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AlacLuin
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Posted - 26 Jul 2004 :  02:54:12  Show Profile  Visit AlacLuin's Homepage Send AlacLuin a Private Message
Come on now.
If they get Paris Hilton into the movie, it might be OK.

Just think, Paris in a push up/lace up bodice, it can't be that bad.
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Karesch
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Posted - 26 Jul 2004 :  02:59:23  Show Profile  Visit Karesch's Homepage Send Karesch a Private Message
How much would anybody like to bet that it CAN be that bad

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Talwyn
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Posted - 26 Jul 2004 :  03:02:44  Show Profile  Visit Talwyn's Homepage Send Talwyn a Private Message
Are you openning a book of bets on the film then Karesch?

Put me down for 5Gp that it's a dog of a flick!
I just can't see it being any good.

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Jerard Doonsay
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Posted - 26 Jul 2004 :  05:59:00  Show Profile  Visit Jerard Doonsay's Homepage Send Jerard Doonsay a Private Message
You dissapoint me... kinda. I liked the D&D movie. How often do you get to see a B movie of that caliber? AND, I believe that the second will be a wonderful B just like the first. Why does no one apriciate the B movie any more? Where is the Rubber Chicken when you need it?

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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 26 Jul 2004 :  06:31:27  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Jerard Doonsay

You dissapoint me... kinda. I liked the D&D movie. How often do you get to see a B movie of that caliber? AND, I believe that the second will be a wonderful B just like the first. Why does no one apriciate the B movie any more? Where is the Rubber Chicken when you need it?



I have a friend who loves B movies... But even he avoided the first D&D movie, and will likely avoid the second travesty movie if it is made.

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Talwyn
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Posted - 26 Jul 2004 :  06:45:24  Show Profile  Visit Talwyn's Homepage Send Talwyn a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Jerard Doonsay

You dissapoint me... kinda. I liked the D&D movie. How often do you get to see a B movie of that caliber? AND, I believe that the second will be a wonderful B just like the first. Why does no one apriciate the B movie any more? Where is the Rubber Chicken when you need it?



I have nothing against B movies, I just firmly believe that the 1st D&D movie isn't even worthy of that lofty title.
I've watched paint dry and that was more coherent and entertaining than the debacle of a film that sadly bore the D&D title.
I appreciate a B flick any day but to say the D&D film is of that caliber is drawing one hell of a long bow in it's defence.



Over the centuries, mankind has tried many ways of combating the forces of evil...prayer, fasting, good works and so on.
Up until Doom, no one seemed to have thought about the double-barrel shotgun.
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Aldrick the Nightblade
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Posted - 26 Jul 2004 :  15:49:13  Show Profile  Visit Aldrick the Nightblade's Homepage Send Aldrick the Nightblade a Private Message
The mage used an entangle spell...and let me tell ya, it wasn't pretty... They need to make an FR movie, but which book to make?

"Turn your face to the shadows, and let the sun fall behind you"

Edited by - Aldrick the Nightblade on 26 Jul 2004 16:37:08
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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 26 Jul 2004 :  18:30:48  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Aldrick the Nightblade

The mage used an entangle spell...and let me tell ya, it wasn't pretty... They need to make an FR movie, but which book to make?



None of them. The best way to irritate the fewest fans is to make a movie with new characters and a new story -- just like the many, many novel authors have done. As I've said more than once, even Drizzt Do'Urden was once a brand-new character.

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Aldrick the Nightblade
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Posted - 26 Jul 2004 :  19:10:11  Show Profile  Visit Aldrick the Nightblade's Homepage Send Aldrick the Nightblade a Private Message
Are you sure? There are some pretty good books to make movies out of...

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SiriusBlack
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Posted - 26 Jul 2004 :  19:30:43  Show Profile  Visit SiriusBlack's Homepage Send SiriusBlack a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Aldrick the Nightblade

Are you sure? There are some pretty good books to make movies out of...




Good books doesn't necessarily equate to good movies.
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tauster
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Posted - 26 Jul 2004 :  19:34:33  Show Profile  Visit tauster's Homepage Send tauster a Private Message
what i´d like to see most is a glimpse from faeruns past. that way, "current" events are not in danger of being "misinterpreted" and no major fan-group will be miffed.

it should play in a high-magic surrounding, not because i love epic magic or highlevel- play (the contrary!) but because magic is something that defines faerun, and therefore should have great influence in a movie.

there were lots of "advanced arcane societies" in faeruns past:
- myth drannor (perhaps no good choice because of the huge fanbase and because it´s still "kind of around"),
- netheril (imagine karsus completing his spell and the follwing apocalypse. would make a great finale!)
- the elfish crown-wars, including scenes in evermeet
- tales from the days of thunder, featuring one of the creature races (paris hilton in a snake-dress, anyone? )
- the rise and fall of the imaskari empire (like netheril, great epic scenes) with a possible sequel: the orcgate wars that took place centuries later


that´s what comes up off the top of my head...

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SiriusBlack
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Posted - 26 Jul 2004 :  20:28:07  Show Profile  Visit SiriusBlack's Homepage Send SiriusBlack a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by tauster

what i´d like to see most is a glimpse from faeruns past. that way, "current" events are not in danger of being "misinterpreted" and no major fan-group will be miffed.



Check out The Forsaken House for a prologue with such a glimpse.
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Lashan
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Posted - 26 Jul 2004 :  21:10:15  Show Profile  Visit Lashan's Homepage Send Lashan a Private Message
Alright, it took a REALLY boring day at work for me to even want to read this thread, let alone get into the discussion. The thought of a DnD movie does make me cringe. Still, I think there will be a good DnD movie one day. As long as DnD is still being played, there will be people who try to make a good movie out of it. I think that there is the possibility of many bad ones, but one day someone will hit it right.

Next thought is that Paris Hilton in a push up is really creepy to me. That little girl is a stick! I don't know what people find attractive in her. They better put a bunch of fur clothing on her so she doesn't look so third world-ish skinny (though the fur would just kinda continue the third world look).

Personally, I wouldn't care what world that the DnD movie would be made in, but think it should actually be set in SOME world. I vote lastly for FR. I believe that they would make a crappy FR movie. The only way to avoid making a crappy FR movie would be to avoid every single "iconic" FR character, like Wooly suggests. Also, they shouldn't make it a high magic setting, or it will be really cheesy to most normal people out there. Personally, I don't like the FR as a high magic setting and don't believe that it was originally set out to be that way, but that is a whole other argument.

What game world would work? Heck, I would even say Eberron. Sure, I don't plan on buying anything of that game world, but that doesn't mean that they can't make a decent movie out of it. I'm sure that the overall story for Eberron is interesting. If it is DnD and doesn't suck, I don't care what game world. I would even recommend Greyhawk as the world. Who can really say bad things if they remade some classic DnD module like "Temple of Elemental Evil" or "Against the Giants"? Those are some great classic modules that even FR fans can't deride.

I believe that the only way a FR movie would work is if they abondened the major characters and got rid of all the over-powered magic and stuck with the real strength of the Forgotten Realms - the detail of the game world. What really makes FR cool is how realistic the game world is and how much detail into little mundane things there are. The freakin' cheeses of the game world are detailed! You know what Cormyr is like without having to really know who the monarch of Cormyr is. You have regional flavor of the game world that is independant of characters and powerful groups battling each other. Fearun is a workable game world with much thought-out detail. That's what a movie should focus on.

Edited by - Lashan on 26 Jul 2004 21:48:56
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Aldrick the Nightblade
Acolyte

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Posted - 26 Jul 2004 :  21:41:39  Show Profile  Visit Aldrick the Nightblade's Homepage Send Aldrick the Nightblade a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Lashan

Alright, it took a REALLY boring day at work for me to even want to read this thread, let alone get into the discussion. The thought of a DnD movie does make me cringe. Still, I think there will be a good DnD movie one day. As long as DnD is still being played, there will be people who try to make a good movie out of it. I think that there is the possibility of many bad ones, but one day someone will hit it right.

Next thought is that Paris Hilton in a push up is really creepy to me. That little girl is a stick! I don't know what people find attractive in her. They better put a bunch of fur clothing on her so she doesn't look so third world-ish skinny (though the fur would just kinda continue the third world look).

Personally, I wouldn't care what world that the DnD movie would be made in, but think it should actually be set in SOME world. I vote lastly for FR. I believe that they would make a crappy FR movie. The only way to avoid making a crappy FR movie would be to avoid every single "iconic" FR character, like Wooly suggests. Also, they shouldn't make it a high magic setting, or it will be really cheesy to most normal people out there. Personally, I don't like the FR as a high magic setting and don't believe that it was originally set out to be that way, but that is a whole other argument.

What game world would work? Heck, I would even say Eberron. Sure, I don't plan on buying anything of that game world, but that doesn't mean that they can't make a decent movie out of it. I'm sure that the overall story for Eberron is interesting. If it is DnD and doesn't suck, I don't care what game world. I would even recommend Greyhawk as the world. Who can really say bad things if they remade some classic DnD module like "Temple of Elemental Evil" or "Against the Giants"? Those are some great classic modules that even FR fans can't deride.

I believe that the only way a FR movie would work is if they abondened the major characters and got rid of all the over-powered magic and stuck with the real strength of the Forgotten Realms - the detail of the game world. What really makes FR cool is how realistic the game world is and how much detail into little mundane things there are. The freakin' cheesy of the game world are detailed! You know what Cormyr is like without having to really know who the monarch of Cormyr is. You have regional flavor of the game world that is independant of characters and powerful groups battling each other. Fearun is a workable game world with much thought-out detail. That's what a movie should focus on.


Faerun is a wonderful setting for a movie....and what about that other girl on the simple life..

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SiriusBlack
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Posted - 26 Jul 2004 :  22:29:44  Show Profile  Visit SiriusBlack's Homepage Send SiriusBlack a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Aldrick the Nightblade
Faerun is a wonderful setting for a movie....and what about that other girl on the simple life..



Sirius leans back and waits patiently for the punch lines to begin on that last line...
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Aldrick the Nightblade
Acolyte

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Posted - 26 Jul 2004 :  22:37:10  Show Profile  Visit Aldrick the Nightblade's Homepage Send Aldrick the Nightblade a Private Message
she is ....hey wait..i have no punch line..Sirus you are the one who lost my faith in humor...for that you die!

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Talwyn
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Posted - 27 Jul 2004 :  02:35:14  Show Profile  Visit Talwyn's Homepage Send Talwyn a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Aldrick the Nightblade

she is ....hey wait..i have no punch line..Sirus you are the one who lost my faith in humor...for that you die!



*Talwyn leans back and watches with increasing interest as young Aldrick threatens Sirius with death.
He muses to himself as to how long this little duel will last, no more than a couple of rounds at the most*

However, I think that Lashan had made some good & valid points about avoiding major realms NPC's being in the new film.
I believe that the film will be as per the last one, set in a world which no one is familiar with. That'll be a blessing as if it's a pile of crap as a movie, least ways the poo is somewhere else stinking up the place and not blemishing our beloved FR



Over the centuries, mankind has tried many ways of combating the forces of evil...prayer, fasting, good works and so on.
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Aldrick the Nightblade
Acolyte

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Posted - 27 Jul 2004 :  03:50:43  Show Profile  Visit Aldrick the Nightblade's Homepage Send Aldrick the Nightblade a Private Message
Are you threating me Talwyn?

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Talwyn
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Posted - 27 Jul 2004 :  04:29:56  Show Profile  Visit Talwyn's Homepage Send Talwyn a Private Message
My dear sir, how in the name of Hades could you misconstrode my previous post as a threat?
I was merely musing upon your choice of words to Sirius and the potential consequneces they may bring.
It's like being an observer in a bar where there's a hardened gun-fighter is calmly drinking and some young voice out of the crowd says
"Go for your gun Mr" - it's the next few moments that are going to be interesting....

I'm not in the habit of issuing threats, too much grandstanding


Over the centuries, mankind has tried many ways of combating the forces of evil...prayer, fasting, good works and so on.
Up until Doom, no one seemed to have thought about the double-barrel shotgun.
EAT LEADEN DEATH DEMON!
Terry Pratchett


Edited by - Talwyn on 27 Jul 2004 05:17:08
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Lina
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Posted - 27 Jul 2004 :  11:51:34  Show Profile  Visit Lina's Homepage Send Lina a Private Message
Better retract those claws boys. Wouldn't want to attract Alaundo's attention, with all the stuff he's got to do at the moment. He just might take all his stress out on someone... wouldn't want to be there when that happens.

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Alaundo
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Posted - 27 Jul 2004 :  14:24:57  Show Profile  Visit Alaundo's Homepage Send Alaundo a Private Message
Well met

Indeed!

I'm sure I have read of similar discussions such as this, mayhaps this should be shelved. Hmmmmmm

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Lashan
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Posted - 27 Jul 2004 :  21:36:10  Show Profile  Visit Lashan's Homepage Send Lashan a Private Message
Actually, if the movie was made in one of the well known worlds, I think it would do better. I think that the backgrounds to many of the current game worlds are pretty well developed. It would certainly sound better then that made up country that DnD the movie used. They could always use Eberron.
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SiriusBlack
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Posted - 05 Aug 2004 :  16:37:40  Show Profile  Visit SiriusBlack's Homepage Send SiriusBlack a Private Message
Gaming Report has a little bit of news regarding the next D&D movie.
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Talwyn
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Posted - 07 Aug 2004 :  12:14:46  Show Profile  Visit Talwyn's Homepage Send Talwyn a Private Message
I think that instead of a D&D movie, there should be:

DUNGEONS & DRAGONS: THE MUSICAL!


just think of it, great show tunes such as the rock power number "Dwarf on the Water", or the reflective "I just don't know what to do with that Elf?" and finaly the sweet "Why do Bards suddenly appear?"





Over the centuries, mankind has tried many ways of combating the forces of evil...prayer, fasting, good works and so on.
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Jerard Doonsay
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Posted - 07 Aug 2004 :  18:48:08  Show Profile  Visit Jerard Doonsay's Homepage Send Jerard Doonsay a Private Message
quote:
Talwyn

I think that instead of a D&D movie, there should be:

DUNGEONS & DRAGONS: THE MUSICAL!

just think of it, great show tunes such as the rock power number "Dwarf on the Water", or the reflective "I just don't know what to do with that Elf?" and finaly the sweet "Why do Bards suddenly appear?"




You have finally lost all your marbles and gone totaly bonkers.

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Talwyn
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Posted - 08 Aug 2004 :  02:03:34  Show Profile  Visit Talwyn's Homepage Send Talwyn a Private Message
Not in the slightest my dear fellow, just trying to inject some levity into this thread.
But I think the idea has merit, I mean look at some of the other musicals tht are out there and how ridiculous their premises are: Cats? Nixon goes to China?
There is already a heroic fantasy musical: The Eddars, ancient Norse sagas set to song, great stuff if you ever get the chance to listern to them.

Over the centuries, mankind has tried many ways of combating the forces of evil...prayer, fasting, good works and so on.
Up until Doom, no one seemed to have thought about the double-barrel shotgun.
EAT LEADEN DEATH DEMON!
Terry Pratchett

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SiriusBlack
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Posted - 08 Aug 2004 :  02:10:15  Show Profile  Visit SiriusBlack's Homepage Send SiriusBlack a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Talwyn

Not in the slightest my dear fellow, just trying to inject some levity into this thread.



No need to worry about attempting such a task. Any film that potentially has Paris Hilton in it is screaming out for commentary from the peanut gallery.
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Talwyn
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Posted - 08 Aug 2004 :  02:55:42  Show Profile  Visit Talwyn's Homepage Send Talwyn a Private Message
I'd forgotten about Ms. Hilton making her appearance in the film

By all that is holy & sacred, is there no end to this insanity?

Over the centuries, mankind has tried many ways of combating the forces of evil...prayer, fasting, good works and so on.
Up until Doom, no one seemed to have thought about the double-barrel shotgun.
EAT LEADEN DEATH DEMON!
Terry Pratchett


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Lina
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I know that P. Hilton wanted to make some $$$ but I didn't know she was that desperate!!! What part did she get in the movie? Probably a very short part too.

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SiriusBlack
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Posted - 08 Aug 2004 :  04:50:59  Show Profile  Visit SiriusBlack's Homepage Send SiriusBlack a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Talwyn
By all that is holy & sacred, is there no end to this insanity?



Nope, latest rumor I hear is Justin Timberlake might be coming on board as well.

Just kidding....

As for the Paris part, nothing confirmed yet. I'll leave it to other scribes' imaginations as to what type of role she would be suited for.
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