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Valdar Oakensong
Learned Scribe
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 Posted - 21 Aug 2004 : 14:19:09
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This topic has been mentioned in other forums so I thought that I would open it up to the floor. The question is- Is all publicity good for the expansion of the hobby or should some things have never been released- D+D movie for example. Happy discussing
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hammer of Moradin
Senior Scribe
USA
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Posted - 21 Aug 2004 : 15:36:59
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Not publicity per se, but public figures have been announcing their geekdom lately. Matthew Lillard is the latest. Of course there's Vin Diesel. Wil Weaton's writing a column for Dungeon (or is it Dragon?)
With the Dungeons & Dragons movie you only have to say that it had potential. Jeremy Irons is a great actor! What the heck happened? And now the sequel may have Paris Hilton?!
I guess in many of these cases no publicity would have been better. |
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Valdar Oakensong
Learned Scribe
United Kingdom
159 Posts |
Posted - 21 Aug 2004 : 15:57:36
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WHAT...... Paris Hilton, you have got to be joking. Please tell me a different studio is doing the sequel.
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With the Dungeons & Dragons movie you only have to say that it had potential. Jeremy Irons is a great actor! What the heck happened? And now the sequel may have Paris Hilton?!
I guess in many of these cases no publicity would have been better.
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Canyia
Seeker
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Posted - 21 Aug 2004 : 16:00:42
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Paris Hilton is D&D 2!? If that's true I'll definately save my money . . .I'd rather slice my eyes out with razor blades, wax my floor with my tongue while balancing a pot of boiling hot water on my head while people whipped me and then dance on a million caltrops than watch another second of . . .whatever you can call that excuse for an actress. Besides, I thought D&D chars with an intellegence and wisdom of -5 would be comatose anyway . . .
Not all publicity is good publicity and a movie with Paris Hilton in it is a good example. |
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
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Posted - 21 Aug 2004 : 16:07:28
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Originally posted by Canyia
Paris Hilton is D&D 2!?
I haven't heard anything about that being anything but a rumor so far.
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If that's true I'll definately save my money . . .I'd rather slice my eyes out with razor blades, wax my floor with my tongue while balancing a pot of boiling hot water on my head while people whipped me and then dance on a million caltrops than watch another second of . . .whatever you can call that excuse for an actress.
Kinky there Canyia! I love people who can be descriptive. 
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Besides, I thought D&D chars with an intellegence and wisdom of -5 would be comatose anyway . . .
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Not all publicity is good publicity and a movie with Paris Hilton in it is a good example.
Why? Hasn't she been in a film before where she starred? <innocent whistling> |
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Faraer
Great Reader
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Posted - 21 Aug 2004 : 16:26:14
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In commercial terms, all the publicity D&D's ever had, negative or otherwise, has had the short-term effect of increasing sales. The propagating of inaccurate perceptions of the game, though, quote:
...public figures have been announcing their geekdom lately.
is a different story. There is absolutely no inherent connection between RPGs and 'geekdom', and the habit of some 'gamers' to retreat inside that label (or perpetuate it with assinine comic strips) is pathetic. |
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Beowulf
Learned Scribe
Canada
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Posted - 21 Aug 2004 : 16:35:39
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Originally posted by Faraer
In commercial terms, all the publicity D&D's ever had, negative or otherwise, has had the short-term effect of increasing sales. The propagating of inaccurate perceptions of the game, though, quote:
...public figures have been announcing their geekdom lately.
is a different story. There is absolutely no inherent connection between RPGs and 'geekdom', and the habit of some 'gamers' to retreat inside that label (or perpetuate it with assinine comic strips) is pathetic.
Well, back in my younger days I used to beat up all of the people who called me a geek for playing D&D. Now that I'm older, I busy myself apologizing to them.  |
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Bookwyrm
Great Reader
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Posted - 21 Aug 2004 : 23:31:05
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First, I'm a geek. I'm neither proud nor ashamed of it; it's just who I am. I can't change it without denying myself and pretending to be something I'm not.
Second, what do you qualify as an "asinine comic strip"?
Finally, on topic, I put forth a resounding NO! Not all publicity is good. Were I Italian, I could officially declare vendetta on Jack "Mister Misinformation" Chick. As it is, I'll simply try pointing out his errors where I can. He's responsible for a good portion of the bad reputation that Dungeons & Dragons, and all RPGs, have gotten over the years. |
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Valdar Oakensong
Learned Scribe
United Kingdom
159 Posts |
Posted - 22 Aug 2004 : 00:05:34
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Originally posted by Bookwyrm
Finally, on topic, I put forth a resounding NO! Not all publicity is good. Were I Italian, I could officially declare vendetta on Jack "Mister Misinformation" Chick. As it is, I'll simply try pointing out his errors where I can. He's responsible for a good portion of the bad reputation that Dungeons & Dragons, and all RPGs, have gotten over the years.
Is Jack Chick serious? I looked on a site after your post and I honestly thought that the site was a skit The guy is a raving lunatic. No wonder people think D+D fans are strange if that is what he writes about us |
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Karesch
Learned Scribe
Canada
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Posted - 22 Aug 2004 : 00:46:11
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Indeed he is quite serious in his ravings. He is the epitome of mis-information, his ability to weave truth with falsehood is uncanny. Were he to have been writing the pamphlets dropped during WWII, the war would have ended much sooner He takes a couple facts and weaves them fantastically with several falsehoods to create something that the un-informed or unsure would find believable, but anybody who is in the know would know as an outright batch of  and feel quite  about..
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Bookwyrm
Great Reader
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Posted - 22 Aug 2004 : 02:44:14
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In fact, generally what you should do with Jack "Thou must think as I" Chick is to believe the exact opposite of anything unusual he suggests. Virtually everything on his site is like that -- D&D, evolution, the Catholic Church . . . he even claims rock music is some kind of ancient druidic practice!  I can't ever read much of him in one sitting, because I get the urge to pummel something out of sheer frustration.  |
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hammer of Moradin
Senior Scribe
USA
758 Posts |
Posted - 22 Aug 2004 : 04:05:59
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Originally posted by Faraer
In commercial terms, all the publicity D&D's ever had, negative or otherwise, has had the short-term effect of increasing sales. The propagating of inaccurate perceptions of the game, though, quote:
...public figures have been announcing their geekdom lately.
is a different story. There is absolutely no inherent connection between RPGs and 'geekdom', and the habit of some 'gamers' to retreat inside that label (or perpetuate it with assinine comic strips) is pathetic.
Hey, the way I look at it, everyone has some geek in them. To non-gamers that I know, many would consider my gaming geeky. Every one of them has something they enjoy or do that others would consider geeky. For instance, my brother-in-law has many times referred to me as a D&D nerd. This coming from a guy who habitually watches Star Trek, Stargate SG-1, and many other movies and TV shows that others would call nerdy/geeky. Oh, and don't touch his fiber-optic Enterprise E.
Also, what I was thinking of when I wrote it was what I perceive the typical movie star as. Cool, handsome/beautiful, suave, etc. Someone like that saying they play D&D is definately a geek compared to their peers.
Finally, what assinine comic strip are you referring to? |
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Lina
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 22 Aug 2004 : 07:52:32
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Depends on how the publicity is done.
For example, for some of the major blockbusters that come out in cinemas today we see a lot of ads for it on tv and radio... and what we see/hear are parts of the best scences of the movie and a small description of the storyline. From there, we either make a decision on whether or not it is worth viewing.
But the downfall is that we have a high expectation that the movie is going to be excellent due to the good publicity. When it does not meet our standards then people (mostly reviewers) start showing their claws and the publicity swings the otherway. |
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