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Azar
Master of Realmslore
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 Posted - 30 Oct 2023 : 06:38:51
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Hello there!
In The Forgotten Realms, are there any incorporeal/invisible beings that arouse anger/battle-frenzy in others? These incendiaries need not be actual spirits (i.e., the undead), but they should at least fit the part. Whether they actively possess a victim or can evoke the feeling by their very presence also does not matter.
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Stand with anybody that stands right. Stand with him while he is right and part with him when he goes wrong.
Earth names in the Realms are more common than you may think. |
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Zeromaru X
Great Reader
Colombia
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Delnyn
Senior Scribe
USA
958 Posts |
Posted - 31 Oct 2023 : 07:05:49
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| Not restricted to FR as a disclaimer. You may want to consider guecubu as found in Fiendish Codex 1. |
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Ayrik
Great Reader
Canada
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Posted - 31 Oct 2023 : 18:08:21
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Revenants are all about vengeance. Wights, specters, and some other undeads simply have an avid undying hatred for all living things.
I suppose any sorts of fiends or fiendlings would serve this purpose just fine.
There are some spells which conjure or create creatures like invisible stalkers, howling horrors, etc. Hateful, vengeful, angry entities which seemingly exist for no purpose other than to hunt and kill their specific targets.
Priests of Tempus, Malar, and Talos are well known for their inhumanly berserk, flailing, lashing, killing, destructive rages. And for their volatile temperaments. |
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Marc
Senior Scribe
658 Posts |
Posted - 01 Nov 2023 : 13:43:39
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wang liang are rageful spirits from Kara-Tur that can turn invisible
there also incarnates of anger and ragewind undead from Planescape
ragewalker fey from MM3
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Azar
Master of Realmslore
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Ayrik
Great Reader
Canada
7989 Posts |
Posted - 01 Dec 2023 : 18:49:59
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Originally posted by Azar
I am seeking entities that can make other beings rage  .
Priests of Tempus
Arrogant Elves
Volothamp Geddarm
Imported Kender |
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TomCosta
Forgotten Realms Designer
USA
971 Posts |
Posted - 01 Dec 2023 : 21:13:11
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TomCosta
Forgotten Realms Designer
USA
971 Posts |
Posted - 01 Dec 2023 : 21:16:12
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sleyvas
Skilled Spell Strategist
USA
11829 Posts |
Posted - 01 Dec 2023 : 21:22:49
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Originally posted by Ayrik
quote:
Originally posted by Azar
I am seeking entities that can make other beings rage .
Priests of Tempus
Arrogant Elves
Volothamp Geddarm
Imported Kender
Sages who "absolutely know that they are correct" |
Alavairthae, may your skill prevail
Phillip aka Sleyvas |
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DoveArrow
Learned Scribe
105 Posts |
Posted - 01 Dec 2023 : 21:25:27
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| The closest I can think of to what you're looking for are the Sorrowsworn. In earlier editions, they were creatures that only feed on despair. In Mordenkainen Presents: Monsters of the Multiverse, they introduced various sorrowsworn who each represent different emotions, including anger. Maybe take a look. |
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Azar
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 17 Dec 2023 : 14:31:11
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Originally posted by Ayrik
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Originally posted by Azar
I am seeking entities that can make other beings rage .
Priests of Tempus
I know that - at least in 2e - Specialty Priests of Tempus can make others rage, but that is limited to friendlies and I don't think a Tempuran would act in a sneaky manner.
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Originally posted by Ayrik
Arrogant Elves
Superfluous adjective.
(I jest  . They have earned my favor.)
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Earlier, I mentioned "incorporeal/invisible beings" because I have a specific encounter in mind. See, the party is going to investigate just why a mount of a distinguished knight - an armored unicorn - randomly went berserk. Ideally, they will eventually discover that a (as of yet undetermined) hidden foe lingering nearby is the cause of this noble beast's inexplicable fury; considering the fact that these paragons of nature are resistant to quite a few forms of magic, this instigator must be unusually formidable. |
Stand with anybody that stands right. Stand with him while he is right and part with him when he goes wrong.
Earth names in the Realms are more common than you may think. |
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Delnyn
Senior Scribe
USA
958 Posts |
Posted - 18 Dec 2023 : 01:55:08
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| Would you consider a fiendish infestation that corrupts its region physically, mentally and emotionally? Perhaps a stray demoncyst associated with Eltab that reflects the demon lord's fury at being bound to Toril. |
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Azar
Master of Realmslore
1309 Posts |
Posted - 18 Dec 2023 : 13:39:13
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Originally posted by Delnyn
a stray demoncyst associated with Eltab that reflects the demon lord's fury at being bound to Toril.
Oh, Delnyn, it's all Sembian to me. |
Stand with anybody that stands right. Stand with him while he is right and part with him when he goes wrong.
Earth names in the Realms are more common than you may think. |
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Delnyn
Senior Scribe
USA
958 Posts |
Posted - 18 Dec 2023 : 23:34:54
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Originally posted by Azar
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Originally posted by Delnyn
a stray demoncyst associated with Eltab that reflects the demon lord's fury at being bound to Toril.
Oh, Delnyn, it's all Sembian to me.
What do you mean "all Sembian"? |
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Azar
Master of Realmslore
1309 Posts |
Posted - 19 Dec 2023 : 19:58:14
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Here: have an idiom.
For whatever reason, I always believed that the nation was colored by vaguely Hellenic themes (likely a gross oversimplification that sweeps aside its manifold complexities); nevertheless, the impression has stuck. |
Stand with anybody that stands right. Stand with him while he is right and part with him when he goes wrong.
Earth names in the Realms are more common than you may think. |
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Delnyn
Senior Scribe
USA
958 Posts |
Posted - 20 Dec 2023 : 02:12:07
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Thanks for the response. I would have thought Chessenta being closer to Hellenic-inspired themes. Sembia does not register to me as such. The demoncyst would incorporate Eltab's personality even if the demon is absent. Demoncysts can infect their surroundings and its psychic imprint can pass for the non-physical cause for rage.
All explained in fluent Narfelli. |
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Azar
Master of Realmslore
1309 Posts |
Posted - 20 Dec 2023 : 12:37:29
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| Apparently, these "demoncysts" debuted in the Champions of Ruin book, but this "Eltab" chap first appeared in the Spellbound (!) box set. That is neat. |
Stand with anybody that stands right. Stand with him while he is right and part with him when he goes wrong.
Earth names in the Realms are more common than you may think. |
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sleyvas
Skilled Spell Strategist
USA
11829 Posts |
Posted - 20 Dec 2023 : 13:55:02
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Originally posted by Azar
Apparently, these "demoncysts" debuted in the Champions of Ruin book, but this "Eltab" chap first appeared in the Spellbound (!) box set. That is neat.
Eltab first appeared in the 1e Dreams of the Red Wizards when it talks about the first Zulkir of Conjuration summoning him, about him being bound by the giant rune made up by the canals and streets of the city of Eltabbar (thus the name of the city). He is actually one of the first few demon lords that I can think of specifically mentioned in relation to the realms (granted Lolth definitely beat him for mention, and probably some of the others like Orcus, Graz'zt, Demogorgon, etc... came around the same time). |
Alavairthae, may your skill prevail
Phillip aka Sleyvas |
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Azar
Master of Realmslore
1309 Posts |
Posted - 22 Dec 2023 : 17:12:03
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| Clearly, sleyvas is an agent of Talos...or is it Istishia? He doesn't strike me as an Aerdrie Faenya kind of dude. |
Stand with anybody that stands right. Stand with him while he is right and part with him when he goes wrong.
Earth names in the Realms are more common than you may think. |
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sleyvas
Skilled Spell Strategist
USA
11829 Posts |
Posted - 29 Dec 2023 : 23:33:44
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Originally posted by Azar
Clearly, sleyvas is an agent of Talos...or is it Istishia? He doesn't strike me as an Aerdrie Faenya kind of dude.
At one point, Sleyvas may have offered token support to Talos in the form of Malyk when he was attempting to seize destructive magic. In his early years he turned to Shar, for he lost his wife and secretly blamed himself for not being home to protect her because he was being infidelious before he ever learned magic. He specifically wanted children born of their union, but since she was dead, he turned to magical methods similar to that which created Alias... though all of these children were a bit insane and more akin to a somewhat free-willed simulacrum. He was not happy with his "children" as a result. But, eventually he used someone else to manipulate time and actually rescue his "dead" wife in such a way that his past self didn't realize she had never actually died.... so that he didn't alter time. But, after he rescued her, he came to realize... he'd made so many enemies amongst his fellow Thayans that would use her to get at him, that her life would be fraught with peril, fear, and sorrow. So, out of love for her, he turned to the witches of Rashemen, offered to turn spy and was eventually forced to flee Thay after faking his death.
It was in Chessenta that he found the religion that he finally found matched his own heart... in the form of the Red Knight... for he worships her as a goddess of spell strategy. He also, in a rather roundabout way over the next ten years, inserted himself into the life of his previously unknown "daughter by love" (via a son born of a woman with whom he'd had a fling while on Gothic Earth... a son who had been hidden from him out of spite... the same son whom he had manipulated into travelling back in time to rescue his wife and promptly tried to kill upon his return because Sleyvas didn't truly understand that time was not a hungry beast that expected a life for a life).
This "daughter by love", had not stayed with Sleyvas' son, but his son had given the woman, Jillian Doncastle of Neverwinter, two children. After Sleyvas discovered he was a grandfather, he vowed to secretly watch over the young Jillian, a mage-priestess of Deneir who fancied herself a "detective". So, it came as no surprise when the diviner eventually confronted him about who he was and why he was invisibly watching her children at play, but even more surprising to him was when she decided to introduce him to his grandchildren. The next dozen years spent visiting Jillian and his grandchildren changed the heart of the aging spellhurler, but he also found that he found a rather unusual friend.... in the form of Jillian's sai... a stodgy, floating weapon calling itself Lorey Hisstory that considered itself a knowledgeable person on numerable topics.... and liked to boast about it.
So, when the floating sai came to tell him that Jillian had disappeared while trying to discover why a certain Moneylender of Waterdeep had up and disappeared... Sleyvas immediately began following the clues which she had left behind, and they would have managed to get away if not for the spellplague... which managed to merge Sleyvas' body with his spellbook, a deck of wheel of spells, and the magical weapon that he carried...
And THAT is how the formerly coldblooded spellslinging bounty killer who hunted Thayan mages for profit turned into a talking book with a talking sai and a weaveghost of Deneir for companions. |
Alavairthae, may your skill prevail
Phillip aka Sleyvas |
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Athreeren
Learned Scribe
144 Posts |
Posted - 02 Jan 2024 : 04:47:06
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| So, not a shaman lizardfolk from Chelimber spying for the Zhentarim? |
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sleyvas
Skilled Spell Strategist
USA
11829 Posts |
Posted - 02 Jan 2024 : 18:49:50
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Originally posted by Athreeren
So, not a shaman lizardfolk from Chelimber spying for the Zhentarim?
Lol, no, and I've often wondered if my chatting so much on realms topics ended up getting my character name in that video game, but betting its just happenstance. |
Alavairthae, may your skill prevail
Phillip aka Sleyvas |
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"Rage spirits" in The Realms?
