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Beowulf
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 Posted - 14 Jul 2004 : 22:58:06
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Well met!
If a god entered a dead magic zone could it have any power? Would it be able to maintain it's prescence in the mortal realm?
And if a god can function within a dead magic zone, does that mean clerical magic is similarly potent ... originating as it does from the deities personal "weave"?
Or is a dead magic zone just plainly and simply dead?
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The Wanderer
Learned Scribe
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Posted - 14 Jul 2004 : 23:23:43
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I always believed that dead magic zones are places where the Weave had been twisted or altered in some way that magic derived from it would not work. Since priestly magic does not come from this source, I would assume that Clerical Magic would not be affected.
Whether a god would have any problems there, I posit that they would indeed have trouble if they used Magic from the Weave. Gods (only Mystra) have no control over the Weave. |
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brjr2001
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Posted - 15 Jul 2004 : 00:08:04
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| i don't think it could maintain its presance in the mortal realm |
on second thought lets not go to candlekeep it is a silly place |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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Posted - 15 Jul 2004 : 00:49:40
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Mystra would be unaffected by a dead magic zone.
Shar would simply resort to the Shadow Weave.
Azuth... Dunno. I'd have to read up on him a bit before I'd make that call. And since I'm at work, that shan't be happening right now.
All the others? If they were in a dead magic zone in avatar form, they'd not suddenly disconnect from the host and go winging back to whatever plane, they'd simply be unable to use magic.
I'd say they could still hear their faithful, and could still grant prayers, so long as magic wasn't involved. Ditto for the various manifestations listed in the three 2E godbooks.
Remember, a god controls their portfolio. Nothing can stop that. As has happened in the fiction, if Kelemvor decides no one is gonna die, then no one dies.
Also remember, dead magic zones are simply places where magic can't be used. To borrow an analogy I used in another scroll, it's like a place where your cell phone has no coverage. The phone is unaffected, it just can't place or receive calls. |
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Sarta
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Posted - 15 Jul 2004 : 14:07:54
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I'd also argue that avatars of Corellan, Isis, Laduguer, Set, and Lurue wouldn't be affected by a dead magic zone either. All but Lurue have magic in their portfolio. Lurue has a much more primal connection to magic in Ed's campaign and early descriptions. Sadly, that has been drastically watered-down in most write ups of the religion.
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DDH_101
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Posted - 15 Jul 2004 : 21:04:12
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| I remember reading in the Avatar Series and there was a paragraph where Mystra was thinking to herself how she could have diverted her powers to restore the dead magic zone but the Goddess of Magic did not as a reminder of teh events during the Times of Trouble. |
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Beowulf
Learned Scribe
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Posted - 23 Jul 2004 : 16:27:54
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
Mystra would be unaffected by a dead magic zone.
I would think that Mystra would be most effected within a dead magic zone, as that area simply does not support her portfolio.
Anyway, I did some digging and a friend pointed out that in the old FR Adventures book it states that gods lose their magical abilities and can neither magically transport or escape out of or into such an area, eg. gate, teleport, dimension door.
It also states that both Mystra and Torm have the ability to repair these areas. Any ideas on how this would work? Considereing it owuld probably be impossible for such an area to be repair fffrom the inside, maybe it would just be a matter of somehow stimulating growth along the edge of the damaged area and then allowing nature to take its course and reweave itself? |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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Posted - 23 Jul 2004 : 18:43:15
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Originally posted by Beowulf
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
Mystra would be unaffected by a dead magic zone.
I would think that Mystra would be most effected within a dead magic zone, as that area simply does not support her portfolio.
Anyway, I did some digging and a friend pointed out that in the old FR Adventures book it states that gods lose their magical abilities and can neither magically transport or escape out of or into such an area, eg. gate, teleport, dimension door.
It also states that both Mystra and Torm have the ability to repair these areas. Any ideas on how this would work? Considereing it owuld probably be impossible for such an area to be repair fffrom the inside, maybe it would just be a matter of somehow stimulating growth along the edge of the damaged area and then allowing nature to take its course and reweave itself?
The silver fire Mystra grants her Chosen can nix a dead magic area. I believe a wish can, as well.
And in 2E, Mystra's specialty priests could function normally in a dead magic zone. I believe that in the current version, the rules for her priests allow for some sort of check to get magic to work.
So, if magic she has granted to someone can function in a dead magic zone, then hers should be able to, as well. |
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