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Senbar Flay
Learned Scribe
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 Posted - 13 Nov 2004 : 04:50:19
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greetings!
I have a few qwestions i have recently been confused about.
1)Was there ever a time in realms history people could travel between crystal spheres?
2)Are the other campaign spheres like Mystara and ravenloft in space as well or is it just Realmspace Krynnspace and greyspace.
3)I have looked at the spelljammer Setting and it said some weird stuff but is the fleet and aliens actually in the realms or just in spelljammer.
4)I am pretty sure what this is but the multiverse that's thw whole gathering of everything right correct me if i am wrong.
also i was wondering is any of the spelljammer material and info actuaqlly in the seperat realms setting?
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Wood Elf Ranger
Senior Scribe
USA
627 Posts |
Posted - 13 Nov 2004 : 07:59:05
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I believe these questions would be more propery asked here.  |
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Kuje
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 13 Nov 2004 : 18:18:16
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Originally posted by Senbar Flay
greetings!
I have a few qwestions i have recently been confused about.
1)Was there ever a time in realms history people could travel between crystal spheres?
2)Are the other campaign spheres like Mystara and ravenloft in space as well or is it just Realmspace Krynnspace and greyspace.
3)I have looked at the spelljammer Setting and it said some weird stuff but is the fleet and aliens actually in the realms or just in spelljammer.
4)I am pretty sure what this is but the multiverse that's thw whole gathering of everything right correct me if i am wrong.
also i was wondering is any of the spelljammer material and info actuaqlly in the seperat realms setting?
1) They were in 2e, but 3e split them into seperate different Prime Material Planes.
2) Again there were in 2e, but 3e has split them into seperate different Prime Material Planes. Also Ravenloft were never a crystal sphere and it is a demiplane on the Ethereal.
3) Spelljammer was, and still is according to Rich and the FRCS, part of the realms. Just like in 2e the Realms used the same planes as the rest of the worlds on the one Prime Material Plane.
4) In 2e there was just the multiverse but now there are thousands of planes and thousands of seperate and different Prime Material Planes. |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36874 Posts |
Posted - 13 Nov 2004 : 19:57:06
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Spelljammer was created for two things: it took the game into space, and it allowed for a non-planar means of transport between the game worlds.
Several Realms nations have played with spelljamming. The Netherese discovered it but ignored it. Some Halruaans know of it. Some nations of the Kara-Tur, most notably Wa and Shou Lung, have space fleets. Thay has made a few ventures into space. Evermeet has had contact with the Elven Imperial Navy.
The mists of Ravenloft can reach into wildspace, but that's the only way you'll ever get a spelljammer there.
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Forlorn
Seeker
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Posted - 15 Nov 2004 : 18:29:00
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If I m not mistaken mind flayers are considered as aliens in realmspace and once called primal material plane but now to my understanding in all material planes.
I believe it is possible to travel from one primal plane to another in both spells and mundane (of course not so mundane) means of transportation.
But Sigil as an example is told ot be in the central of the multiverse or outerplanes. If there are thousands of multiverses does Sigil belong to only one and in every multiverse are there different outerplanes?
Or was just the meaning of the multiverse changed? I mean, are the primal material planes now considered as multiverses and are they connected to each other as they were before? |
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Bakra
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 15 Nov 2004 : 20:13:23
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The Dungeon Magazine had an issue that dealt with the return of Spelljammer in 3e plus and unpdate to current events. Crystal Spheres are still around and the Second Unhuman War ended with the evil humanoids defeated...but the Elven Fleet was severly crippled pehaps beyond repair. As for other issues falling back to 2e lore, Ravenloft was known to invade the Spelljammer setting and draw in ships through the Mists. Mystra, Dark Sun, and Birthright were considered closed spheres.
<<But Sigil as an example is told ot be in the central of the multiverse or outerplanes. If there are thousands of multiverses does Sigil belong to only one and in every multiverse are there different outerplanes? Or was just the meaning of the multiverse changed? I mean, are the primal material planes now considered as multiverses and are they connected to each other as they were before?>>
The answer to these questions is yes.
Also do not forget if you are the DM, then what you want goes.
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So saith Ed. <snip>
love to all,
THO
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Dracandos the Spellsage
Senior Scribe
466 Posts |
Posted - 15 Nov 2004 : 22:23:28
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| i dont much like the idea of the realms being taken into space. to me it borders on crossing into to much technology of the realms, which many of the scribes here from when i first became a scribe in these halls know i am very much against |
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Kuje
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 15 Nov 2004 : 22:42:37
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Originally posted by Dracandos the Spellsage
i dont much like the idea of the realms being taken into space. to me it borders on crossing into to much technology of the realms, which many of the scribes here from when i first became a scribe in these halls know i am very much against
Except FR always had technology before this. Smoke powder, the flying ships of Haluraa, etc. |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36874 Posts |
Posted - 15 Nov 2004 : 23:14:51
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Originally posted by Dracandos the Spellsage
i dont much like the idea of the realms being taken into space. to me it borders on crossing into to much technology of the realms, which many of the scribes here from when i first became a scribe in these halls know i am very much against
No technology was involved. The means of travel thru space was magical -- a spellcaster sat in this chair, the chair siphoned off that person's spellcasting potential for the day (in other words, he or she lost their memorized spells), and it turned this siphoned off magical energy into movement for a ship.
But yeah, the concept of taking the campaign into space is a bit of a stretch, and though I loved it, that's likely part of what doomed the setting. |
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Forlorn
Seeker
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Posted - 15 Nov 2004 : 23:35:10
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Again tech against magic, lets just see magic is an alternative for tech and there is no tech in realms cuz there is no need. If there will be a boost in population there can be magi-tecnical items. But there is no technology. Some say smoke powder, I can make nitrogliserin in my house. Smoke powder is no tech. It is just a simple mundane chemical item. And believe in me there will be no uzies in realms for a very long time.
And lets beware of Alaundo's staff cuz this argument is going astray. |
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Kuje
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 16 Nov 2004 : 00:04:11
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Originally posted by Forlorn
Again tech against magic, lets just see magic is an alternative for tech and there is no tech in realms cuz there is no need. If there will be a boost in population there can be magi-tecnical items. But there is no technology. Some say smoke powder, I can make nitrogliserin in my house. Smoke powder is no tech. It is just a simple mundane chemical item. And believe in me there will be no uzies in realms for a very long time.
And lets beware of Alaundo's staff cuz this argument is going astray.
Actually smoke powder in FR isn't a mundane item at all and it's magical in nature so IT'S NOT gun powder. :) |
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Forlorn
Seeker
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Posted - 16 Nov 2004 : 00:18:14
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Originally posted by kuje31
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Originally posted by Forlorn
Again tech against magic, lets just see magic is an alternative for tech and there is no tech in realms cuz there is no need. If there will be a boost in population there can be magi-tecnical items. But there is no technology. Some say smoke powder, I can make nitrogliserin in my house. Smoke powder is no tech. It is just a simple mundane chemical item. And believe in me there will be no uzies in realms for a very long time.
And lets beware of Alaundo's staff cuz this argument is going astray.
Actually smoke powder in FR isn't a mundane item at all and it's magical in nature so IT'S NOT gun powder. :)
Ok then, there is no problem about it.
If I say so, it is so believe in me :)))))). |
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Crystal sphere travel and other.
