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arilyn742
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Ireland
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 Posted - 24 Nov 2004 : 14:36:23
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How does Danilo gather that his mother has elven blood when Khelben tells him that Laerel's mother (I'm not too sure about what Laerel has to do with anything, but anyway...) was half-elven? What's the relationship between Khelben, Laerel and Cassandra, exactly?
I don't get this. Isn't Khelben Danilo's uncle?
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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Posted - 24 Nov 2004 : 16:01:18
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How Danilo finds out about his mother's elven blood is revealed a bit later in the book...
Khelben is not, technically, Danilo's uncle. According to Steven Schend (the Khelben expert), Cassandra Thann is Khelben Arunsun's granddaughter. She had a younger half-brother who was also named Khelben, but she was never close to him.
At some point, Khelben the Blackstaff exchanged places with Khelben the younger. The younger was shipped off elsewhere -- Oerth (Greyhawk), I believe. Since Cassandra wasn't close to her little brother, she assumed that the changes in his personality were due to his studies of magic (Khelben the Younger was secretly trained by Khelben the Elder). Going by the timeline of Khelben's life that Steven Schend provided, I'd say this likely happened around 1325 or so.
So there aren't many people that know that Khelben's big sister is, in fact, his granddaughter -- not even her. Steven said this:
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Actually, from my perspective, ONLY Danilo knows/understands that Khelben is not who he poses as. Cassandra is not all that close to her half-brother, and his training as a mage kept him even more at arms' length as it was something he shared with their father that she couldn't. As far as Cassandra's concerned (though Elaine may have another interpretation of this, which is to be considered canonical as Cassandra's her character), Khelben is her little brother who acts all the more mysterious because of the powers he wields.....
Of others in Waterdeep, here're my guesses as to who knows he's not who he poses as (though they may not know exactly who he is): Kyriani (Agrivar), Mirt the Moneylender, Kitten, a few elves whose names escape me now, Maskar Wands (who actually may know the truth), Maaril & Hlanta Melshimber (both of whom suspect but know very little), and a smattering of others.
All of this info is of course from various postings by the esteemed sage Schend.  |
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Lameth
Learned Scribe
Germany
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Posted - 24 Nov 2004 : 20:26:49
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At some point, Khelben the Blackstaff exchanged places with Khelben the younger. The younger was shipped off elsewhere -- Oerth (Greyhawk), I believe.
Did Khelben the younger leave his home by free will or what? |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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Posted - 24 Nov 2004 : 23:07:29
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Originally posted by Lameth
At some point, Khelben the Blackstaff exchanged places with Khelben the younger. The younger was shipped off elsewhere -- Oerth (Greyhawk), I believe.
Did Khelben the younger leave his home by free will or what?
I believe he did, but I'd have to wait until I get home to check... If I don't have the info, I'll e-mail Steven Schend and ask. |
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The Hooded One
Lady Herald of Realmslore
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Posted - 25 Nov 2004 : 02:32:16
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The short answer to the question of whether K the Younger left home of his own free will is: yes.
But Master Schend, the Keeper of Khelben, can spin that tale better than anyone.
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arilyn742
Seeker
Ireland
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Posted - 25 Nov 2004 : 21:44:06
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Domo arigato gozaimasu (that means thanks ), Wooly Rupert et al.
But in The Dream Spheres (one of my main sources on Waterdeep ), the implication was the Cassandra knew of her elven blood (how couldn't she?) and was trying to cover it up (eg, by buying youth potions to make it seem as though she didn't naturally look younger than she is). That doesn't seem to fit.
EDIT: GAH! On principle I wouldn't allow circonflexes to stay in a Japanese word in roma-ji. |
Yonde iru, mune no doko ka oku de
Itsumo kokoro odoru yume wo mitai
Kanashimi wa kazoekirenai keredo
Sono mukou de kitto anata ni aeru |
Edited by - arilyn742 on 25 Nov 2004 21:48:56 |
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arilyn742
Seeker
Ireland
54 Posts |
Posted - 25 Nov 2004 : 21:46:52
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
How Danilo finds out about his mother's elven blood is revealed a bit later in the book...
Wait... I distinctly recall Danilo saying as soon as Khelben tells him that Laerel's mother was half-elven that ther was elven blood in the family after all, or somethin like that. |
Yonde iru, mune no doko ka oku de
Itsumo kokoro odoru yume wo mitai
Kanashimi wa kazoekirenai keredo
Sono mukou de kitto anata ni aeru |
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