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Wood Elf Ranger
Senior Scribe
USA
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 Posted - 05 Aug 2004 : 23:25:04
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Could someone please tell me where I can find information detailing Ogrillon (half-ogre half-orc)? I'd like as much info as possible: background on the race in the Realms, Dieties if they have any, all the fluff but crunchy stats and even how to make them a playable race if possible.
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~Lee N.
"Breaktime yes?!.. Yes?.. Maybe?.. Noo, baaack to work.." -Grovel the Goblin from NWN: HotU |
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 06 Aug 2004 : 02:47:47
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Originally posted by Wood Elf Ranger
Could someone please tell me where I can find information detailing Ogrillon (half-ogre half-orc)? I'd like as much info as possible: background on the race in the Realms, Dieties if they have any, all the fluff but crunchy stats and even how to make them a playable race if possible.
Try this link. I don't know how official the stats are and there isn't any Realms information, but it does offer some insight and details into this type of creature. |
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Wood Elf Ranger
Senior Scribe
USA
627 Posts |
Posted - 06 Aug 2004 : 03:29:18
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Hmm that is very interesting. It also says Orogs are half-ogre half-orc but in Races of Faerun Orogs are just deep Orcs. I'd really like some official information even if its just in which sourcebook I can find them so I know which one to buy  |
~Lee N.
"Breaktime yes?!.. Yes?.. Maybe?.. Noo, baaack to work.." -Grovel the Goblin from NWN: HotU |
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Sarelle
Senior Scribe
United Kingdom
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Posted - 06 Aug 2004 : 14:07:02
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in 2e I think Ogrillon were the children of an Orc mother/ogre father, and Orogs the children of an ogre mother/orc father. Or the other way around 
But in 3e Orogs are deep orcs, possibly with a bit of ogre blood. Ogrillons would thus classify all orc/ogre crossbreeds, but there isn't any 3e stats that I know of. |
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Wood Elf Ranger
Senior Scribe
USA
627 Posts |
Posted - 06 Aug 2004 : 16:57:01
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| Hmph those 2e stats are pretty bare but perhaps I can use them as reference to make my own |
~Lee N.
"Breaktime yes?!.. Yes?.. Maybe?.. Noo, baaack to work.." -Grovel the Goblin from NWN: HotU |
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George Krashos
Master of Realmslore
Australia
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Posted - 07 Aug 2004 : 13:24:41
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The whole basis for ogrillons and orogs in the previous editions of D&D was that it simply got you a stronger orc - HD wise (albeit with a bit of a slant for ogrillons ...). With the advent of 3E and the ability of humanoids to gain class levels, you didn't need orogs anymore as depicted in 2E - you just made an orc with a couple of fighter levels. That's why orogs in 3E were changed to be a slightly different race altogether.
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Wood Elf Ranger
Senior Scribe
USA
627 Posts |
Posted - 07 Aug 2004 : 17:05:19
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| Ahh that does make sense! Thats most likely why the Ogrillon was left out of 3e since they weren't very different from orcs? |
~Lee N.
"Breaktime yes?!.. Yes?.. Maybe?.. Noo, baaack to work.." -Grovel the Goblin from NWN: HotU |
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Jerard Doonsay
Seeker
USA
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Posted - 07 Aug 2004 : 19:06:46
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| Could it be that Orog is the Underdark version, and Ogrillon is the surface version (different racial history)? |
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Lysander
Learned Scribe
USA
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Posted - 07 Aug 2004 : 19:24:10
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Originally posted by George Krashos
The whole basis for ogrillons and orogs in the previous editions of D&D was that it simply got you a stronger orc - HD wise (albeit with a bit of a slant for ogrillons ...). With the advent of 3E and the ability of humanoids to gain class levels, you didn't need orogs anymore as depicted in 2E - you just made an orc with a couple of fighter levels. That's why orogs in 3E were changed to be a slightly different race altogether.
-- George Krashos
I don't remember the ogrillions (The site given afore has a print-reference for Orog, but not Ogrillion), but for what it's worth, orogs are rather prominent in Cerilia (Birthright) as a goblinoid, rather than orc derivative. However, back in the Realms... 
Interesting: http://encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.com/Orog lists ogrillion as an orog variant. *shrug*
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Wood Elf Ranger
Senior Scribe
USA
627 Posts |
Posted - 07 Aug 2004 : 21:03:03
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Hmm that is interesting. Well the main mention of an Ogrillon in the Forgotten Realms is Ragnor from the Cleric Quintet. He seems both stronger and smarter than the average Orc.
I was also thinking somewhere along the lines of Rexxar from Warcraft III. He actually looks quite a bit like an Orc except has lighter skin color like an Ogre. |
~Lee N.
"Breaktime yes?!.. Yes?.. Maybe?.. Noo, baaack to work.." -Grovel the Goblin from NWN: HotU |
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jinat
Acolyte
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Posted - 10 Aug 2004 : 22:05:59
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OROGS
Orogs or Neo-Orogs as they called it were bred by the Thayan Wizards. They were half-orc half Ogres and sometimes other creatures. The spellbound product had a monster entry.
Also lands of intrigue mentions an Orog Paladin of Torm.
OGGRILLONS
The second house of menzobarrenzan has bred ogrillons for soldiers.
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Wood Elf Ranger
Senior Scribe
USA
627 Posts |
Posted - 14 Aug 2004 : 23:09:52
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Yay! I found the Half-Ogre in Bastards & Bloodlines!
By the way this is an excellent lorebook not only does it give tons of halfbreed races it also shows you how to make your own  *taps his finger together thinking of all the weird wonderful possibilities* |
~Lee N.
"Breaktime yes?!.. Yes?.. Maybe?.. Noo, baaack to work.." -Grovel the Goblin from NWN: HotU |
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3catcircus
Acolyte
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Posted - 16 Aug 2004 : 01:45:47
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Originally posted by Wood Elf Ranger
Could someone please tell me where I can find information detailing Ogrillon (half-ogre half-orc)? I'd like as much info as possible: background on the race in the Realms, Dieties if they have any, all the fluff but crunchy stats and even how to make them a playable race if possible.
In addition to 1st/2nd ed. sources, the 3rd ed. crunchy for the Ogrillon can be found in the Necromancer Games' publication Tome of Horrors. I dunno if their 3.5 errata includes any updates, though. |
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qstor
Acolyte
USA
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Posted - 17 Aug 2004 : 18:41:52
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1/2 orge is in Savage Species IIRC. But what George said holds true as well. Just make a 3rd level orc barbarian or fighter in 3.0
Edited out Tome of Horrors reference :)
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Edited by - qstor on 17 Aug 2004 18:42:50 |
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