
 Shipsgrave Tower	Umberlee	Velen
 Spires Against the Stars	Beshaba	Saradush
 ? (urban temple; WiT)	Ilmater	Zazesspur
 (Abbey of) St. Alaric['s] *	Ilmater	Morninggold
 
 Aurkazar
 Soaring Spirit	Deneir	Aurkazar
 
 Barakmordin means "the Shielding Mountains" but refers to the three corner towers of the fortified abbey that rests at the Ithal Road where it splits to go to Ithal Pass or Saradush. Its individual towers each act as a temple to the individual gods, while the attendant buildings and the central keep are the collective temple for the Triad and the marshalling area for the Knights Kuldar of Barakmordin (holy warriors of all three faiths whose vows to heal the sick, help the weak, and avenge those harmed by injustice).
 [[worth pulling into area stuff]]   Barakmordin was founded during the reign of King Samyte the Martyr in 839 DR as a partially-fortified garrison and shrine for Torm. Seventy years later, the complex was damaged by an orc horde out of the Omlarandin Mountains to the east. With the reconstruction, the three corner towers were added for stability. In 1070, during the year-long reign of Teremir II, a shrine to Ilmater was also adopted within Barakmordin to aid the steadfast Tormish who remained loyal to the Lions' Dynasty and Alemander, brother to the slain King Coram II. The thanks of King Alemander I became royal donations to the orders, and Barakmordin gained its outer walls and a new central keep, all of which stand 300 years later. Lastly, the worship of Tyr built slowly here, but the valiant stand of a quartet of Tyr-sworn paladins during a monster attack from the Forest of Mir proved Tyr's worth to the insular orders here. By 1198 DR, Barakmordin became what it is today: a tripartite religious abbey and garrison.
 
 Chevangard is the stone temple complex with a separate tomb for one of Velen's greatest priest-heroes, Chevan, who gave his life that King Strohm I might live to overthrow Amahl VII, last emperor of Shoon, and restore Tethyr.
 [place in area text]   This post was nearly destroyed by banditry and usurper lords during the Interregnum. It was temporarily held for six months by Harfourt's Raiders (a bandit gang that troubled the area from 1355-1358). By the work of the remaining Helm knights and the Order of the Silver Chalice, Chevangard was restored to the order's rule and the temple was resanctified by 1359.
 
 Abbey of St. Alaric is nestled in the hills east of Morninggold Keep, and this abbey is a library for medical knowledge. Like all in Tethyr, its official title is "Abbey/Hospice/Convent/Priory of" and the saint's name for which it was founded. St Alaric's is the most scholarly of the ten locations founded by the order of Ilmater.
 
 The ten cloisters of Ilmater were established over the past 400 years, and three of which came into being during the Alemandrian Interregnum. They are placed throughout the country such that a pilgrim/devotee can, with some effort, travel from one to another within a day's ride. While the commoners see no distinction among them other than their services and age, some are more prestigious within the church simply by their famous founders or associated saints.
 
 The ten cloisters of Ilmater are, in order of age:
 1)	Convent of St. Rhynda: [385 yrs old; est. in 985] County Vintor; nuns' house, training area for specialty priests
 2)	Missionary of St. Cabram: [353 yrs old; est. in 1017] County Elemetar; facility for missionaries (w/port).
 3)	Monastery of St. Toramir: [320 yrs old; est. in 1050] County Monteshi; school, orphanage, paladins' garrison
 4)	Seminary of St. Ostus: [281 yrs old; est. in 1088] County Rivershire; general education school, scriptorium
 5)	Convent of St. Teresa: [244 yrs old; est. in 1126] County Alonmarch; school for midwives; one of few that also teaches nonhuman medicine.
 6)	Abbey of St. Alaric: [240 yrs old; est. in 1130] County Morninggold; advanced/senior school and library, training area for specialty priests.
 7)	Hospice of St. Corin: [128 yrs old; est. in 1242] County Surkazar; hospital & garrison vs. Forest of Mir
 8)	Cloister of St. Ramedar: [18 yrs old; est. in 1352] County Fyraven; cloistered place of penitence & sanitarium.
 9)	Monastery of St. Domin: [9 yrs old; est. in 1361] County Starspur; fortified orphanage, school, shipbuilders
 10)	Priory of St. Silvyr: [4 yrs old; est. in 1366] County Spellshire; elf/human allied monastic school, scriptorium
 
 In terms of religious/interchurch hierarchy/prestige, here are the rankings of the cloisters and why:
 1)	Convent of St. Teresa: Named after the Queen who healed many at a pool near where the convent stands.
 2)	Convent of St. Rhynda: Rhynda Tornamul, first native priestess/saint of Ilmater founded this convent.
 3)	Abbey of St. Alaric: St. Alaric was ˝ Calishite/Tethyrian and a scholar; he saved the life of the wizard-hero Bowgentle who helped him found this abbey & library.
 4)	Monastery of St. Toramir: named for short-lived and later sainted paladin king and a band of paladins has always supported the school/orphanage since its founding.
 5)	Seminary of St. Ostus: Best scriptorium outside of Candlekeep and Silverymoon.
 6)	Priory of St. Silvyr: First Ilmatran monastery established in the name of a nonhuman saint; noted for teaching use of rare herbs only found in Tethir forest.
 7)	Missionary of St. Cabram: Founded by former missionary from Suzail (Cabram) and Prince Haedrak I.
 8)	Hospice of St. Corin: Hospital founded by Saint Corin the Pious. Operates closely with Barakmordin.
 9)	Monastery of St. Domin: Apprenticed shipbuilders from this orphanage creating good ships for missionaries. St. Domin a native shipbuilder from Velen before converting.
 10)	Cloister of St. Ramedar: Renowned as a secure prison for despots and tyrants (to become penitent at the hands of those who protect the down-trodden); corrupt first years as prison for political prisoners of Zazesspur's council; new Warden Vicar is pious and true to crown.
 
 Temple to Mystra in Purple Hills of Tethyr; founded during Nishan II's reign for his wife. Expanded during the Shoon Traitorum. Destroyed with the fall of the Shoon Empire, since Emperor Amahl VII hid out there in his new towers. All but original temple destroyed by Strohm I; built up during Strohm II's reign but Bhaal worshipers on holy crusade destroyed few remaining wizards and King Samyte here in 841. Worship moved away to 9 Star Towers in eastern county, rather than stay among halfling vineyards and rebuild. Now a fallen, abandoned building, with much stone used as walls and bldgs among halfling towns.
 
 Temple to Mystra in County Spellshire; Nine Star Towers of Mystra was the main temple of a complex with a chapter house, library, monastery, scriptorium, and two schools, one of general education and one of magic. Destroyed/Burned during Interregnum.........
 
 
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                      | And a little bit more, but too much for one post....the REALLY OLD religious sites of Lands of Intrigue.  
 STONE CIRCLES
 Stone circles for primitive and ancient worship; sometimes still used by travelers, druids, et al. There is only one complete stone circle within the areas of Amn, Tethyr, and Erlkazar, though there are fourteen ruined stone circles throughout the three countries.
 May have been more----Shoon Emperors had many destroyed for their stone which became either palace walls or road stone.........
 
 The 15 circles are:
 4 in Amn: near Purskul, between Amnwater and Keczulla, between Keshla and Torbold, west of Ishla; 4 in Erlkazar: NE Impresk Lake, SE of Llorbauth, among east foothills of Kuldin Peaks, directly east of Saradush
 
 Standing Stones Names
 
 A) The Seventeen Sentries:  Along South Fork between Purskul & Amnwater; huge ring atop hill with village at foot of hill.
 
 A) Waukeen's Circle:  roundish.....like 5 Silvers, but 7, slightly more oval, and set in high hills overlooking Imnescar
 
 A) The Five Silvers/Five Coins:  Five roundish marble slabs
 
 A) The Giants' Dance:  Along the Ridge half way between Amnwater and Keczulla, ruined:  with all but two stones fallen over, three cracked asunder
 
 T) Calimban Knoll:  from Calim's Bane, or held off Calishite attack in 1st Empire.
 
 T) The Giants' Ring:  Valashar, 20 m. SE of Riatavin
 
 T) Cairn Wheel:  Noromath, within forest of tethir; still used by druids.
 
 T) The Standing Stones of Suldell:  Spellshire's standing stones....near forest line...
 
 T) The Nanarch's Ring:  Hazamarch, 10 m E of Sulduskoon's headwaters and garrison for (Knightly Order of Innocents?) ("Nine Arches Ring")
 
 T) The Nine Ladies:  Uluran; in foothills
 
 T) The Seven Stars:  Purple Hills, by Myratma; ded. to Selune, used sometimes by halflings as sacred place to Sheela Peryroyl
 
 
 E) Myrjala's Circle:  Ahlarkhem; five miles east of Duhlnarim, 1 m. south of road; The whole standing stones of Myrjala's Circle just southwest of Impresk Lake are still used today by the faithful of Mystra; allegedly, any priest of Mystra who dies within the circle forever attends to the circle and adds ghostly prayers. This legend is why this circle, outside of all others, remains inviolate----it is a holy place for Mystra and the ghosts keep all desecrators away, and protect any wizard who sleeps herein as if it were a druids' grove.
 
 E) The Bluestones:  Tanistan; 30 m SE of 5 Spears Hold; one fallen slab out of 14 has mysterious footprints in it---one for each race, though amidst a mass of footprints, incl. giants' and dragons' tracks. Legend: If you approach in bare feet with eyes closed and your foot fits cleanly into a footprint here, you'll have safe travel for a year.
 
 E) Cumber's Cairn:  Among foothills south of Soaring Spirit; now, with a great crystal set in a steeple of SSpt, a refracted light beam settles on the standing:  of Cumber's Cairn and people say that they should be able to learn things unknown within the blessed light of Deneir. Used to be simple place marker and place safe from monsters at night.
 
 E) Kammarthorden:  Carrelath, north of Golconda; ("Kammar's Bones"---great giant slain; allegedly his bones)
 
 I don't remember--did all of these make it through the edit stages or am I dropping old/new material in here for y'all?
 
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                      |  Posted - 11 Sep 2005 :  00:22:14       
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                      | quote:Originally posted by Alaundo
 
 Well met
 
 This is the type of lore that i'm looking for, Steven
  
 Would ye mind if I made room on a shelf here at Candlekeep to display this fine work?
 
 
 
 I snagged it already for my files, which will be on your site, if someone ever puts up my misc html...... Cracks his whip at Alaundo.
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                      |  Posted - 11 Sep 2005 :  00:36:28         
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                      | quote:Originally posted by Alaundo
 
 Well met
 
 This is the type of lore that i'm looking for, Steven
  
 Would ye mind if I made room on a shelf here at Candlekeep to display this fine work?
 
 
 
 No problem (and Kuje's allegedly done all the work already).
  
 Just clean up the tab fields, as it seems they fell out when I transferred the data... <shrug>
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                      | From another scroll - 
 
 quote:Originally posted by Daarkknight
 
 Steven,
 
 I apologize beforehand if you've answered this question before (anywhere), but I can't seem to find an answer for this...
 
 I've started up a new campaign and needed a secretive wizard from Myth Drannor for some of the character's background. I discovered that Ualair the Silent would fit the bill just about right. But I came across a discrepancy between C:EoE and FoMD concerning Ualair. In FoMD, Ualair is listed as a gold elf (p. 7), while in C:EoE, he is listed as a moon elf (p. 122).
 
 Any help you (or anyone else) can offer would be greatly appreciated, even if its a "Marvel No-Prize" answer.
 
 And for what it's worth, I also have always preferred Force Grey.
 
 
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                      | I love the lore Steven -- especially the section on old religious sites  . This is going in my LOI addendum, that I started a few days after you first arrived here at Candlekeep. 
 
 quote:Oh, I've been wanting something like this for a while... but I just didn't know where in the Realms to put it. And the fact that it's connected with the Mystran faith... even better.Originally posted by Steven Schend
 
 E) Myrjala's Circle:  Ahlarkhem; five miles east of Duhlnarim, 1 m. south of road; The whole standing stones of Myrjala's Circle just southwest of Impresk Lake are still used today by the faithful of Mystra; allegedly, any priest of Mystra who dies within the circle forever attends to the circle and adds ghostly prayers. This legend is why this circle, outside of all others, remains inviolate----it is a holy place for Mystra and the ghosts keep all desecrators away, and protect any wizard who sleeps herein as if it were a druids' grove.
 
 
 Can anyone not of the Mystran faith hear the ghostly prayers? Are there any other specialised defenses besides the ghosts?
 
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                      | quote:Originally posted by Kuje
 
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 I thought only the lovely Lady Hooded One was allowed to do that...
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                      | quote:Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
 
 
 quote:Originally posted by Kuje
 
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 I thought only the lovely Lady Hooded One was allowed to do that...
    
 
 
 She uses a less painful whip then I do. :)
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                      | quote:Someday, we're going to want to hear about those Loviatar "rituals"...Originally posted by Kuje
 
 
 quote:Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
 
 
 quote:Originally posted by Kuje
 
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 I thought only the lovely Lady Hooded One was allowed to do that...
    
 
 
 She uses a less painful whip then I do. :)
 
 
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                      | quote:Originally posted by The Sage
 
 From another scroll -
 
 
 quote:Originally posted by Daarkknight
 
 Steven,
 
 I apologize beforehand if you've answered this question before (anywhere), but I can't seem to find an answer for this...
 
 I've started up a new campaign and needed a secretive wizard from Myth Drannor for some of the character's background. I discovered that Ualair the Silent would fit the bill just about right. But I came across a discrepancy between C:EoE and FoMD concerning Ualair. In FoMD, Ualair is listed as a gold elf (p. 7), while in C:EoE, he is listed as a moon elf (p. 122).
 
 Any help you (or anyone else) can offer would be greatly appreciated, even if its a "Marvel No-Prize" answer.
 
 And for what it's worth, I also have always preferred Force Grey.
 
 
 Daarkknight
 
 
 
 
 
 Another one?
   First the Srinshee, and now Ualair? Gawdemmit.... 
 Okay. Consider the ref of him as a moon elf extraneous. He's a gold. And a good guy. And he's not dead yet. That's all I'm sayin'.....
 
 If you need an excuse for the confusion, here it comes: There are some elves who are the children of both gold and moon elf parents, and depending on how they dress or use makeup, they can be taken as either sub-race of elf by those who do not know them well. Ualair's not alone in this--Yaereene Ilbaereth and Ashemmi are two elves with similar bloodlines.
  
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                      | quote:Originally posted by The Sage
 
 I love the lore Steven -- especially the section on old religious sites
  . This is going in my LOI addendum, that I started a few days after you first arrived here at Candlekeep. 
 
 quote:Oh, I've been wanting something like this for a while... but I just didn't know where in the Realms to put it. And the fact that it's connected with the Mystran faith... even better.Originally posted by Steven Schend
 
 E) Myrjala's Circle:  Ahlarkhem; five miles east of Duhlnarim, 1 m. south of road; The whole standing stones of Myrjala's Circle just southwest of Impresk Lake are still used today by the faithful of Mystra; allegedly, any priest of Mystra who dies within the circle forever attends to the circle and adds ghostly prayers. This legend is why this circle, outside of all others, remains inviolate----it is a holy place for Mystra and the ghosts keep all desecrators away, and protect any wizard who sleeps herein as if it were a druids' grove.
 
 
 Can anyone not of the Mystran faith hear the ghostly prayers? Are there any other specialised defenses besides the ghosts?
 
 
 
 Well, they'd hardly be effective as guardians at keeping others out if the only people who could hear them were Mystra-worshipers.
  Yes, the prayers are heard by anyone within five paces of the stones or within the circle. If you're approaching with a particularly devout Mystran (like Count Gamalon Idogyr, for whom I've added two levels of Disciple or whatever the religious PRC is, as he's happily restoring two abbeys for Mystra in his county), you may even get to see the manifestation of the spirits (which they only do if they're truly emotional--and that can be happy or angry both). 
 Do me a favor, lad, and bounce me a copy of your LOI addendum, if only so I have a file as well collating all the natter I've said hither and yon about the areas. Thanks. Muchly appreciated.
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                      | quote:Consider it (nearly) done Sage Schend!Originally posted by Steven Schend
 
 Do me a favor, lad, and bounce me a copy of your LOI addendum, if only so I have a file as well collating all the natter I've said hither and yon about the areas. Thanks. Muchly appreciated.
 
 
  
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                      |  Posted - 11 Sep 2005 :  11:16:58         
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                      | quote:Originally posted by Kuje
 
 I snagged it already for my files, which will be on your site, if someone ever puts up my misc html...... Cracks his whip at Alaundo.
 
 
 
 Well met
 
 Ahha! Splendid, Kuje.  I'll be sure to get onto it right awa..... hold on a moment, pass me back that whip!
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                      | quote:If you`re interested in most foul and terrible devices that will inspire the people here to work faster, Alaundo, you need only ask me, since my god specializes in the gory bits.Originally posted by Alaundo
 
 
 quote:Originally posted by Kuje
 
 I snagged it already for my files, which will be on your site, if someone ever puts up my misc html...... Cracks his whip at Alaundo.
 
 
 
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                      |  Posted - 11 Sep 2005 :  19:18:57       
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                      | quote:Originally posted by khorne
 
 If you`re interested in most foul and terrible devices that will inspire the people here to work faster, Alaundo, you need only ask me, since my god specializes in the gory bits.
  
 
 
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                      | quote:Just you wait. I`ll gate him into the realms and then he`ll kick Tempus, Anhur and Garagos all over the place.Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
 
 
 quote:Originally posted by khorne
 
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                      | quote:Originally posted by khorne
 
 
 quote:Just you wait. I`ll gate him into the realms and then he`ll kick Tempus, Anhur and Garagos all over the place.Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
 
 
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 If you`re interested in most foul and terrible devices that will inspire the people here to work faster, Alaundo, you need only ask me, since my god specializes in the gory bits.
  
 
 
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                      |  Posted - 12 Sep 2005 :  02:45:57         
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                      | Well, to get things back on track, a question for Steven: 
 Can you give us an example your 'dream' gaming group? Doesn't matter if they're alive, dead, undead, immortal, real, imaginary, or in varying states of decay.
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                      |  Posted - 12 Sep 2005 :  12:44:48         
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                      | quote:Originally posted by Melfius
 
 Well, to get things back on track, a question for Steven:
 
 Can you give us an example your 'dream' gaming group? Doesn't matter if they're alive, dead, undead, immortal, real, imaginary, or in varying states of decay.
 
 
 
 Not quite sure what you're meaning here (as I'm yet without caffeine in my system): Are you talking adventuring party, group about which I've written in the past, or actual players in a gaming group?
 
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                      |  Posted - 12 Sep 2005 :  14:11:31         
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                      | Actual players in a gaming group. 
 Now, go get that COFFEE!!!!!
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                      |  Posted - 13 Sep 2005 :  13:44:31         
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                      | For anyone to repost on the D&D / WOtC boards, since I scanned a discussion this morning... 
 The Highfire Crown's reference as The Holy Grail was not a mention of its power level, but more how the elven race sees it--It's the "Holy Grail" of things for which to quest. It's the ultimate prize/elven treasure that should be sought. It's a reminder of what elves are capable of at their best. It's not because it brings its bearer untold amounts of power (though it does, that...).
 
 By the by, (Steven dances nimbly around the edges of an NDA standing by with a grim look, black cloak, and a scythe), don't worry about whether or not people will come to look for you for possessing the Highfire Crown. It's NOT a singular item, but 13 individuals (High Mages, no less) who choose to work cooperatively. THEY choose who finds them, and THEY choose whether or not to assemble into the Crown and grant the wearer their help/power. It's almost closer to the Crown of Horns, which also chooses its own wearer, but to the power of 13.
 
 Bet that really puts the cat among the pigeons...
  
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                      |  Posted - 13 Sep 2005 :  16:56:23         
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                      | quote:Stupid question, what is the highfire crown? I`ve heard about it somewhere but I`ve forgotten.Originally posted by Steven Schend
 
 For anyone to repost on the D&D / WOtC boards, since I scanned a discussion this morning...
 
 The Highfire Crown's reference as The Holy Grail was not a mention of its power level, but more how the elven race sees it--It's the "Holy Grail" of things for which to quest. It's the ultimate prize/elven treasure that should be sought. It's a reminder of what elves are capable of at their best. It's not because it brings its bearer untold amounts of power (though it does, that...).
 
 By the by, (Steven dances nimbly around the edges of an NDA standing by with a grim look, black cloak, and a scythe), don't worry about whether or not people will come to look for you for possessing the Highfire Crown. It's NOT a singular item, but 13 individuals (High Mages, no less) who choose to work cooperatively. THEY choose who finds them, and THEY choose whether or not to assemble into the Crown and grant the wearer their help/power. It's almost closer to the Crown of Horns, which also chooses its own wearer, but to the power of 13.
 
 Bet that really puts the cat among the pigeons...
  
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                      |  Posted - 13 Sep 2005 :  17:40:25       
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                      | quote:Originally posted by khorne
 
 Stupid question, what is the highfire crown? I`ve heard about it somewhere but I`ve forgotten.
 
 
 
 It's detailed in the Fall of Myth Drannor. :)
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                      |  Posted - 13 Sep 2005 :  18:57:30         
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                      | what would be the "holy grail" for the other races? i have some choices in mind for dwarves, but what about halflings and gnomes? and drow? |  
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                      |  Posted - 13 Sep 2005 :  19:17:48         
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                      | quote:Originally posted by The Sage
 
 I'll do it
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 Sorry, no I didn't. If you only sent it this a.m., there may be some delay with my email system (though there shouldn't be). Resend and I'll let you know if I don't have it by sundown today. And thanks.
 
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                      |  Posted - 14 Sep 2005 :  01:57:56       
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                      | quote:I thought as much.Originally posted by Steven Schend
 
 
 quote:Originally posted by The Sage
 
 I'll do it
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 Hey Steven... did you get the addendum?
 
 
 
 
 Sorry, no I didn't. If you only sent it this a.m., there may be some delay with my email system (though there shouldn't be). Resend and I'll let you know if I don't have it by sundown today. And thanks.
 
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 I'll try sending it again
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