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Dargoth
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 Posted - 10 Jul 2004 : 09:07:19
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A character with with a Spell casting class ie Cleric/Druid/Sorcerer/Wizards takes a PrC that grants +1 to existing class with each PrC level (such as the Dradmaster) then after taking all 10 levels goes back to taking levels in the origional Class does he get access to higher level spells?
For example a Character takes 6 levels of Cleric/Druid/Sorcerer/Wizard he then takes 10 levels of a PrC that gives +1 to caster level when he reaches 16th level (6 class levels +10 PrC) he decides to take another level of Cleric/Druid/Sorcerer/Wizard. Does he as a 17th level caster get 9th level spells?
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Capn Charlie
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Posted - 10 Jul 2004 : 09:19:54
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Yes, of course.
I really don't see why not, after all. And even without a precedent, this is how I would work it.
It might open up abuse with certain classes, but that would have to be handled on a case by case basis deterimined by the classes involved. |
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Sarta
Senior Scribe
USA
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Posted - 10 Jul 2004 : 11:00:07
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Yes, as far as spell-casting (and spell-casting alone) is concerned, the character is a 17th level Cleric/Druid/Sorcerer/Wizard. He or she would only have the benefit of being 7th level as far as the other benefits of being a Cleric/Druid/Sorcerer/Wizard.
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hammer of Moradin
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USA
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Posted - 11 Jul 2004 : 03:50:29
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| They would have to. None of the PrC's that I have seen prohibit advancing in other classes while taking the PrC. So the 6th level spellcaster could take one level in the PrC, then go back to the spellcasting class for another level, then back, etc., etc. |
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Jerard Doonsay
Seeker
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Posted - 15 Jul 2004 : 22:19:06
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| '+1 Existing Caster Level' means that for all spell casting purposes you basicaly gain a level of Cleric/Druid/Sorcerer/Wizards. You get no other abilites of that core class, but the spell casting power. It's really cool. |
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Durak
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Posted - 16 Jul 2004 : 16:12:27
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Scenario
A character with with a Spell casting class ie Cleric/Druid/Sorcerer/Wizards takes a PrC that grants +1 to existing class with each PrC level (such as the Dradmaster) then after taking all 10 levels goes back to taking levels in the origional Class does he get access to higher level spells?
For example a Character takes 6 levels of Cleric/Druid/Sorcerer/Wizard he then takes 10 levels of a PrC that gives +1 to caster level when he reaches 16th level (6 class levels +10 PrC) he decides to take another level of Cleric/Druid/Sorcerer/Wizard. Does he as a 17th level caster get 9th level spells?
Sorry am not sure of the question.
I thought the lvl7 Cleric lvl10 Prc would have the spell Range of a lvl7 cleric but cast these spells as a lvl 17 Cleric.
So isnt really a lvl17 Cleric in the amount of spells or range of spells he has. |
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brjr2001
Learned Scribe
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Posted - 16 Jul 2004 : 18:04:21
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| i belive they do get thier spells |
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Sanavin
Acolyte
Finland
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Posted - 16 Jul 2004 : 18:17:21
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They do get their spells.
So, for example, this 6th level Cleric who takes 10 levels of PrC that gives "+1 level of existing divine spellcasting class", is considered 16th level Cleric in regards of casting spells. More specifically: " He does not, however, gain any other benefit a character of that class would have gained. This essentially means that he adds the level of [Insert PrC's name here] to the level of whatever other divine spellcasting class the character has, then determines spells per day and caster level accordingly."
Now, if this Clr 6/Whatever 10 would take one more level of Cleric, he is considered 17th level Cleric for purposes of spellcasting, and gain access to 9th level spells. |
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Bookwyrm
Great Reader
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Posted - 17 Jul 2004 : 07:33:55
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It's not as good a trade as one might think, though.
This hypothetical character, having taken six levels in a spellcasting class that offers 9th-level spells, then takes ten levels of a PrC (each level giving +1 spell capacity/spells per day), then takes another of the original class, would indeed cast 9th-levels.
However, caster level does not increase unless the text of the PrC says so. So that 9th-level you've been dying to use could very well be cast at a caster level of seven. |
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Sanavin
Acolyte
Finland
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Posted - 17 Jul 2004 : 18:26:41
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| That's true... so it's good to be sure that PrC's ability chart does have those "+1 level of existing divine spellcasting class" lines in it. Otherwise you might be up to a disappointment. |
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Bookwyrm
Great Reader
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Posted - 19 Jul 2004 : 09:46:33
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That doesn't mean it raises caster level. For instance, a multiclassed Wizard 12/Archmage 5 would cast 9th-level spells with a caster level of 12.
On the other hand, a Cleric 12/Hierophant 5 casts up to sixth-level spells, but with a caster level of 17. |
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Sanavin
Acolyte
Finland
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Posted - 19 Jul 2004 : 10:39:58
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| Actually, Hierophant of 3.5 (DMG pg. 189) doesn't have "+1 level of existing divine spellcasting class" lines in the progression chart. And neither does Hierophant from FRCS (pg. 48). In both cases there is just "Special Ability". ;) |
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Bookwyrm
Great Reader
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Posted - 19 Jul 2004 : 10:58:42
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| But the Hierophant (3e and 3.5e) does increase caster level. |
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Sanavin
Acolyte
Finland
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Posted - 19 Jul 2004 : 18:21:55
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| Yes, that is true. But it doesn't give more spells, and lacks that one line. So, in that regard, at least until an example that counters it, it's safe to say that if PrC's progression chart includes that aforementioned line, it gives spells. And if not, then it may or may not increase caster level without giving more spells. |
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Bookwyrm
Great Reader
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Posted - 19 Jul 2004 : 18:27:42
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| It gives spells -- I wasn't arguing that it didn't! But +1 level of existing class doesn't mean that caster level is increased. That's all I was saying. |
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Sanavin
Acolyte
Finland
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Posted - 19 Jul 2004 : 21:17:49
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Oopsie, my bad. Sorry.
Well, then it's best to just remember to read carefully what PrC's ability description text says about spells.  |
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An interesting question that come up today
