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hammer of Moradin
Senior Scribe
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 Posted - 22 Nov 2004 : 04:28:27
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Poll Question:
Outside of the Forgotten Realms Campaign Setting sourcebook, which accessory is most helpful to you?
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hammer of Moradin
Senior Scribe
USA
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Posted - 22 Nov 2004 : 04:31:00
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| Most of my campaigns are set in the Silver Marches, so this is the book I go to most often. |
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Capn Charlie
Senior Scribe
USA
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Posted - 22 Nov 2004 : 04:45:49
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Well, for "most useful" I must say, the "Forgotten Realms Campaign Setting".
For the one I think is the neatest, "Aurora's Whole Realms Catalogue". |
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hammer of Moradin
Senior Scribe
USA
758 Posts |
Posted - 22 Nov 2004 : 05:33:15
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Of course the FRCS is the most useful, which is why I so wisely left it off the choices!
Oh yeah, in case you didn't guess I am referring to v.3/v.3.5 here. |
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Kajehase
Great Reader
Sweden
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Posted - 22 Nov 2004 : 06:31:19
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Not sure it's the one I have most use of, but since I have trouble remembering the rules for magic I'd have to say that "Magic of Faerûn" is the one I look through most often...
Although regardless of it being 2nd edition books I still find "Empires of the Shining Sea" and "Lands of Intrigue" to be the two books I use most in planning and setting up games for play. |
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George Krashos
Master of Realmslore
Australia
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Posted - 22 Nov 2004 : 09:00:05
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"Races of Faerun" for me - Eric's work on the human histories and differing races is one of the most useful 3E FR additions.
As for 2E, I just love "Code of the Harpers", "Secrets of the Magister" and "Volo's Guide to All Things Magical" - they just keep throwing up new stuff and ideas to run with as I read Ed's multi-layered Fr offerings.
Similarly, for 1E my all-time favourite is FR11 Dwarves Deep. I'll be one very happy FR fan when we get to see a "Clans of the Stout Folk" product for 3E. But, I think I'm indulging in a bit of wishful thinking ... 
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tauster
Senior Scribe
Germany
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Posted - 22 Nov 2004 : 09:14:27
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i think the answer really depends on where your campaign focus lies. someone dm-ing in thay is bound to use unapproachable east more than silvery marches even though he perhaps finds the latter superior the the former.
personally, if find underdark most useful as one of my campaigns centers around the "night below". many things there come from 2e- sources i already have, but there are enough new things in to find excuses for browsing the tome on a regular basis, even though we still use the rules of 2nd edition.
otherwise i concur with george: secrets opf the magister for me is THE single best book ever written for the realms, but that´s just a personal opinion. there are a lot of tomes that have almost the same degree of usefulness (and entertainment-value), like drizzt do´urdens guide to the underdark, code of the harpers, the dragon cult, cloak and dagger, most of the various regional accessories, ...[voice trailing off]
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Capn Charlie
Senior Scribe
USA
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Posted - 22 Nov 2004 : 13:29:16
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Well, for me, it is "Player's Guide to Faerun". Mainly because it is the one I USE at the table the most. The others, for the msot part, once I have read them, I don't particularly need to read the magain, and jsut occasionally reference one, if I am doing some in depth campaign work or need to reference some obscure fact.
I keep using hte PGTF constantly, I jsut cannot seem to do the above with tables, spells, rules, etc. So every time I use a feat, spell, item, or class from there, I have to go straight back to it. |
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hammer of Moradin
Senior Scribe
USA
758 Posts |
Posted - 22 Nov 2004 : 14:27:11
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Originally posted by George Krashos
Similarly, for 1E my all-time favourite is FR11 Dwarves Deep. I'll be one very happy FR fan when we get to see a "Clans of the Stout Folk" product for 3E. But, I think I'm indulging in a bit of wishful thinking ...
-- George Krashos
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
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Posted - 22 Nov 2004 : 16:25:36
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quote:
Originally posted by George Krashos
Similarly, for 1E my all-time favourite is FR11 Dwarves Deep. I'll be one very happy FR fan when we get to see a "Clans of the Stout Folk" product for 3E. But, I think I'm indulging in a bit of wishful thinking ...
-- George Krashos
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Faraer
Great Reader
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Posted - 22 Nov 2004 : 16:27:26
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Unfortunately, the fact that core-D&D is getting multiple race books and the Realms has got one is a simple instance of commercial and artistic needs being at odds.
FR11 was during second edition, and came out the same month as FA1! That was a good month. |
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Elrond Half Elven
Learned Scribe
United Kingdom
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Posted - 22 Nov 2004 : 17:34:40
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I have found RoF, LoD, MoF, and SM most useful but again thats just based on my Campaign. I've found ALL the books useful at one time or another (Well all that I have I've not yet gotten Around to buying F&P, PGtF, SK, SS and UE).
The Underdark I thought was a good Generic Accessory I was also quiet happy that it wasn't solely devoted to the Drow.
Races of Faerun was a good solid attempt as a Race book. I feel everything I need about Races is in this book so I wont be hurrying out to purchase any of the Generic books
Lords of Darkness is a Good summary of Evil groups in the realms, however I would like to see one for the Good/Neutral Groups also.
Magic of Faerun I feel explains the workings of magic alot better than FRCS its a nice wee book packed full of information.
The silver Marches is a great wee regional accessory (Maybe I'm bias because it was one of the first 3E books I bought!)
I normally suppliment the books with some of the great lore availible at Candlekeep additionally I also use the "Silverymoon Guide" accessory.
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Lord Rad
Great Reader
United Kingdom
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Posted - 22 Nov 2004 : 18:09:29
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I agree with tausters point... It's a difficult poll as it all depends on what campaign you're running at the time. I've voted for Shining South, simply because I love this book and is one of the best sourcebooks i've seen in a long while, and whilst I run my campaign up in the Dalelands\Cormyr area, this product has made me work a way to get down into the Shining South for the campaign 
Silver Marches is also a favorite of mine, but overall, I was very impressed with the aforementioned poll choice. |
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Keravin
Seeker
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Posted - 23 Nov 2004 : 11:57:04
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Of the ones listed I think it is probably Races. I'm running in Sembia so the most useful books have been FR Adventures and Cloak and Dagger.
I'm still annoyed over how useless in relative terms the Players Guide is to me. |
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DDH_101
Master of Realmslore
Canada
1272 Posts |
Posted - 23 Nov 2004 : 23:54:49
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| Faiths & Pantheons. When I was playing, a lot of the quests and campaigns that my DM focused on had something to do with religion. |
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Kiaransalyn
Senior Scribe
United Kingdom
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Posted - 24 Nov 2004 : 14:39:45
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I voted for Faiths and Pantheons since, to my mind, it provided a good level of information on the various deities and subsequently the various races who revere them. This knowledge of the various major themes in Faerûn, that is the religions, has helped me tailor my campaigns. I also just enjoy reading it for pleasure from time to time.
The region specific books, such as Shining South and Silver Marches although being fairly good reads are only really useful if your campaign is set there.
I actually consider the Player's Guide rather useless and haven't looked at it since the first week of purchasing it. The large number of player gimmicks, such as Regional Feats put me off it.
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
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Posted - 24 Nov 2004 : 16:03:58
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Kiaransalyn and DDH_01, if y'all liked Faiths & Pantheons, you should look at the original books of deities: Faiths & Avatars, Powers & Pantheons, and Demihuman Deities.
Faiths & Pantheons is but a pale imitation of those three 2E books. And even though the books were 2E, since much of what was in there was pure lore, it still applies and can be used with no modification. |
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DDH_101
Master of Realmslore
Canada
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Posted - 25 Nov 2004 : 00:13:28
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| Wooly, I can't find those, not even from downloading. Lol. |
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Kuje
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 25 Nov 2004 : 01:11:41
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Originally posted by DDH_101
Wooly, I can't find those, not even from downloading. Lol.
RPGNOW.COM has 2 of the 3 of them. :) I guess no one wanted to donate the one rpgnow.com is missing or WOTC canceled the ESD program before it could be scanned and put on sale. |
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Kiaransalyn
Senior Scribe
United Kingdom
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Posted - 25 Nov 2004 : 14:47:05
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
Kiaransalyn and DDH_01, if y'all liked Faiths & Pantheons, you should look at the original books of deities: Faiths & Avatars, Powers & Pantheons, and Demihuman Deities.
I agree with everything you say. I have those three books with Demihuman Deities being an especial favourite. Do you have the 1st Edition Deities and Demigods? It's interesting looking at how some of the gods have evolved, for example the Finnish Deities Loviatar and Mielikki. |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
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Posted - 25 Nov 2004 : 14:58:48
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Originally posted by Kiaransalyn
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
Kiaransalyn and DDH_01, if y'all liked Faiths & Pantheons, you should look at the original books of deities: Faiths & Avatars, Powers & Pantheons, and Demihuman Deities.
I agree with everything you say. I have those three books with Demihuman Deities being an especial favourite. Do you have the 1st Edition Deities and Demigods? It's interesting looking at how some of the gods have evolved, for example the Finnish Deities Loviatar and Mielikki.
I have both versions of the 1E DDG -- the first one, with the Cthulhu and Elric pantheons, and the later one, without them. |
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Kiaransalyn
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 25 Nov 2004 : 15:27:15
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
I have both versions of the 1E DDG -- the first one, with the Cthulhu and Elric pantheons, and the later one, without them.
I just have the one with Cthulhu and Melnibonéan mythoi, which I'm guessing of the two is best one to have. |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
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Posted - 25 Nov 2004 : 15:51:49
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Originally posted by Kiaransalyn
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
I have both versions of the 1E DDG -- the first one, with the Cthulhu and Elric pantheons, and the later one, without them.
I just have the one with Cthulhu and Melnibonéan mythoi, which I'm guessing of the two is best one to have.
Indeed! 'Tis my understanding that that was the first one, and, after a copyright infringement lawsuit, they had to pluck those two mythoi out and reprint the book. |
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Alaundo
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 25 Nov 2004 : 16:12:04
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
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Originally posted by Kiaransalyn
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
I have both versions of the 1E DDG -- the first one, with the Cthulhu and Elric pantheons, and the later one, without them.
I just have the one with Cthulhu and Melnibonéan mythoi, which I'm guessing of the two is best one to have.
Indeed! 'Tis my understanding that that was the first one, and, after a copyright infringement lawsuit, they had to pluck those two mythoi out and reprint the book.
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 25 Nov 2004 : 16:20:59
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Originally posted by Kiaransalyn
I agree with everything you say. I have those three books with Demihuman Deities being an especial favourite.
What did you find in Faiths and Pantheons that made it so appealing since you have the previously published three? |
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Kiaransalyn
Senior Scribe
United Kingdom
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Posted - 25 Nov 2004 : 16:37:24
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Originally posted by SiriusBlack
What did you find in Faiths and Pantheons that made it so appealing since you have the previously published three?
I think firstly, it's fair to mention that my comments about Faiths and Pantheons was in reply to the original question and the choice provided in hammer of Moradin's poll.
With respect to your question one of the things that appeals to me about Faiths and Pantheons compared to the aforementioned trio was the colour artwork, as well as the hardcover. Obviously, the depth of material in the 2nd edition trio is better, certainly with respect to the less well-known deities such as Kiaransalee whose entry in Faith's and Pantheons was much reduced.
Alaundo - I'm sorry for going off-topic earlier . |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
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Posted - 25 Nov 2004 : 16:48:29
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Originally posted by Alaundo
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
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Originally posted by Kiaransalyn
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
I have both versions of the 1E DDG -- the first one, with the Cthulhu and Elric pantheons, and the later one, without them.
I just have the one with Cthulhu and Melnibonéan mythoi, which I'm guessing of the two is best one to have.
Indeed! 'Tis my understanding that that was the first one, and, after a copyright infringement lawsuit, they had to pluck those two mythoi out and reprint the book.
Ahem Most useful "Forgotten Realms" accessory, I believe
Um, it's not entirely off-topic, Big Al. After all, some deities that later appeared in the Realms can be found in that early tome.
Was that a good enough excuse? |
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Alaundo
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Reefy
Senior Scribe
United Kingdom
892 Posts |
Posted - 26 Nov 2004 : 03:06:13
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| For me I'd say Silver Marches given that's where my campaign is set and I really like the area. Outside of the regional books I'd have voted for Races Of Faerûn. |
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Melfius
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Posted - 17 Dec 2004 : 04:28:19
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While my choice is also not on the list, I would still vote for Lands of Intrigue. Great detail on the locales, and many a dangling plotline for DMs to work with.
When it came out, I was running a campaign set in Aglarond, where the PCs were working for the Simbul in a fashion similar to the Knights of Myth Drannor (she hired them because of El's crowing about the Shadowdale group). Once I read LoI, I immediately had the Simbul 'loan out' her group to King Haedrick to help with his burgeoning nation. |
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Seismo
Acolyte
New Zealand
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Posted - 25 Dec 2004 : 19:56:03
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Maybe we need a 'most useful 2nd Ed FR accessory' poll?
I'd do it, but I wouldn't know many to put in.
Other than FR Adventures, of course.
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Most useful Forgotten Realms Accessory?
