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Senbar Flay
Learned Scribe
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 Posted - 16 Jan 2005 : 04:51:41
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Hello I was looking through the site when i stumbled on a link to the Dlabbradath Net and was wondering about soemthing contained wthin it's volumes.The first is it reminded me of two frotunes I read and was wondering if there is anymore detial or insight to them the first. In Fait's and Pantheaons it states that Dendar the Night Serpent shall come forth and try to eat the sun and if Ubtao fails to defeat her Toril is doomed. Second(I don't know if it is canon) In the Dlabbradath Net a page says that in the elven Arcanum a prophesy fortells the coming of the Seven and that a huge war will be fought over the fate of Toril the particular paragraph statingthe elves will be involved greatly. Is there anymore info on either of them?
Thanks.
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Dargoth
Great Reader
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Posted - 16 Jan 2005 : 05:19:06
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| Cant speak for your 2nd Prophecy but the first ones true Dendar features in the FR novel Prince of Lies its also been suggested that she will be stated out for 3ed in Champions of Ruin |
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DDH_101
Master of Realmslore
Canada
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Posted - 16 Jan 2005 : 06:20:27
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| Senbar, I think the second prophecy you are talking about might have something to do with Alaundo's prophecies. I remember reading abotu a giant war that will happen in 21-something DR... |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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Kentinal
Great Reader
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Posted - 16 Jan 2005 : 16:29:24
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http://www.candlekeep.com/library/articles/retreat.htm
The Secret of the Elven Retreat
By Toby Mekelburg
"Of the 2,000 or so prophecies within the Arcanum, only about 1/4 have come to pass. Among the prophecies, one stands out as the most important to the elves. Foretold by the sage Galaralith Durothil, who wrote many of the prophecies, is the ending of the world and its rebirth:
"And the Ending shall come,
Brought about by the Seven
Raise the standard of War
Only the People to stand against Them
With Man to deliver the Verdict
In Light or Dark the world reborn"
This prophecy, commonly called the Finale by the elves, is perhaps the most straight-forward of Galaralith's prophecies. "
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Wooly Rupert
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Kentinal
Great Reader
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Posted - 16 Jan 2005 : 17:29:12
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
Any idea how canon that article is?
The aurther provides this
Bibliography
Elves of Evermeet
Complete Book of Elves
Dragon #236 'The Seldarine Revisited'
as per this site: http://www.fortunecity.es/imaginario/espacio/136/biblio/retreat.htm
It might not be canon though, appears fan written to me. |
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SiriusBlack
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Posted - 16 Jan 2005 : 17:56:27
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Originally posted by Kentinal
It might not be canon though, appears fan written to me.
I encountered the article several years ago when Toby was posting on the FR mailing list. I never was given the impression it was canon although I think it's a nice piece of fan writing that could be used by a DM. |
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Kentinal
Great Reader
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Posted - 16 Jan 2005 : 18:03:50
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Originally posted by SiriusBlack
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Originally posted by Kentinal
It might not be canon though, appears fan written to me.
I encountered the article several years ago when Toby was posting on the FR mailing list. I never was given the impression it was canon although I think it's a nice piece of fan writing that could be used by a DM.
Looking around candlekeep some more, I find the article is listed under Various Unofficial Lore |
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Senbar Flay
Learned Scribe
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Posted - 16 Jan 2005 : 21:35:52
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[quote]Originally posted by Dargoth
Cant speak for your 2nd Prophecy but the first ones true Dendar features in the FR novel Prince of Lies its also been suggested that she will be stated out for 3ed in Champions of Ruin
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If the first one is true wich ot seems so is there any record of when it is prophesised it will happen?
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Kentinal
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Posted - 16 Jan 2005 : 22:02:15
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Originally posted by Senbar Flay
[quote]Originally posted by Dargoth
If the first one is true wich ot seems so is there any record of when it is prophesised it will happen?
I offer two anwsers.
1) It is true the Prophecy appears to be canon, in that it was said. This does not mean it is accurate. ;-)
2) If ture (see 1 above) , it will happen at the time when it will happen. No Prophecy that I know of says year, month, day or hour that it will occur. They sometimes to indicate location and certain conditions.
I do not believe that anyone knows the time that this might happen. It allows for the building toward an event, but one that might be averted.
When actually ralking about a battle that could start days or even months before trying to eat the sun, which makes it even harder to point to any set start date. |
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KnightErrantJR
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Posted - 01 Apr 2005 : 05:27:38
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| In Prince of Lies Dendar aluded to the fact that she was almost "full" of nightmares, which meant she would end the world, but then she was rather forcefully "emptied" of them and as such she doesn't seem to be an IMEDIATE threat . . . |
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DDH_101
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 01 Apr 2005 : 19:40:09
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| I agree with Kentinal's thinking. Often these prophecies, especially Alaundo's, are predicted very early on and gives people a chance to avert disaster or change it. For example, Alaundo's prophecy on Cormyr. Everything that Alaundo predicted that would happen to Cormyr did happen, but the guardians that were supposed to deal with this prophecy did not do as they were intended and still Cormyr and its citizens saved themselves. So basically, these prophecies can be averted, even if they do happen. |
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
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Posted - 03 Apr 2005 : 19:16:06
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| The new novel Viper's Kiss deals with this subject a bit. :) I suggest reading it, though read Venom's Taste first. |
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The End of All Toril
