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DDH_101
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Posted - 09 Dec 2004 :  23:41:19  Show Profile  Visit DDH_101's Homepage Send DDH_101 a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
Does anyone know about this race? I found it while reading the Epic Level Handbook. Apparently, the Guild Mother of the Garrote, Anifer Unglum, is a leShay. I have no clue about this race and came up with nothing at Google.

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Purple Dragon Knight
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Posted - 10 Dec 2004 :  00:42:13  Show Profile Send Purple Dragon Knight a Private Message  Reply with Quote
LeShay is a new race described in the ELH. No previous appearance AFAIK. I do not believe they have appeared in the Realms... yet!

(Disclaimer: I have not finished reading Shining South and Serpent Kingdoms, so I apologize if they have appeared in these tomes)
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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 10 Dec 2004 :  00:56:34  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Purple Dragon Knight

LeShay is a new race described in the ELH. No previous appearance AFAIK. I do not believe they have appeared in the Realms... yet!

(Disclaimer: I have not finished reading Shining South and Serpent Kingdoms, so I apologize if they have appeared in these tomes)



I have read both of those tomes, and I can say that I can't recall any of those critters in there.

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DDH_101
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Posted - 10 Dec 2004 :  01:45:36  Show Profile  Visit DDH_101's Homepage Send DDH_101 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Purple Dragon Knight

LeShay is a new race described in the ELH. No previous appearance AFAIK. I do not believe they have appeared in the Realms... yet!

(Disclaimer: I have not finished reading Shining South and Serpent Kingdoms, so I apologize if they have appeared in these tomes)



PDK, care to share more info on them?

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Kuje
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Posted - 10 Dec 2004 :  02:12:27  Show Profile Send Kuje a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I could have sworn, but I never looked and my copy is stuck in my stack of CDs somewhere, that an old issue of Dragon had info on that race and that was where it first appeared. Wooly has the archieves also so maybe he could do a search for it. :)

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SiriusBlack
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Posted - 10 Dec 2004 :  02:35:10  Show Profile  Visit SiriusBlack's Homepage Send SiriusBlack a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Is this site's description of the race accurate? If so, interesting...
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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 10 Dec 2004 :  02:39:42  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I just did that search, and got zero hits. If it was in an old Dragon, it's after issue 250.

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Capn Charlie
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Posted - 10 Dec 2004 :  02:59:31  Show Profile  Visit Capn Charlie's Homepage Send Capn Charlie a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hmm, they are like to elves as elves are to humans...

I find it hard to believe that the elves could ever think another race is too sissified, uptight, and arrogant.

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Mystery_Man
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Posted - 10 Dec 2004 :  03:24:17  Show Profile  Visit Mystery_Man's Homepage Send Mystery_Man a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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Hmm, they are like to elves as elves are to humans...

I find it hard to believe that the elves could ever think another race is too sissified, uptight, and arrogant.


Well, they're not elves, they are Fey. They are immortal, "less then gods but more than mortals" and the remnant of a once great race whos origins are lost to history.

Fey were one of the creator races so they can easily be inserted into the FR if one so desired. Pretty easily in fact since they claim to "predate the multiverse" and refer to some catastrophe the wiped most of them out and "changed time so that their era never existed."

You could wrap a pretty complex, high powered high level time traveling planar campaign around that. :)

One of my players played one briefly in my last campaign(his character was obliterated, long story) to fight a marilith with some (a lot) levels of fighter on her. She never had a chance, LeShay are rediculously powerful. Frankly I think they are just cooler than hell.
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DDH_101
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Posted - 10 Dec 2004 :  03:51:52  Show Profile  Visit DDH_101's Homepage Send DDH_101 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I think the site is somewhat accurate, Sirius. In ELH, Anifer passes off as an elf to all her fellow Garrote members and none, not even high ranking members, know that she is a leShay. The ones that do find out are quickly killed by her and destroyed by her magical cloak.

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SiriusBlack
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Posted - 10 Dec 2004 :  04:20:42  Show Profile  Visit SiriusBlack's Homepage Send SiriusBlack a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by DDH_101

I think the site is somewhat accurate, Sirius.


Thank you for the verification.
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Purple Dragon Knight
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Posted - 10 Dec 2004 :  07:39:18  Show Profile Send Purple Dragon Knight a Private Message  Reply with Quote
DDH, I do not know more than what is found in the ELH... I do, however, agree that they would fit perfectly as one of the 5 creator races (fey creator race). They could be the creators of the Green Elves of Faerun (Green Elves later branched out in two subraces: Wood Elves and Wild Elves), as well as the Aquatic Elves, the Dark Elves, the Avariel and the Wolf-Elves. I believe the only non-native elves of Faerun are the Moon and Sun elves (i.e. from Faerie)
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Thomas M. Reid
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Posted - 10 Dec 2004 :  16:32:26  Show Profile  Visit Thomas M. Reid's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I created the leshay from scratch for the ELH; to my knowledge there was no prior material on them anywhere in gaming.

Thomas

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SiriusBlack
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Posted - 10 Dec 2004 :  16:38:04  Show Profile  Visit SiriusBlack's Homepage Send SiriusBlack a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Thomas M. Reid

I created the leshay from scratch for the ELH; to my knowledge there was no prior material on them anywhere in gaming.

Thomas



No wonder I find them interesting. Good job from the information I read. Have you ever thought about possible designing a whole FR product yourself?

Thanks for clearing up the ponderings on Leshay origins.
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Mystery_Man
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Posted - 10 Dec 2004 :  17:04:17  Show Profile  Visit Mystery_Man's Homepage Send Mystery_Man a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Thomas M. Reid

I created the leshay from scratch for the ELH; to my knowledge there was no prior material on them anywhere in gaming.

Thomas



Well allow me to say thanks! I really love their weapon concept.
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Purple Dragon Knight
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Posted - 10 Dec 2004 :  20:15:09  Show Profile Send Purple Dragon Knight a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Thomas M. Reid

I created the leshay from scratch for the ELH; to my knowledge there was no prior material on them anywhere in gaming.

Thomas

You HAVE to push for their inclusion in the Realms as the fey creator race!! you HAVE to!!

(in my campaign, they are, and they are the ones who created the crossroads and backroads... as well as the guardians regulating those; I plan to send one against the PCs if they ever decide to kill a crossroad guardian! )
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