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Fletcher
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Posted - 05 May 2005 :  17:02:22  Show Profile  Visit Fletcher's Homepage Send Fletcher a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Started with first.
Enjoyed second ed. much more when it came out.
Skills and powers came at a time I joined with a power gamer group. (perfect timing!)
Third edition allowed for great freedom for all classes and races, and I loved it. There were a few holes. Quck example: Haste.
3.5 is awesome. Still a few holes, but much, much better. I wouldn't turn the clock back.

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Shere Khan
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Posted - 08 May 2005 :  00:28:27  Show Profile  Visit Shere Khan's Homepage Send Shere Khan a Private Message  Reply with Quote

I started with Basic and then moved onto Expert. But I've played (and DM'd) so much 1st ed AD&D that the rules are permanently engraved in my head. When 2nd ed came out I was greatly disappointed. It wasn't the total redesign I was hoping it would be and seemed merely a way to make a quick buck by getting everyone to buy new books that were mostly filler. I liked my house rules for 1st ed more then the minor changes made in 2nd ed anyway. So I stayed with my own modified version of 1st ed like so many others at the time. D&D's game books were all sanitized and even the novels seemed to get rather dull at the time due to the stifling political correctness that seemed to take over the company. It's unfortunate that 2nd ed wasn't more like 3rd ed which was a true rewrite. I probably would have tried it out then. Instead I moved over to competing game systems that had more realistic characters, and less sanitized settings. Things have since improved somewhat, But I unfortunately just haven't had the time to get into 3.0/3.5 since they've come out. I'm more into story than rules now. I'll read the occasional novel, but I play only very rarely these days unlike when I was younger. Nevertheless I'm glad to see that the game is thriving once again. Maybe I'll pick up the main books for 3.5 one of these days...
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Thrasymachus
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DM'd 1st Edition forever, and when the gaming group moved to the corners of the earth we switched to an electronic version, so we are now using 3.0 cause it is the hand dealt to us.
Took a bit of getting use to, but we like it just fine now.
Ugrading to 3.5 in a year


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warlockco
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Posted - 15 Jun 2005 :  04:14:52  Show Profile  Visit warlockco's Homepage Send warlockco a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by The Sage

I cannot accurately nor completely place my vote for this poll. This is mainly because most of my current campaigns, while using the standard 3e ruleset, also combine a variety of rules and formats taken from d20 Modern, d20 Future, GURPS, and the SW d20 system. I also have a blending of rules taken from my own interpretation of the sphere grid advancement system which was "lifted" from Final Fantasy X.

As well as these formats, I've also incorporated a number of homebrew rulings which either supercede, or completely replace existing 3e rules.




I have to agree, I have stolen, err borrowed, yeah borrowed, ideals from varies sources. But the core is 3.5E since that gives me a base for my players to start from, anything beyond that, unless I have said so, or given approval, has to be introduced by me.

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warlockco
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Posted - 15 Jun 2005 :  04:17:24  Show Profile  Visit warlockco's Homepage Send warlockco a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

quote:
Originally posted by Kentinal

Also 1.5 UA I have yet to aquire, but one of these days.



I have that one... It was one of the first 1E books I got. I have all of the 1E and 2E hardcovers, and no desire to backtrack further than that.



You know, I think 2E was my fault. Because, right after I got my hands on the last 1E hardcover I needed, they started to roll 2E.

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Chosen of Moradin
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Posted - 15 Jun 2005 :  13:04:15  Show Profile  Visit Chosen of Moradin's Homepage Send Chosen of Moradin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I started with the 2nd Edition, some good years ago, and I´m very fond of the system, and of the good adventure moments that the AD&D give to me. But I go to the 3rd Edition, and now to the 3.5 Edition soon that I see the core books. They stay very well balanced, and, IMHO, help me to use in more creative ways my imagination.

Only a curiosity: when they start to talk about the 3rd Edition, I really start to desire that the rule system used was the system of the Alternity books! . I am a real big fan of Alternity, and I think that the system deserve a better treatment that to be sended to the Limbo...

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Ty
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Posted - 15 Jun 2005 :  20:09:21  Show Profile  Visit Ty's Homepage Send Ty a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Started with the original Dungeons and Dragons long, long ago and have gradually moved along as the game has. I've pretty much played each edition and in fits of pique like a dwarf, admonished each new edition as just being another money grab. Each time though, I've come to recognize the changes were merely the evolution of the original game, just as the original game was an evolution of wargaming. So, after that lengthy introduction, I've played through each edition and I too have made the shift to edition 3.5.
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Fletcher
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Posted - 15 Jun 2005 :  20:47:26  Show Profile  Visit Fletcher's Homepage Send Fletcher a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Chosen of Moradin

I started with the 2nd Edition, some good years ago, and I´m very fond of the system, and of the good adventure moments that the AD&D give to me. But I go to the 3rd Edition, and now to the 3.5 Edition soon that I see the core books. They stay very well balanced, and, IMHO, help me to use in more creative ways my imagination.

Only a curiosity: when they start to talk about the 3rd Edition, I really start to desire that the rule system used was the system of the Alternity books! . I am a real big fan of Alternity, and I think that the system deserve a better treatment that to be sended to the Limbo...



I miss alternity. I agree, it was a good system, that once you got used to it, was a blast to play. I also enjoyed the grittier, read not startrek universe. (I enjoyed Battletech, StarWars and MektonZ+)

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Darth KTrava
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Posted - 21 Jun 2005 :  01:28:23  Show Profile  Visit Darth KTrava's Homepage Send Darth KTrava a Private Message  Reply with Quote
3.5 although we still use elements out of 3.0 as well...

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Darth KTrava
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Posted - 21 Jun 2005 :  01:29:58  Show Profile  Visit Darth KTrava's Homepage Send Darth KTrava a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by SiriusBlack

quote:
Originally posted by the psychotic seaotter

I think I'll hold out for the 6.9 edition



I can only imagine the promotional tie-ins for such a product.



Only available at a "Mature" bookstore in your area.

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Sadonayerah Odrydin
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Posted - 27 Jun 2005 :  20:02:06  Show Profile  Visit Sadonayerah Odrydin's Homepage Send Sadonayerah Odrydin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
My boyfriend got me hooked on 3.5. Other than that, I usually play 3rd edition. (But definitely prefer 3.5).

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Forge
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Posted - 27 Jun 2005 :  20:08:53  Show Profile  Visit Forge's Homepage Send Forge a Private Message  Reply with Quote
3.5 is what I marked down, but I have plenty of 2ed books and even with 3.5 there are a lot of stuff from 3.0 that is still used/adapted etc...
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Crennen FaerieBane
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Posted - 27 Jun 2005 :  23:58:03  Show Profile Send Crennen FaerieBane a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Forge

3.5 is what I marked down, but I have plenty of 2ed books and even with 3.5 there are a lot of stuff from 3.0 that is still used/adapted etc...



I'm exactly the same way... I have a huge collection of 2ed stuff, and I may not exactly use the system anymore, but I do use all the information.. and every once and a while, my group and I get nostalgic and bust out the 1st Ed PHB... ahhh, to have titles with your level.. that's awesome!

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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 28 Jun 2005 :  02:50:01  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by CrennenFaerieBane

quote:
Originally posted by Forge

3.5 is what I marked down, but I have plenty of 2ed books and even with 3.5 there are a lot of stuff from 3.0 that is still used/adapted etc...



I'm exactly the same way... I have a huge collection of 2ed stuff, and I may not exactly use the system anymore, but I do use all the information.. and every once and a while, my group and I get nostalgic and bust out the 1st Ed PHB... ahhh, to have titles with your level.. that's awesome!

C-Fb



Y'all aren't the only ones to still have large amounts of 1E and 2E material.

Though, to be honest, I came aboard shortly after 2E came out. Most of the 1E stuff I have has been acquired more recently.

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The Sage
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Posted - 28 Jun 2005 :  03:25:57  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

quote:
Originally posted by CrennenFaerieBane

quote:
Originally posted by Forge

3.5 is what I marked down, but I have plenty of 2ed books and even with 3.5 there are a lot of stuff from 3.0 that is still used/adapted etc...



I'm exactly the same way... I have a huge collection of 2ed stuff, and I may not exactly use the system anymore, but I do use all the information.. and every once and a while, my group and I get nostalgic and bust out the 1st Ed PHB... ahhh, to have titles with your level.. that's awesome!

C-Fb



Y'all aren't the only ones to still have large amounts of 1E and 2E material.

Though, to be honest, I came aboard shortly after 2E came out. Most of the 1E stuff I have has been acquired more recently.

Most of my 1e and 2e material was acquired as it was released. Granted I've missed the odd tome here and there, but I've always managed to pick-up a copy in order to maintain a complete library of all the published D&D lore (not including every single Dragon article).

I've also missed one or two 2e adventures, but they're mostly because I never had the opportunity to purchase them when they were released. I'm tracking down copies though...

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Vangelor
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I have to say 3.5 because I only came to Faerun in PnP recently, having been drawn to explore the setting more thoroughly after playing Neverwinter Nights.

Say what you like about NWN and I will likely agree... But it got me to give the Realms a closer look, which persuaded me to set a game there... which persuaded me to take up PnP D&D again after a long, long absence.

Previously, I had played AD&D. Yes, my absence was that long!
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Charon
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Posted - 29 Jun 2005 :  04:50:45  Show Profile  Visit Charon's Homepage Send Charon a Private Message  Reply with Quote
v 3.5 all the way...its great
theres so many options plus its the only one i have played

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Arlenion
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Posted - 30 Jun 2005 :  16:56:07  Show Profile  Visit Arlenion's Homepage Send Arlenion a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I play 3E simply because I haven't managed to get the 3.5E rules.
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Thureen Buroch
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I play 3E, with a few house rules. My main house rule, in terms of the way it differs from 3E, is this:

A natural 20 is not necessarily a hit/success. If it woudn't hit the opponents armor class normally, it's not a hit (I allow a second d20 roll, though, if this is a natural 20, then it's a hit). Same with a natural 1. Not necessarily a miss/failure unless a second d20 roll is also a 1.

Another house rule would be the parry option. This can be seen elsewhere on this site. It's under Traveler's Notebooks in Alaundo's Library. From there, scroll down about a fourth of the way to Realms Fighting Styles (this is for 2E) or, below that, Realms Fighting Styles-3rd Edition (this is for 3E)

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ode904
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I don't play but i like 3.5e the most. It's hmm.. more simple in my opinion, but don't comment on that I don't play I had just read about it
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Prince Forge of Avalon
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Posted - 07 Jul 2005 :  04:18:11  Show Profile  Visit Prince Forge of Avalon's Homepage Send Prince Forge of Avalon a Private Message  Reply with Quote
We are currently playing 3.5 rules with allot of house rules to try to keep the 2nd Ed feel, for some reason I always liked 2nd ED.

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Faramicos
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Posted - 07 Jul 2005 :  20:09:00  Show Profile  Visit Faramicos's Homepage Send Faramicos a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I favor and use the AD&D 2nd edition... I havent switched over to the next edition in line due to the simple fact that when it was launched i had spent about 1.000.000.000.000.000...... or so on 2nd edition material. So i was to cheap to switch over. I have though made some homemade improvements and houserules such as hit locations and a system using Heropoints allowing the players to spend XP on buying these points which gives them some advantages in a single role of the die and allowing them to do some realy cool heroic stunts... Of course there are also Villainpoints for the main villains... If balanced well it realy works.

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Faraer
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Posted - 08 Jul 2005 :  00:36:22  Show Profile  Visit Faraer's Homepage Send Faraer a Private Message  Reply with Quote
No ruleset, as written, represents the feel of the Realms particularly well. That's not surprising, because they weren't created to. For a Realms campaign I would use -- very loosely -- 2nd edition AD&D partly because I prefer its design philosophy and its look and feel to 3E, partly because while some of 3E's spurious (to my needs) complexities can be relatively easily ignored, feats can't because they're factored into the construction of the classes.

During the 1990s D&D didn't have as strong/rigid a central design philosophy as it does now, and instead multiple sets of conventions appeared -- including Ed Greenwood's, and I'm thinking mainly of spell-construction here. It's a shame this tradition was cut short and that there's now a disconnect between Ed's writing and the rules.

For a World of Greyhawk campaign I'd use the original AD&D.

For other fantasy campaigns I'd probably use some other system altogether.

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Zimme
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Yeah well i play both 2nd and 3rd, but chose 3rd in the poll, ageed it is not a poll where you can specify your gaming system, but it is hardly something earthshattering wrong!

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Jorkens
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And Resurrection has been cast.

I use the 2ed. most of the time; I have always had a soft spot for basic D&D, but not for the Realms. 1ed. mixes in with 2ed. and the newer versions holds no appeal at all to me. Then there are the realms with other systems.
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Drakul
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3.5E all the way baby.

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Faramicos
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Posted - 08 Sep 2006 :  13:01:02  Show Profile  Visit Faramicos's Homepage Send Faramicos a Private Message  Reply with Quote
i am playing 2nd edition... Not so active a roleplayer that it is necesary to invest in the following editions. 2nd edition works for me and my players and we have played it for quite some years now.

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Raelan
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Posted - 08 Sep 2006 :  14:58:02  Show Profile  Visit Raelan's Homepage Send Raelan a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Well, if I still had a gaming group I'd be playing 3.5. Much as I loved 2nd Edition Skills and Powers, 3.5 just has a lot more options available and the rules set is quite a bit better at covering various situations that arise in the game.

That said, I miss a lot of the old school Realms spells and magical items. There were a number of really strange and cool effects that just didn't make it into 3.5, either for balance purposes or just because they haven't been addressed. For instance, while the Spell Mantle feat allows spellcasters to hang a spell and have it activate later, it just doesn't match the potent defensive abilities attributed to true mantles from the novels. While I can see why the Mantle spell from Secrets of the Magister didn't make it into 3.5 or even 3.0 (i.e. overpowered for the rules set), it's a bit of flavor and Realmslore that is sorely missed.

On the plus side, however, most of the 2nd Edition Realms products were more focused on world information than game rules, meaning my massive collection of 1st and 2nd Ed. Forgotten Realms stuff (I have every boxed set--except The Horde and, oddly enough, the 1st Ed. campaign setting--as well as most of the non-adventure accessories) was not totally trumped by the edition change.

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quote:
Originally posted by Raelan

On the plus side, however, most of the 2nd Edition Realms products were more focused on world information than game rules, meaning my massive collection of 1st and 2nd Ed. Forgotten Realms stuff (I have every boxed set--except The Horde and, oddly enough, the 1st Ed. campaign setting--as well as most of the non-adventure accessories) was not totally trumped by the edition change.
Are you aware that the WotC site offers The Horde boxed set as a legal and free PDF download?

See here:- http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/dnd/downloads

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GothicDan
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I very much agree with Faraer, here.

Each and every RPG world/region/etc. can be best represented by mechanics that specifically encourage the idiosyncrasies inherent to it. Personal DMing styles aside (since that makes the analysis of a game edition about as useful as the 'analysis' of a poem), I prefer the 2E design philosophy in most cases, with some of the more streamlined mechanisms that 3E offers. The only parts about 3E that I truly like are BAB (to a point - I don't like the stacking between classes), saves (same as BAB), and skillpoints.

Truthfully, the best D20 system I've seen in a long time is A Game of Thrones. I really love how they said, right out, "We took out feats that promoted powergaming."

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