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The Whackmiester
Acolyte
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 Posted - 18 Dec 2004 : 15:19:44
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Okay, I've been to a few FR servers in Neverwinter Nights and have seen each of their versions of Llorkh: a charming little place owned by the Zhentarim. But still the question remains: Who really founded it? There is no way the Zhentarim could give a city a name that wierd unless the zhent who named it was Ozzy Osbourne (Hey-yo!) I think it was orcs that founded it and came up with the name. Am I wrong?
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Edited by - Alaundo on 22 Dec 2004 09:04:10
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
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Posted - 18 Dec 2004 : 15:38:51
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Originally posted by The Whackmiester
Okay, I've been to a few FR servers in Neverwinter Nights and have seen each of their versions of Llorkh: a charming little place owned by the Zhentarim. But still the question remains: Who really founded it? There is no way the Zhentarim could give a city a name that wierd unless the zhent who named it was Ozzy Osbourne (Hey-yo!) I think it was orcs that founded it and came up with the name. Am I wrong?
I don't recall reading anything that mentioned orcs founding the city. The only piece of information I recall of Pre-Zhent days is found in the North boxed set. If I recall correctly, it just mentions the dwarf and human miners that made up the town before the Zhentarim arrived. |
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Alparon
Seeker
Turkey
67 Posts |
Posted - 19 Dec 2004 : 21:26:08
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who do the zhents pray now
cyric or bane |
I am Cyric, the One and the All, God of Murder and Intrigue, Patron of Deception and Chaos, Prince of Lies, the Dark Sun, rightful Lord of the Dead, Cyric-on-a-stick, and known to some as "the Mad God." I welcome you to The Land of the Dead... |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
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Posted - 20 Dec 2004 : 03:46:17
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Originally posted by Alparon
who do the zhents pray now
cyric or bane
Yes. 
Bane is the man in Zhentil Keep, but Cyric still has his adherents elsewhere. |
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Alparon
Seeker
Turkey
67 Posts |
Posted - 21 Dec 2004 : 16:50:27
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does this mean that cyric has lost much of his power and he is not a great power now?
i believe the greatest number of his followers were in Zhentil keep(but after the tragedy -in Prince of Lies- that has changed a bit i guess!) |
I am Cyric, the One and the All, God of Murder and Intrigue, Patron of Deception and Chaos, Prince of Lies, the Dark Sun, rightful Lord of the Dead, Cyric-on-a-stick, and known to some as "the Mad God." I welcome you to The Land of the Dead... |
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
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Posted - 22 Dec 2004 : 04:37:28
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Originally posted by Alparon
does this mean that cyric has lost much of his power and he is not a great power now?
No, to my recollection, Cyric is still a Greater God. |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36804 Posts |
Posted - 22 Dec 2004 : 11:18:35
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Originally posted by SiriusBlack
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Originally posted by Alparon
does this mean that cyric has lost much of his power and he is not a great power now?
No, to my recollection, Cyric is still a Greater God.
I've never thought he was all that great. |
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the psychotic seaotter
Seeker
USA
78 Posts |
Posted - 23 Dec 2004 : 00:15:38
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
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Originally posted by SiriusBlack
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Originally posted by Alparon
does this mean that cyric has lost much of his power and he is not a great power now?
No, to my recollection, Cyric is still a Greater God.
I've never thought he was all that great.
You know, niether have I. But, he has been warming on me since I am beginning a campiagn set just after the ToT so I have to get used to him I guess...if I have to . |
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Alparon
Seeker
Turkey
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Posted - 23 Dec 2004 : 23:55:53
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i think Cyric is a very influencial figure in determining the Faerun pantheon politics, he may be insane but he always has a plan to shift the balance to his side |
I am Cyric, the One and the All, God of Murder and Intrigue, Patron of Deception and Chaos, Prince of Lies, the Dark Sun, rightful Lord of the Dead, Cyric-on-a-stick, and known to some as "the Mad God." I welcome you to The Land of the Dead... |
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Evro
Acolyte
USA
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Posted - 29 Apr 2005 : 09:17:54
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| In answer to the original question, according to FR5 The Savage Frontier, Llorkh and Loudwater were both founded by Netherese about the same time frame as the founding of Ascalhorn. |
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khorne
Master of Realmslore
Finland
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Posted - 29 Apr 2005 : 12:17:32
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Originally posted by Alparon
i think Cyric is a very influencial figure in determining the Faerun pantheon politics, he may be insane but he always has a plan to shift the balance to his side
Nowadays he is quite sane. |
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Lord Desolation
Acolyte
USA
27 Posts |
Posted - 29 Apr 2005 : 17:51:33
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| Cyric is no way sane or the greatest god. He could never stand up to Banes stature or power. Even a god like Lathander or Loth could defeat him. Cyric could never hold onto much power because of his mental insability. |
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
USA
5517 Posts |
Posted - 29 Apr 2005 : 18:04:24
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Originally posted by Lord Desolation
Cyric is no way sane or the greatest god. He could never stand up to Banes stature or power. Even a god like Lathander or Loth could defeat him. Cyric could never hold onto much power because of his mental insability.
The most current information I have seen in Faiths and Pantheons details how Cyric regained his sanity. Thus, what source are you using to state he is in "no way sane?" Or is that just a personal opinion? |
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SomeDude
Acolyte
USA
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Posted - 01 May 2005 : 03:53:06
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Are we talking about Cyric being insane because of reading the Cyrinishad and then being slapped back to reality with The True Life? If this is the case I would suggest that he would have to have been at least a bit insane to have attampted a project like the Cyrinishad, thus even after hearing the pages of The True Life he would still be as nuts as when he decided to have the Cyrinishad written.
It's been a while sence I read the Avatar Series so I may be a bit off on how and if it was The True Life that brought him back to sanity.
Lastly, I may be in the minority here but I like Cyric as a deity (This may be due to the fact that I never played before 3ed except for the Baulders Gate II PC game). I think he's a great deity for power hungry (primarily young) humans listed as his worshipers. Although I do think that he should, and my soon be, knocked down to Intermediate or Lesser status but wouldn't he have to have one or more of his portfolios taken by other deities for this to happen?
PS. I hope I didn't waste anyones time with this, as stated above I'm still relatively new to this but I try to be somewhat informed.
PSS. I love reading these forms to hear the opinions of you much more seasoned sages here. (not trying to kiss up  ) |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36804 Posts |
Posted - 01 May 2005 : 15:04:05
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| I personally don't care for Cyric. The "psycho-evil-megalomaniac-dude" thing he's got going on is a serious cliché. |
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
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Posted - 01 May 2005 : 16:19:30
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
I personally don't care for Cyric. The "psycho-evil-megalomaniac-dude" thing he's got going on is a serious cliché.
I've never found him interesting. That fact is part of the reason the ToT novels are not that entertaining for this scribe. |
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Kuje
Great Reader
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Posted - 01 May 2005 : 22:53:44
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Originally posted by SiriusBlack
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
I personally don't care for Cyric. The "psycho-evil-megalomaniac-dude" thing he's got going on is a serious cliché.
I've never found him interesting. That fact is part of the reason the ToT novels are not that entertaining for this scribe.
Ditto, which is why I don't include the ToT's. I dislike all of those deities and prefer the ones that were killed off. :) |
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
USA
5517 Posts |
Posted - 01 May 2005 : 22:57:21
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Ditto, which is why I don't include the ToT's. I dislike all of those deities and prefer the ones that were killed off. :)
Now you're starting to sound like Ed Greenwood  since if I recall correctly, his home campaign never included the ToT. |
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Kuje
Great Reader
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Posted - 01 May 2005 : 23:16:11
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Originally posted by kuje31
Ditto, which is why I don't include the ToT's. I dislike all of those deities and prefer the ones that were killed off. :)
Now you're starting to sound like Ed Greenwood since if I recall correctly, his home campaign never included the ToT.
You recall right, as far as Ed said. And I agree with Ed when he said, a few times, that the RSE's are harder and harder to top and FR is a bad setting for them. :) Which is why I'll never use them. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 02 May 2005 : 01:42:06
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Ditto, which is why I don't include the ToT's. I dislike all of those deities and prefer the ones that were killed off. :)
I've said this many times here already, but the only god who actually died during my run of the ToT (which lasted three years in my campaign) was Bane. As we know, he came back officially, but I still keep both Bhaal and Myrkul around, with Myrkul becoming a lesser power and Bhaal merging with Talos for a time. He now though, exists again as a separate god and retains his position as Lord of Murder.
Myrkul on the other hand become the lesser power of undeath.
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