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Talanfir Swiftfeet
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Posted - 11 Nov 2005 :  17:07:47  Show Profile  Visit Talanfir Swiftfeet's Homepage Send Talanfir Swiftfeet a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by Kuje

In 3e, it would have been two different Moander's and Tyr's since it was a different Prime Material. :) And the Tyr of FR, and the other multisphereic deities, are not the same deities of the other planes, like they used to be in 2e.



So basicly if a ilmatari cleric goes to another Prime he/she will get spells from that worlds counterpart of Ilmater.

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Kuje
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Posted - 11 Nov 2005 :  17:23:03  Show Profile Send Kuje a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Talanfir Swiftfeet

So basicly if a ilmatari cleric goes to another Prime he/she will get spells from that worlds counterpart of Ilmater.



Pretty much, unless they have a spell key for the deity they originally worshiped, which would allow that deity to cross planar boundries and grant spells to his divine caster. :)

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Crennen FaerieBane
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Posted - 11 Nov 2005 :  18:15:19  Show Profile Send Crennen FaerieBane a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Spell Keys rule - they are the key to survival when cavorting about the multiverse through the planar gateways!

But, who says that the Ilmater counterpart would grant spells to him unless the deity decided he was also worthy?

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Talanfir Swiftfeet
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Posted - 12 Nov 2005 :  16:05:24  Show Profile  Visit Talanfir Swiftfeet's Homepage Send Talanfir Swiftfeet a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by CrennenFaerieBane


But, who says that the Ilmater counterpart would grant spells to him unless the deity decided he was also worthy?

C-Fb



I'm wondering more about paladins of Kelemvor getting spells in other primes, because lets face it most of the gods of death are evil.

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Wooly Rupert
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In the Spelljammer setting, traveling clerics had a couple of options for regaining spells... They could get their spells from a similar deity, they could find or found a church to their deity, or there was a spell they could cast to "call home". The contact home power spell was second level, and without deific contact, first and second level spells were all you could get. But once you cast that spell, you got spells the same as if you were on your home world.

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Cedric the Hunter
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Hey people, firstly I salute you all. Newcomer I am in these holy chambers of wisdom I seek the lore of the forgotten and my all wise friends please forgive this rookie for his ignorence.

Well this topic confused me. I read the avatar triology and corebooks of many sorts but do you have any source you can direct me ,tomes left forgotten and lay under dust maybe, or these things about multiverses, divine ranks above 20 and things out of realms are your comments and opinions based on known lore of Toril?

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The Sage
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Posted - 15 Nov 2005 :  01:04:03  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
You may want to take a look at the 3e Manual of the Planes... for multiversal details as it pertains to the generic D&D cosmology. And while I personally disagree with actually giving divine powers "stats" in the classic sense, I would suggest that the 3e Deities & Demigods tome might also provides some basic information about higher divine rankings. I'm not certain on that however as I've never actually completely read the book.

You've already read through this scroll, so most of the Realms deity books should already been known to you also, which should help you relate these details to the "known lore of Toril".

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