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Aleta_Delryn
Acolyte
Australia
38 Posts |
 Posted - 17 Oct 2004 : 12:07:51
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I always like the punching one- I forget how it properley goes- I think it's something like "You look, I punch" or something like that. & there was a comment that I've never fully understood "Don't teach my hamster to suck eggs" I've never understood that- expect it sounds pointless
When BG 1 I never had Minsc- mainly caus I couldn't finish his quest to keep him around (there was a problem with my Gnoll Stronghold bit), so I subsitued him for Khalid (mainly caus I wanted Jaheria around) |
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Neil
Learned Scribe
Canada
107 Posts |
Posted - 17 Oct 2004 : 13:03:27
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Originally posted by Aleta_Delryn
isn't there a 'H' in Bodi? like Bodhi? or are you refering to a completely different character?
Yes. They're both Bohdi. Haven't seen either Bohdi in a while, so I degenerated into spelling it like it sounded, out of old age and forgetfulness. |
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Ryss Firemaster
Acolyte
Denmark
30 Posts |
Posted - 17 Oct 2004 : 17:45:13
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| Did the three main villains (Sarevok, Irenicus and Melissan) come from that campaign as well? |
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Neil
Learned Scribe
Canada
107 Posts |
Posted - 17 Oct 2004 : 18:42:12
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Originally posted by Ryss Firemaster
Did the three main villains (Sarevok, Irenicus and Melissan) come from that campaign as well?
If I remember correctly, Jon Irenicus was one of the main Red Wizards that antagonized our party during the Great Faerunian War. I don't recall Sarevok or Melissan as major antagonists, since our main opponents were the Xanathar's Thieves Guild, the Shadow Thieves, Manshoon and the Zhentarim (god, we hated Manshoon. He was probably the most feared villian we went up against), the Red Wizards of Thay (until, in one of our last sessions before James moved away, Thay was devastated by the Demon of Eltabbar), and in the end, the Greyhawk Army that attacked the Sword Coast. The idea was that we were Khelben Blackstaff's troubleshooting Harper teams, until Manshoon killed Blackstaff, and then we became Malchor Harpell's troubleshooting Harper team. Thus, while those were our main opponents, we would occasionally make shadowruns against pretty much every Harper opponent there was, from the Moonshaes to T'u Lung and from Vaasa to Zakhara.
So the other two might have been there, but I just can't remember them. |
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Ryss Firemaster
Acolyte
Denmark
30 Posts |
Posted - 17 Oct 2004 : 18:50:13
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Thanks for the info. It's nice to find that the makers of the game drew from several sources. 
But that "Greyhawk army" attacking the Sword Coast does get a 
Can you remember what happened there? |
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Neil
Learned Scribe
Canada
107 Posts |
Posted - 17 Oct 2004 : 21:41:16
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Originally posted by Ryss Firemaster
But that "Greyhawk army" attacking the Sword Coast does get a
Can you remember what happened there?
Well, the Great Faerunian War was almost over. Calimshan and Amn had settled themselves down, mostly at the expense of the western Lake of Steam, Tethyr and the lands south of Baldur's Gate. The Zhentarim had been stopped by a combined force of Cormyr, the Lord's Alliance and the remaining Free Dales, although much of the Dalelands fell under Zhent sway. The Red Wizards had used some sort of magical ritual to summon the tarrasque to destroy the Horde, before our adventure in Eltabbar resulted in the Great Chasm of Thay. However, what with the war, we hadn't realized that ships hadn't been coming back from Maztica for some time. And so we were in Waterdeep, trying to find a way to get Blackstaff resurrected, when these strange ships sailed into Waterdeep harbor, and started shooting the place up with cannons, while a small army landed south of the walls of Waterdeep.
What we eventually realized was that these were ships from a continent in the Utter West, beyond even Maztica. Which was where James had placed Oerik. It was advanced up to the 18th century in terms of technology, so we had to deal with rather irritating amounts of musketry. As I recall, they were actually from the Great Kingdom of Aerdy, but OOC we referred to them as 'The Greyhawk Army'.
In the end, we managed to turn them back by forcing them to fight us in the shadow of Mt. Waterdeep, and then releasing some of the Undermountain monsters from the Deep Levels into them, which routed them, although they established a beachhead by taking Daggerford and cut the Trade Way. And then, to make matters worse, we had to fight the hideously strong and magic resistant cthonic monster that we'd set lose upon the Greyhawk troops, which we barely managed to beat with the help of Malchor Harpell and Savengriff. While we were fighting the monsters back into Undermountain though, we discovered this ancient Netherese ritual spell to bring back Khelben, which we did with a bit of help from the Crazed Venturers, Allustriel and Laeral. And there was much rejoicing, until Manshoon made a deal with the Greyhawk army and we had to infiltrate the new fortress at Daggersford to sabotage firearms that were to be sold to the Zhentarim. But that's a whole 'nother story. |
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Aleta_Delryn
Acolyte
Australia
38 Posts |
Posted - 18 Oct 2004 : 08:44:26
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Which game is this? I don't think I've played it yet- though I could be wrong & have just forgotten it (I have a really bad memory)
What's with the destruction of the Sword Coast? Is it a common theme in these sort of games? Really weird |
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Neil
Learned Scribe
Canada
107 Posts |
Posted - 18 Oct 2004 : 12:23:40
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Originally posted by Aleta_Delryn
Which game is this? I don't think I've played it yet- though I could be wrong & have just forgotten it (I have a really bad memory)
It was James Ohlen's Forgotten Realms campaign, from which a fair number of the BG NPCs and at least one NWN NPC (Maughrim) are drawn. It was a D&D campaign that ran from about 1990 to about 1996.
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What's with the destruction of the Sword Coast? Is it a common theme in these sort of games? Really weird
Well, the Great Faerunian War and the Greyhawk invasion destroyed a lot of places. Tethyr, the Western Heartlands, the Dales, northeastern Cormyr, Aglarond and Thesk, as well as the Sword Coast were all totally savaged. Rashemen was halfway depopulated by first the Horde, and then Thay. Thay was utterly destroyed, apparently sucked into the Abyss. |
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Aleta_Delryn
Acolyte
Australia
38 Posts |
Posted - 19 Oct 2004 : 11:37:51
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wonderful with a sicken & horrified look on face
More Murder, Death & Destruction- just what we all need |
If at first I don't succeed...the wife won't let me forget |
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Neil
Learned Scribe
Canada
107 Posts |
Posted - 19 Oct 2004 : 17:31:06
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Originally posted by Aleta_Delryn
wonderful with a sicken & horrified look on face
More Murder, Death & Destruction- just what we all need
Indeed. Without these things to strengthen us, it is hard indeed to thrive. Sure there were times for diplomacy (when we attempted to bribe the Horde, functioning as emissaries to Azoun IV to help secure the alliance of Cormyr to Waterdeep), but there comes a time when a good dustup is neccessary.
Unless it's with Manshoon. Then you just run away. |
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Aleta_Delryn
Acolyte
Australia
38 Posts |
Posted - 20 Oct 2004 : 06:25:31
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laughing lightly
Well I'm sure that there's always a time to talk & a time to fight- just when it's fighting time- have tones of steel to back-up threats made- otherwise you tend to end up a little short on friends, allies, armies & a little bit dead |
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jameslt0
Seeker
USA
57 Posts |
Posted - 28 Oct 2004 : 01:55:04
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Originally posted by Alaundo
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Originally posted by jameslt0
Jahira
Well met
Ahem, mmmm, care to expand upon this, jameslt0? Any particular reason you mention Jahira?
Well, I think Jahira is one of the best NPC's. I just really liked her story. I found her very useful in the original BG. I really wanted to play thru romance with her in BGII. I would really like to create Jahira type character for NWN. Maybe for henchmen...I dont know. |
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Aleta_Delryn
Acolyte
Australia
38 Posts |
Posted - 04 Nov 2004 : 05:42:10
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I hate the fact in NWNs that you've only got one NPC with you/ henchman. I like the big parties where everyone's useful in their own special way (even if that way is annoying)
Also I've made a poll about Fav BG2 characters- there's Anomen, Jaheira, Minsc, Edwin, Imoen & I think Aerie. You guys are welcome to fill that out at your leisure |
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DDH_101
Master of Realmslore
Canada
1272 Posts |
Posted - 04 Nov 2004 : 06:30:21
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Originally posted by jameslt0
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Originally posted by Alaundo
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Originally posted by jameslt0
Jahira
Well met
Ahem, mmmm, care to expand upon this, jameslt0? Any particular reason you mention Jahira?
Well, I think Jahira is one of the best NPC's. I just really liked her story. I found her very useful in the original BG. I really wanted to play thru romance with her in BGII. I would really like to create Jahira type character for NWN. Maybe for henchmen...I dont know.
But Jaheria's romance story doesn't expand to ToB, does it? On the other hand, I think Aerie's is really good, as you end up having a baby with her at the end. |
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Ryss Firemaster
Acolyte
Denmark
30 Posts |
Posted - 04 Nov 2004 : 06:35:15
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| Yes, Jaheiras' romance does continue in ToB. There's not as much of it as one would have hoped, though. I kept being nervous that something had gone wrong, but since some of the romance dialogues are event-driven rather than the usual 1 hour of game time, there are sometime rather long waits inbetween. I have heard that the other three romances have more to them, but I haven't tried them myself yet. |
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Aleta_Delryn
Acolyte
Australia
38 Posts |
Posted - 04 Nov 2004 : 08:32:38
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All the romances should continue from SoA to Tob unless you said something wrong or didn't want one.
The romances are :-
Female character
Anomen
Male Character:-
Viconia
Aerie
Jaheria
Though I've heard that Aerie & Haer'Dalis have a minor fling, as does Aerie & Minsc (Aerie becomes Minsc's witch, but in my experience that only happens with a male character & you've turned Aerie down) |
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DDH_101
Master of Realmslore
Canada
1272 Posts |
Posted - 05 Nov 2004 : 00:14:31
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| Haer'dalis will eventually try and win Aerie from you. Then it comes down to how you respond to the situation and there will be many consequences. You could either lose or keep Aerie. However, even losing Aerie to Haer'dalis isn't TOO bad, as she later dumps him coz the two of them are too different. |
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Thelonius
Senior Scribe
Spain
730 Posts |
Posted - 06 Nov 2004 : 15:18:23
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Originally posted by DDH_101
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Originally posted by jameslt0
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Originally posted by Alaundo
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Originally posted by jameslt0
Jahira
Well met
Ahem, mmmm, care to expand upon this, jameslt0? Any particular reason you mention Jahira?
Well, I think Jahira is one of the best NPC's. I just really liked her story. I found her very useful in the original BG. I really wanted to play thru romance with her in BGII. I would really like to create Jahira type character for NWN. Maybe for henchmen...I dont know.
But Jaheria's romance story doesn't expand to ToB, does it? On the other hand, I think Aerie's is really good, as you end up having a baby with her at the end.
 You can have a baby with Aerie? First notice |
"If you are to truly understand, then you will need the contrast, not adherence to a single ideal." - Kreia
"I THINK I JUST HAD ANOTHER NEAR-RINCEWIND EXPERIENCE"- Discworld's Death frustrated after Rincewind scapes his grasp... again.
"I am death, come for thee" - Nimbul, from Baldur's Gate I just before being badly spanked
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Ryss Firemaster
Acolyte
Denmark
30 Posts |
Posted - 06 Nov 2004 : 15:28:59
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| It does, I believe take a lot of waiting. A whoooole lot of waiting.... |
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DDH_101
Master of Realmslore
Canada
1272 Posts |
Posted - 06 Nov 2004 : 18:01:04
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| You have the baby like near the end of ToB. She'll tell you she's pregnant and then you go through stuff like giving your son a name. I chose Gorion (I think that was like the only good option). |
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Aleta_Delryn
Acolyte
Australia
38 Posts |
Posted - 07 Nov 2004 : 05:25:20
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When I was playing a male character- I always somehow stuffed up the romances- no matter how hard I tried.
Also can the female character romance end in a baby- I've only ended up getting married (he he) Is there anything else that can happen in the female character romance? |
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jcompton
Acolyte
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Posted - 17 Nov 2004 : 18:50:47
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The only stock Bioware romance that involves an in-game pregnancy is Aerie.
The Kelsey NPC romance allows the PC to become pregnant (player's choice, if you say it, it becomes true) during Throne of Bhaal.
Kelsey's at http://www.pocketplane.net/kelsey . |
Kelsey, Keto, and the BG2 gang hang out on the Pocket Plane. http://www.pocketplane.net |
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Aleta_Delryn
Acolyte
Australia
38 Posts |
Posted - 18 Nov 2004 : 06:35:55
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Quote from jcompton:
The Kelsey NPC romance allows the PC to become pregnant (player's choice, if you say it, it becomes true) during Throne of Bhaal.
What's that?
I've never heard of the Kelsey thingy (though I got a friend called Kelsey), it sounds cool |
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jcompton
Acolyte
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Posted - 20 Nov 2004 : 21:17:46
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Kelsey is a new NPC, a human male sorcerer, created by me and another modder (Ghreyfain) to expand the range of joinable NPC options in the game, and to provide female PCs another romance option. Kelsey has an original portrait, full voice acting, romance conflict with Anomen, personal encounters, he was the first NPC to have flirting (since expanded to the rest of the Bioware NPCs and included in other romances NPCs)... etc. :) We worked hard.
The link is above, or you can get to the Pocket Plane site (where Kelsey and a bunch of other mods live) in my sig link. |
Kelsey, Keto, and the BG2 gang hang out on the Pocket Plane. http://www.pocketplane.net |
Edited by - jcompton on 20 Nov 2004 21:18:54 |
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Ashara
Acolyte
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Posted - 08 Dec 2004 : 17:53:59
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The romances are :-
Female character
Anomen
Male Character:-
Viconia
Aerie
Jaheria
Released modded romances, continuing JC's post are:
Female: Solaufein(b), Chloe(l), Imoen(b), Kelsey, Tsujatha, Edwin, Valygar, Sime(b)
Male: Solaufein (b), Tashia, Kitanya, Kiara, Imoen (b), Sime(b)
and, in BG1 there is a released Coran's romance :)
widens the choice a bit |
There is nothing better than imagining other worlds [...] to forget the painful one we live in. At least so I thought then. I hadn't yet realized that, imagining other worlds, you end up changing this one.
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Edited by - Ashara on 08 Dec 2004 18:03:20 |
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BG 2 Favorite NPCs
