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jordanz
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Wooly Rupert
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 Posted - 03 May 2022 : 11:08:41
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I thought this was going to be the earlier scene, with the three guys defending Pig Sty Alley.
Love this movie and the earlier Shaolin Soccer! |
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TheIriaeban
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 03 May 2022 : 15:28:49
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| Way back in 2e, since monks were not included, I created a monk based on psionics. Pretty much everything but the Buddhist Palm would be possible. I am not familiar with the 5e monks but I would imagine that at least some of that would be reasonable. |
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Gelcur
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Posted - 03 May 2022 : 20:59:25
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If I were to try to make this in 3.5E D&D I would pickup the Knockback feat from Races of Stone p142 (minor caveat requires player to be of Large size or bigger), then pair it with Dungeon Crasher from Dungeonscape p10 (fighter alternative class feature), add in Wall Walker from p11 for a little more Kung-Fu flavor. Easily done well before Epic.
If you don't like the idea of taking fighter levels you likely get DM to hand wave that. The monk has a 2nd level and 6th level bonus feat to lose also. If you don't feel like playing a Goliath, the Stoneblessed PrC I would allow to qualify as one, or Stonebone Template from page Dragon350p36. An enlarge spell or other similar options exist or again maybe just have DM ignore that requirement or ask for an alternative class monk that loses first level feat and gains, Powerful Build.
Anyway you end up at L6-8, using Power Attack at least at a +1, then every blow you land say with Flurry of Blows (2) allows you to use Knockback, which gives you a free Bullrush which you don't have to move with the enemy. This can be bumped to 2-5 attacks with Flailing Strike instead of Flurry of Blows if you make a Chaos Monk Dragon335p89. If your Strength Check is sufficiently high to force them to collide with a wall or other solid object, they take an ADDITIONAL 8d6+(3xSTR MOD) damage beyond the strike that sent them flying.
What happens to the wall, or other living creature that you Bull Rush the enemy into... up to the DM. I'd say if you are pushing with enough force to cause the enemy to take damage that wall should also take something. I would likely 1/2 the damage to the object being struck. So on average you'd be doing something like 32 damage, 16 damage to the object. That's enough to break through a 1" wooden wall but not a 2" one, and not a 1" stone wall. At the max side 63 damage striking a wall, half that 31, that breaks a 1" stone wall or a 2" wooden wall. Obviously at higher levels with bonuses you can start making holes in everything, similar to the Kung-Fu movies.
I have a Griffon Cohort/Mount build, for a Rogue Player/Rider, who uses this trick. Land in the middle of tons of enemies use Whirling Frenzy to max out attacks, Knockback as many as possible, Rogue uses Arrow Mind spell to make AoOs using bow versus all of them. Rogue has Shadowdancer levels for Hide in Plain Sight so he makes all those attacks into Sneak Attacks. Rinse, repeat. |
The party come to a town befallen by hysteria
Rogue: So what's in the general store?
DM: What are you looking for?
Rogue: Whatevers in the store.
DM: Like what?
Rogue: Everything.
DM: There is a lot of stuff.
Rogue: Is there a cart outside?
DM: (rolls) Yes.
Rogue: We'll take it all, we may need it for the greater good. |
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Azar
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TheIriaeban
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jordanz
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Posted - 04 May 2022 : 07:13:04
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Originally posted by TheIriaeban
In this Kung Fu Hustle video, starting at about 6:55, Master Paris takes on the Harp Masters. I would imagine that Master Paris' fight would be a great example of an Eldathyn monk's fighting style.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8MbVjzgonA&t=443s&ab_channel=NKStudio
Agreed and the Harp Masters could be nothing other than high level Bards. |
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LordofBones
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 08 May 2022 : 01:53:29
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That's an epic monk? It's a mid-level monk against a bunch of thugs.
Epic level monk shenanigans are something like Ranma or Fist of the North Star. |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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Posted - 08 May 2022 : 03:28:21
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Originally posted by LordofBones
That's an epic monk? It's a mid-level monk against a bunch of thugs.
Epic level monk shenanigans are something like Ranma or Fist of the North Star.
He didn't say it was an epic-level monk, he asked about using some of those moves for one. |
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jordanz
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Posted - 10 May 2022 : 06:45:06
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
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Originally posted by LordofBones
That's an epic monk? It's a mid-level monk against a bunch of thugs.
Epic level monk shenanigans are something like Ranma or Fist of the North Star.
He didn't say it was an epic-level monk, he asked about using some of those moves for one.
Indeed and I'll add that the hand move at the end seemed pretty epic to me... |
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Barastir
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 22 May 2022 : 15:50:45
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Originally posted by TheIriaeban
Way back in 2e, since monks were not included, I created a monk based on psionics. Pretty much everything but the Buddhist Palm would be possible. I am not familiar with the 5e monks but I would imagine that at least some of that would be reasonable.
In my OA 2e adaptation I went the same way. Monks are martial artists, have psionic powers and have some minor thief skills.
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Lead by example.
Let your deeds speak your intentions.
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TheIriaeban
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Posted - 22 May 2022 : 16:18:17
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Originally posted by Barastir
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Originally posted by TheIriaeban
Way back in 2e, since monks were not included, I created a monk based on psionics. Pretty much everything but the Buddhist Palm would be possible. I am not familiar with the 5e monks but I would imagine that at least some of that would be reasonable.
In my OA 2e adaptation I went the same way. Monks are martial artists, have psionic powers and have some minot thief skills.
I didn't have the OA adventures book so I based my 2e monks on the one presented in Dragon #53. In the article, it made the regular monk abilities psionic based. I went a bit further and gave them the actual, equivalent 2e psionic power (since they were a psionicist subclass) and I let them use them as often as they liked as long as they could pay the PSPs. They also only got 1/2 the number of PSPs that a psionicist of the same level. However, their attacks also depended on the monk having PSPs so if they ran out, they were back to normal hand to hand subdual damage. |
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Lord Karsus
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Posted - 22 May 2022 : 17:57:45
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| -Me and a few other people made a 3e Ki System for monks. Worked very much like 3e Psionics with a pool of points to draw from, different abilities that could be learned/unlocked/whatever and augmented by utilizing more points from the pool. |
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Barastir
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 26 May 2022 : 18:31:23
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Originally posted by TheIriaeban
I didn't have the OA adventures book so I based my 2e monks on the one presented in Dragon #53.
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The 1e OA book has a monk somewhat similar to the 1e PHB, plus some changes, specially in martial arts. I've recently known the Dragon #53 version. The martial arts system in 1e OA was revised in the Complete Ninja's Handbook.
My version of the monk is a priest in all aspects, except that it has no clerical powers, but a limited psionic ability that begins at the 2nd level, and some thief skills. I kinda got inspiration in the bard. Besides, I improved their unarmed combat (only) and gave them martial maneuvers as per the Complete Ninja's.
Unlike the Dragon #53 monk, they are allowed to choose the psionic powers they want, as per normal psionics rules (I use the Skills & Powers version). Some of the more supernatural martial maneuvers and 1e monk abilities I converted into new psionic powers. |
"Goodness is not a natural state, but must be
fought for to be attained and maintained.
Lead by example.
Let your deeds speak your intentions.
Goodness radiated from the heart."
The Paladin's Virtues, excerpt from the "Quentin's Monograph"
(by Ed Greenwood) |
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Barastir
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