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Faraer
Great Reader
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 Posted - 05 Dec 2004 : 03:03:46
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Hey, Ed gets his short-story collection. Good going Ed, Peter. Still want to see an interview with you.
Title: Long. Too long for this messageboard's subject field.
Cover: Wizards keeps insisting on foregrounding Elminster and the Sisters. Couldn't we have had Mirt in the Simbul's place? I like the style, though, reminds me of the great b/w art of old. Elminster brought back to reality a bit from the aggressive FRCS picture, though there's still that ridiculous bulky sword. Still cheeky to call El Ed's 'signature character'.
Contents: Page count is sizeable, so the number of stories will depend on text density. I reckon there are 18 published, including "Zirta" and the spin-a-yarns. How many of them, how many new and old/unpublished ones? I guess we'll see.
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George Krashos
Master of Realmslore
Australia
6666 Posts |
Posted - 05 Dec 2004 : 04:39:17
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Any chance of a new story or two in this collection?
-- George Krashos
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Winterfox
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 05 Dec 2004 : 05:27:48
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Lord Rad
Great Reader
United Kingdom
2080 Posts |
Posted - 05 Dec 2004 : 10:50:37
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I'm quite looking forward to this one, I hope we get a list of whats included soon  As I mentioned in another post, I don't think that Spin a Yarn etc. will be included in here, more likely to be Ed's stories from other anthologies.
Can you confirm anything about this novel, Hooded One?  |
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The Hooded One
Lady Herald of Realmslore
5056 Posts |
Posted - 05 Dec 2004 : 15:23:06
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THIS is the secret I’ve been sitting on; something I consider a ‘must-have’ for the true Realms fan. About the cover: bear in mind you’re almost certainly looking at a ‘prototype’ mocked up using the background from the first Best of the Realms book with a preliminary pencil sketch superimposed, so the final may well not look like this. Of COURSE it plays to so-called ‘signature characters’ (and babes); remember, the cover is to sell it to non-Realms fans; we who love the Realms would buy the thing if it was sitting in the bookstores WITHOUT a cover.
About the contents: Ed tells me he’s done very minor clean-up rewriting to everything, that the lineup of tales has been set, and that unless it disappears in the editing, every tale has specific dating given, there are many previously unpublished tales, and that you won’t see any of the Spin A Yarn stories (in other words, the attempt is to make this “best” stories, not “collect all of Ed’s stories”). I personally know of almost fifty unpublished Realms stories by Ed, so this collection can only scratch the surface, so to speak.
I think there will be seventeen stories in this book, plus a quotation or two, but this is just my guess based on some snooping I did during my last visit chez Ed, nothing confirmed by Ed himself. I do know that Ed wrote short introductions for every story. I also know that Ed chose some of the stories you’ll be seeing for the first time in order to give us ‘you are there’ glimpses of important Realms NPCs at important-to-the-wider-Realms moments in their lives. And of course, the title suggests that some of the book’s contents will be previously published Realms stories, which almost certainly means some of the ‘Realms of’ tales, and probably retrieving Ed’s Mirt story from DRAGON and possibly the computer manual stories (though bear in mind that those two MAY be trammeled by legal permission problems).
Those who don’t like Ed’s writing will, of course, be easily able to dismiss this book, but my own knowledge of Ed’s unpublished oeuvre lets me say two things: you’ll see something of the wide variety of styles Ed can write in, herein, and if you read all of the tales, you’ll have a masterful grasp of the thinking and ‘character’ of some important Realms folk (usable by DMs, and hopefully to be used by Candlekeep scribes in informing arguments and viewpoints they express in this forum).
In short: essential Realmslore. A treasure.
Myself, I’m already hungry for Ed’s sequel collection to this one!
love to all,
THO
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Garen Thal
Master of Realmslore
USA
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Posted - 05 Dec 2004 : 16:38:40
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| That's two copies sold, then: One for Ed to sign for me, and the other to mark up with my own pencil-scribbled notes and dog-eared pages... :) |
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Alaundo
Head Moderator
United Kingdom
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Posted - 05 Dec 2004 : 18:38:23
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Originally posted by Garen Thal
That's two copies sold, then: One for Ed to sign for me, and the other to mark up with my own pencil-scribbled notes and dog-eared pages... :)
Well met
I'll have half a dozen Splendid, thank ye for the info on this tome, Hooded One. I'm certainly very (overly!) excited  |
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Faraer
Great Reader
3308 Posts |
Posted - 05 Dec 2004 : 22:32:27
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I feel comparably to the Hooded One about this volume: the short story is suited to the Realms at least as well as the novel, and this book stands to hold a unique holographic mix of views of Faerûn.
Of course, I look forward to seeing what gets pulled from the bag of unpublished. Nobility is a little overrepresented in the published tales, and I'd look to balance that.
I have etexts of the two computer manual stories, in case Ed/WotC don't. "Moonrise over Myth Drannor" deserves in the book, if ownership allows. "Living Forever" is more a vignette, but could maybe be a web enhancement. |
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George Krashos
Master of Realmslore
Australia
6666 Posts |
Posted - 05 Dec 2004 : 23:01:13
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Oh my lordy, lord that's great news THO! I'm salivating at the prospect. Of course, it probably won't hit my shores till 2008, but hey I'll get a copy somehow.
-- George Krashos
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PaulSKemp
Forgotten Realms Author
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Posted - 06 Dec 2004 : 00:07:02
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Woot! This is a Type H treasure trove (there's a 1E reference for the grognards) of Realmslore. I'll be looking forward to this.
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36804 Posts |
Posted - 06 Dec 2004 : 02:56:46
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Originally posted by Faraer
I feel comparably to the Hooded One about this volume: the short story is suited to the Realms at least as well as the novel, and this book stands to hold a unique holographic mix of views of Faerûn.
Of course, I look forward to seeing what gets pulled from the bag of unpublished. Nobility is a little overrepresented in the published tales, and I'd look to balance that.
I have etexts of the two computer manual stories, in case Ed/WotC don't. "Moonrise over Myth Drannor" deserves in the book, if ownership allows. "Living Forever" is more a vignette, but could maybe be a web enhancement.
What was Living Forever in? I should like to read that one... |
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The Hooded One
Lady Herald of Realmslore
5056 Posts |
Posted - 06 Dec 2004 : 03:11:12
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Wooly dearest, it was in the POOLS OF RADIANCE Ruins of Myth Drannor UbiSoft computer game, in the manual. As Faraer correctly says, it was (and remains) a vignette, but it's also the one restored to its original length (almost doubled, I believe). I have my suspicions that the other computer manual story, Moonrise, will run into copyright permission problems . . .
Sigh.
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36804 Posts |
Posted - 06 Dec 2004 : 04:22:17
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Originally posted by The Hooded One
Wooly dearest, it was in the POOLS OF RADIANCE Ruins of Myth Drannor UbiSoft computer game, in the manual. As Faraer correctly says, it was (and remains) a vignette, but it's also the one restored to its original length (almost doubled, I believe). I have my suspicions that the other computer manual story, Moonrise, will run into copyright permission problems . . .
Sigh.
THO
Thank you for sharing that bit of info, O Flirtatious Lady. I am looking forward to that book.
As for Moonrise over Myth Drannor, I happened across a copy of that book thru an odd sequence of friends borrowing it from friends. I like that tale, though it's been quite some time since I read it.  |
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Aginor37
Acolyte
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Posted - 06 Dec 2004 : 22:54:00
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As for Moonrise over Myth Drannor, I happened across a copy of that book thru an odd sequence of friends borrowing it from friends. I like that tale, though it's been quite some time since I read it.
Wasn't that the story in the manual of Eye of the Beholder 3, the old TSR(?) game? I think I still have the original manual to that game in one of my boxes of old gaming stuff. If I am correct, I really enjoyed it and it would be a shame if it couldn't be re-released. |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36804 Posts |
Posted - 07 Dec 2004 : 00:39:48
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Originally posted by Aginor37
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As for Moonrise over Myth Drannor, I happened across a copy of that book thru an odd sequence of friends borrowing it from friends. I like that tale, though it's been quite some time since I read it.
Wasn't that the story in the manual of Eye of the Beholder 3, the old TSR(?) game?
You are coreect.
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DDH_101
Master of Realmslore
Canada
1272 Posts |
Posted - 07 Dec 2004 : 01:24:16
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I saw the book yesterday at a bookstore and I flipped through a couple of pages. Several of the stories in there were interesting, but I didn't have time to read through it because my friends and I got kicked out...  |
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The Hooded One
Lady Herald of Realmslore
5056 Posts |
Posted - 07 Dec 2004 : 04:11:14
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Nuh-uh, DDH, not THIS book. Best of the Realms Volume 1, perhaps.
Ed's collection isn't typeset yet, let alone printed, though I believe his editor told him she was done with her computer formatting. When Ed gets his galleys, I'll let you all know.
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Dargoth
Great Reader
Australia
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Posted - 07 Dec 2004 : 06:15:07
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Originally posted by The Hooded One
Nuh-uh, DDH, not THIS book. Best of the Realms Volume 1, perhaps.
Ed's collection isn't typeset yet, let alone printed, though I believe his editor told him she was done with her computer formatting. When Ed gets his galleys, I'll let you all know.
THO
Actually I seem to recall that a best of the Realms has already been published, I believe the stories where even voted on the WOTC website............ |
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Kuje
Great Reader
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Posted - 07 Dec 2004 : 06:22:15
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Originally posted by Dargoth
Actually I seem to recall that a best of the Realms has already been published, I believe the stories where even voted on the WOTC website............
It has but DDH said that he had a copy of Ed's new book, which is impossible since it's not even been to the printer yet. :) Which is what THO said above. |
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DDH_101
Master of Realmslore
Canada
1272 Posts |
Posted - 08 Dec 2004 : 00:06:47
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But I did see it here in Canada, in a bookstore. In fact, it was in Chapter's, the largest chain bookstores in Canada! There was like 1 or 2 copy there...
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Bookwyrm
Great Reader
USA
4740 Posts |
Posted - 08 Dec 2004 : 01:20:34
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Originally posted by The Hooded One
THIS is the secret I’ve been sitting on; something I consider a ‘must-have’ for the true Realms fan. . . .
About the contents: Ed tells me he’s done very minor clean-up rewriting to everything, that the lineup of tales has been set, and that unless it disappears in the editing, every tale has specific dating given, there are many previously unpublished tales . . . .
I personally know of almost fifty unpublished Realms stories by Ed . . . .
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Xysma
Master of Realmslore
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The Simbul
Learned Scribe
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Posted - 09 Dec 2004 : 09:51:18
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| The fact that the Simbul is on the cover is probably going to entice me to purchase it, hopefully there will be one or two stories featuring her, or perhaps one where she is the main character. |
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Faraer
Great Reader
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Posted - 09 Dec 2004 : 15:21:23
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That's interesting. I like the Simbul too, but as a character in the background -- and you can star in short stories and novels and still be in the background of the setting -- not exposed in the cold hard light of a book cover.
Of course I know, as THO says, that this has become a take-for-granted norm in the selling of the Realms: but I'm not gonna treat it as one. |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
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Posted - 09 Dec 2004 : 16:00:54
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I'm not really a huge fan of the Seven Sisters, so I personally would prefer to see some other characters in the spotlight. In particular, I should like to see more of Glarasteer Rhauligan.
O Lovely and Flirty Lady, when can you tell us more of the contents -- such as what familiar characters we can expect to see? |
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 09 Dec 2004 : 17:14:26
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
I'm not really a huge fan of the Seven Sisters, so I personally would prefer to see some other characters in the spotlight
Qilue and Laeral would be fun to read about. Otherwise, I'm with you on other characters. |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36804 Posts |
Posted - 09 Dec 2004 : 18:26:01
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Originally posted by SiriusBlack
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
I'm not really a huge fan of the Seven Sisters, so I personally would prefer to see some other characters in the spotlight
Qilue and Laeral would be fun to read about. Otherwise, I'm with you on other characters.
Yeah, I'd prefer to see more on them, rather than any others of the Seven. |
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 10 Dec 2004 : 03:07:30
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
Yeah, I'd prefer to see more on them, rather than any others of the Seven.
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
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Posted - 10 Dec 2004 : 03:57:14
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Originally posted by SiriusBlack
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
Yeah, I'd prefer to see more on them, rather than any others of the Seven.
You have a weakness for strong females my future Grand Poobah!
Of course! I am an enlightened kind of hamster. |
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The Hooded One
Lady Herald of Realmslore
5056 Posts |
Posted - 11 Dec 2004 : 15:05:27
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Ed has teasingly hinted to me that one of the stories features several of the Seven Sisters.
He also wanted you to know that at least one of the stories takes places during "the time when the realm of Athalantar yet flourished."
Ah, everybody loves a mystery . . .
love to all,
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36804 Posts |
Posted - 11 Dec 2004 : 16:00:09
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Originally posted by The Hooded One
Ed has teasingly hinted to me that one of the stories features several of the Seven Sisters.
He also wanted you to know that at least one of the stories takes places during "the time when the realm of Athalantar yet flourished."
Ah, everybody loves a mystery . . .
love to all,
THO
Especially a mysterious Lady in a hooded cloak... |
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Best of the Realms: The Stories of Ed Greenwood
