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Sarelle
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 Posted - 12 Jun 2004 : 12:32:53
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Cormyr spoilers below
I'm doing a write up on an NPC Purple Dragon Knight and I need some information regarding what about Cormyr's recent disasters would most demoralise him.
Were PDKs involved in the battle against the Tuigan much? How much did it decimate their ranks?
Ditto with the Ghazneth Crisis? And which would have been worse (not including the impact of Azoun and Tanalasta's deaths)?
Any other disasters between those two points that would have demoralised a Cormyrian PDK?
Thanks.
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Dargoth
Great Reader
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Posted - 12 Jun 2004 : 13:19:58
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Originally posted by Sarelle
Cormyr spoilers below
I'm doing a write up on an NPC Purple Dragon Knight and I need some information regarding what about Cormyr's recent disasters would most demoralise him.
Were PDKs involved in the battle against the Tuigan much? How much did it decimate their ranks?
Ditto with the Ghazneth Crisis? And which would have been worse (not including the impact of Azoun and Tanalasta's deaths)?
Any other disasters between those two points that would have demoralised a Cormyrian PDK?
Thanks.
I suggest you read the Empires trilogy also James Lowder Prince of Lies features a character who fought in the Tuigan wars, you could ask james Lowder about the character.
The Ghazneth and the events around the return of Shade where far more destructive then the Tuigan war which unlike the other 2 events wasnt fought and Cormyr soil |
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DDH_101
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 12 Jun 2004 : 16:06:27
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Dargoth is right. The battle with the Shades totally destroys Tilverton, which can affect your knight's moral and the moral of the whole Cormyrian army.
Also, I'm not sure about this but in Elminster's Daughter there were mentions of a plot by the nobles to overthrow the Obarskyr family. I haven't read teh whole book myself, just a sample chapter but this "rebellion" might demoralize a Purple Dragon. |
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SiriusBlack
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Posted - 12 Jun 2004 : 16:13:03
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Originally posted by DDH_101
Also, I'm not sure about this but in Elminster's Daughter there were mentions of a plot by the nobles to overthrow the Obarskyr family. I haven't read teh whole book myself, just a sample chapter but this "rebellion" might demoralize a Purple Dragon.
I don't think it's giving away to much to state that having read this book, this plot does not get to the level that it demoralized a Purple Dragon. |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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Posted - 12 Jun 2004 : 17:46:38
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You needn't even read the entire Empires trilogy. Cormyr is only briefly mentioned in the first book -- a couple of minor references, and that's it.
The third book, Crusade, is the one where Azoun, knowing the Horde is coming, manages to create a multi-national coalition and goes to meet the Horde head-on.
I'm not as sure that the loss of Tilverton would have a huge effect on morale. Tilverton hadn't been in Cormyrian hands for terribly long (a generation, maybe), and it's not really a major part of the country. It's just this city that is out there, beyond the rest of the nation. Unless you were from Tilverton or knew someone from there, you prolly wouldn't think much of it one way or the other.
Further, it was a casualty of a war against magic that no one had any experience with, but that was eventually stopped.
Look at it this way: If the United States suddenly lost Guam, how would most people react? Many would be angered, simply by the loss of territory, but would morale take a hit? Not really.
Notation: no offense to any from Guam! I was simply using it as an analogy. |
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SiriusBlack
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Posted - 12 Jun 2004 : 18:02:02
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
Notation: no offense to any from Guam! I was simply using it as an analogy.
You pulled that one out of the fire quickly. I already had in my head the e-mail I was going to write to the Guam amabassador telling her/him about this post. |
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Sarelle
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Posted - 13 Jun 2004 : 11:54:14
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I know that the Shades war would be very demoralizing, but my character has left Cormyr by then (actually, his family lived in Tilverton, so he is hurt even more by that, when he hears of it).
I'll rephrase my question, then: How were the PDKs affected by the Tuigan war (were many sent up to meet them? did many die?) Any impressions you get from the Empires books will help, as I can't buy them.
And, ditto (sort of) with the Ghazneth Crisis? |
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Dargoth
Great Reader
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Posted - 13 Jun 2004 : 13:07:15
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Originally posted by Sarelle
I know that the Shades war would be very demoralizing, but my character has left Cormyr by then (actually, his family lived in Tilverton, so he is hurt even more by that, when he hears of it).
I'll rephrase my question, then: How were the PDKs affected by the Tuigan war (were many sent up to meet them? did many die?) Any impressions you get from the Empires books will help, as I can't buy them.
And, ditto (sort of) with the Ghazneth Crisis?
Again I suggest you read Prince of lies as it features a character who left the Cormyrian Army after the Tuigans wars |
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Sarelle
Senior Scribe
United Kingdom
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Posted - 14 Jun 2004 : 18:19:50
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| Drgoth - I'm afraid reading D&D books in the UK is very difficult. In my experience, they are not in libraries anywhere, and so I can only buy them from amazon. I'm skint at the moment, though I might well buy the avatar books in an upcoming order, I was just wondering if anyone could give their opinions on the matter. |
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Sarta
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Posted - 14 Jun 2004 : 19:44:46
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Quite a few would have gone. At the same time, many would have stayed behind to serve and protect Cormyr, rather than leave it undefended. For the most part, Cormyr was involved in only the tail end of the conflict with the Tuigan horde. The large battles that they fought in were large successes with magic being the overwhelming factor. They triumphed against much larger odds and returned home heroes after a fairly short campaign.
In terms of how this would have impacted your npc, it all depends. If he didn't go, he probably would have been upset that he was unable to participate and resentful that others who had gone were promoted over him simply on the merits that they earned while there. If he did go, he could have returned fairly shell-shocked having seen horrific displays of thousands of warriors wiped out by magical means or having lost good friends and companions to the ravages of war. However, he may have just as easily not experienced these things, fought bravely, and returned home a hero, proud of his exploits in that battle.
What may affect him more than participation in the various wars that Cormyr has faced would be where he was stationed for the majority of his service. Those who have been stationed in the stonelands for long periods of time have faced the rigors of being at war on a daily basis without the benefits of this service being recognized as a war. Their efforts allow the rest of Cormyr to live without fear of being over-run. Many in Cormyr probably forget that these brave men are the only thing keeping them safe and tend to down-play their roles.
I'd imagine that a purple dragon stationed in the stonelands for his career, who had not participated in any of the official wars of Cormyr would be a far different person than one who had a cushy position, but had been to war. They would probably be much harder, far less prone to boastfulness, and always on their toes.
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Dargoth
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Posted - 15 Jun 2004 : 02:43:22
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Originally posted by Sarelle
Drgoth - I'm afraid reading D&D books in the UK is very difficult. In my experience, they are not in libraries anywhere, and so I can only buy them from amazon. I'm skint at the moment, though I might well buy the avatar books in an upcoming order, I was just wondering if anyone could give their opinions on the matter.
Hmmm ok
The Character in POL basicly had the realms equivelant of Post Traumatic stress and left the Cormyrian army after the Tuigan hoard campaign |
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cpthero2
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Posted - 30 Sep 2018 : 18:15:20
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Master Rupert,
I couldn't agree more. As a former Infantryman myself, I can say that something along the lines of what was going on in Crusades, would be horrific. Great call on that one.
Best regards,
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
You needn't even read the entire Empires trilogy. Cormyr is only briefly mentioned in the first book -- a couple of minor references, and that's it.
The third book, Crusade, is the one where Azoun, knowing the Horde is coming, manages to create a multi-national coalition and goes to meet the Horde head-on.
I'm not as sure that the loss of Tilverton would have a huge effect on morale. Tilverton hadn't been in Cormyrian hands for terribly long (a generation, maybe), and it's not really a major part of the country. It's just this city that is out there, beyond the rest of the nation. Unless you were from Tilverton or knew someone from there, you prolly wouldn't think much of it one way or the other.
Further, it was a casualty of a war against magic that no one had any experience with, but that was eventually stopped.
Look at it this way: If the United States suddenly lost Guam, how would most people react? Many would be angered, simply by the loss of territory, but would morale take a hit? Not really.
Notation: no offense to any from Guam! I was simply using it as an analogy.
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