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The Sage
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Posted - 25 Oct 2005 :  02:12:58  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Monster Mythology makes a passing reference.

There's also quite a number of "unofficial" theories online that suggest a possible connection between Velsharoon and Mellifleur, but I find most of them poorly supported by facts.

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Kuje
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Posted - 25 Oct 2005 :  02:19:49  Show Profile Send Kuje a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Powers & Pantheons says that Velsharoon is him. :)

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Edited by - Kuje on 25 Oct 2005 02:34:54
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KnightErrantJR
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Mellifleur is listed as an alias of Velsharoon in Powers and Pantheons. Other than that, I can't find anything official.
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The Sage
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Posted - 25 Oct 2005 :  02:27:54  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Kuje

Powers & Pantheons says the Velsharoon is him. :)

And that's the other reference I was thinking about. ::lightbulb::

I knew there was another official source beside MM... Shows what happens when you don't get a full night's sleep .

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sleyvas
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<<I beleive most accounts that mention Gareth's exploits only mention that he destroyed the Wand of Orcus, not that he destroyed Orcus himself. If you think about it, it would almost makes sense, since Orcus' wand was destroyed, then Kiransalee attacks him when he was weakened, without his favorite weapon.>>


Gareth destroyed the wand, but Kiaransalee is mentioned in demi-human deities as having hidden the wand AFTER destroying him.

"Although she lacked the power
to eliminate the very memory of Orcus from the minds of the
multiverse after killing the Prince of the Undead, Kiaransalee
magically erased the name of the late Abyssal lord wherever
and however it had been recorded. With her foe slain and his
corpse adrift in the Astral Plane, the Lady of the Dead stew all
the servants and proxies of Orcus (save one, whom she accepted
into her own service) and hid the legendary Wand of Orcus
where none could ever find it-or so she thought."

As is often the case, it sounds to me that something much more interesting could be made of these events.



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Tiamat killing Gilgeam during the ToT is described in the prelude of FR novel The Alabaster Staff

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Arivia
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Going off this thread... anyone know which sources point towards Shar's slaying of Ibrandul during the ToT?
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quote:
Originally posted by Arivia

Going off this thread... anyone know which sources point towards Shar's slaying of Ibrandul during the ToT?



I think the Ibrandlin MC entry in the first Ruins of Undermountain boxed set was the first reference... It's also in Faiths & Avatars, where Ibrandul has an entry.

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quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
I think the Ibrandlin MC entry in the first Ruins of Undermountain boxed set was the first reference... It's also in Faiths & Avatars, where Ibrandul has an entry.



Great --- exactly what I needed to know.
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The Sage
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quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

quote:
Originally posted by Arivia

Going off this thread... anyone know which sources point towards Shar's slaying of Ibrandul during the ToT?



I think the Ibrandlin MC entry in the first Ruins of Undermountain boxed set was the first reference... It's also in Faiths & Avatars, where Ibrandul has an entry.

And it's referenced on "The Gods walk Toril" article at WotC.

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Wooly Rupert
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You know... This just made me think of something. The first Ibrandul reference (that I know of) was in an MC entry. Ditto for the fact that Ghaunadaur has a temple hidden in Waterdeep... That was two good bits of Realmslore hidden in monster entries! It again makes me regret WotC's move to make monsters nothing more than stats...

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The Sage
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Posted - 19 Apr 2006 :  02:46:40  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Yeah... those MC entries were always a real hoot to read through. Always chock-full of useful lore (for every one of the settings they were published for).

I even recall that the DLMCs were among the first DL references to specifically mention the origins of Ionthas.

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