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Gyor
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 Posted - 16 Jun 2021 : 00:51:49
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Originally posted by keftiu
Worth noting that 5e Eberron only really showed us one city on one continent. A pulp adventure-y Xen’drik book, an intrigue campaign in Thaliost or Thronehold, maybe even a psionic revolutionaries story in Sarlona… there’s plenty more meat on those bones.
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In addition to these two titles, we have two brand new #DND settings in early development, as well as a return to a setting we've already covered. (No, these are not M:tG worlds.) (3/4)"
It's confirmed by Ray to not be an MtG setting,that leaves the other 4 settings.
Exandria, the setting evolved during a season of CR so we won't get another one until late in Season 3 which is at least months away.
Ravenloft just got released, so way too soon.
Eberron really only needed the mechanics as it doesn't evolve over time, which it got.
That leaves FR.
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HighOne
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Posted - 16 Jun 2021 : 01:44:23
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Originally posted by Gyor
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Originally posted by keftiu
Worth noting that 5e Eberron only really showed us one city on one continent. A pulp adventure-y Xen’drik book, an intrigue campaign in Thaliost or Thronehold, maybe even a psionic revolutionaries story in Sarlona… there’s plenty more meat on those bones.
Eberron really only needed the mechanics as it doesn't evolve over time, which it got.
That leaves FR.
As keftiu pointed out, the Eberron book was anything but comprehensive. Wizards could easily do another setting book that covered the other continents.
And just because Exandria and Ravenloft were covered recently doesn't mean Wizards won't cover them again. They've already shown a heroic capacity for not giving people what they want -- why would they stop now? |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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Posted - 16 Jun 2021 : 02:18:05
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Originally posted by HighOne
As keftiu pointed out, the Eberron book was anything but comprehensive. Wizards could easily do another setting book that covered the other continents.
And just because Exandria and Ravenloft were covered recently doesn't mean Wizards won't cover them again. They've already shown a heroic capacity for not giving people what they want -- why would they stop now?
And as I commented, a good chunk of Ravenloft wasn't covered -- so it is most definitely a possibility.
And since they've not said this new book would be a setting book, it still remains a possibility that it's some expansion other than a setting book -- like a book of drow. |
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Irennan
Great Reader
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Posted - 16 Jun 2021 : 02:49:29
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| With the 5e approach, I highly doubt they'd go for a book with a focus as narrow as 1 single race. At most, they're going to cover the new and revised versions of all the races that are deemed problematic (but I don't think they'll ever bother to rework orcs and others). I think they might go for a drow adventure and give a little info about the new drow cities, much like Storm King did with the North. |
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keftiu
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Posted - 16 Jun 2021 : 03:35:15
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Originally posted by Gyor
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Originally posted by keftiu
Worth noting that 5e Eberron only really showed us one city on one continent. A pulp adventure-y Xen’drik book, an intrigue campaign in Thaliost or Thronehold, maybe even a psionic revolutionaries story in Sarlona… there’s plenty more meat on those bones.
Eberron's timeline doesn't advance, unlike FRs, so you can use the 3.5e books, along with E: RftLW's mechanics. That isn't an choice for FR.
A number of those books were handled by people with an iffy grasp on the lore; having Keith go back over a lot of the material (as 5e had to do with one of the core faiths of the setting) would be a delight. There’s also areas old material never covered (everything aquatic, the homelands of the gnomes, halflings, and goblinoids, the “nation of monsters,” almost any city in the setting, the land of shifters and druids - I could go on), which the fanbase is slavering for.
Eberron is not “finished” by any stretch of the imagination. |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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Posted - 16 Jun 2021 : 04:16:42
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Originally posted by Irennan
With the 5e approach, I highly doubt they'd go for a book with a focus as narrow as 1 single race. At most, they're going to cover the new and revised versions of all the races that are deemed problematic (but I don't think they'll ever bother to rework orcs and others). I think they might go for a drow adventure and give a little info about the new drow cities, much like Storm King did with the North.
I suggest a book of drow as a possibility for two reasons:
1) We already know they're doing something with drow
2) Drow are something they just keep coming back to. We've had multiple books on drow and/or the areas they live in -- adventures, hardcovers, softcovers, and boxed sets, in 2E, 3.x, and 4E. A 5E book covering drow, Menzoberranzan, and/or the Underdark in general is inevitable.
Seriously, just off the top of my head:
The Drow of the Underdark 2E
Drizzt Do'Urden's Guide to the Underdark 2E
Menzoberranzan Boxed Set 2E
Drow of the Underdark 3E
Underdark 3E
Expedition to the Demonweb Pits 3E
City of the Spider Queen 3E
Menzoberranzan, City of Intrigue 4E
That's 8 times they've gone to that particular well, either for sourcebooks or adventures.
The question isn't IF we're going to see another drow book, the question is WHEN.
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keftiu
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Posted - 16 Jun 2021 : 04:23:04
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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Posted - 16 Jun 2021 : 04:58:14
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Originally posted by keftiu
Don’t forget the /incredible/ 4e Underdark book!
I knew I had to be forgetting something else from the 4E era.
That makes at least 9 trips to that particular well, with 2 or more sourcebooks per edition. |
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keftiu
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Posted - 16 Jun 2021 : 05:11:26
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| I’ve seen Torog suggested as a demon lord in order to port him out of the Points of Light world and into broader D&D; he makes a killer scary counterbalance to Lolth, if you want multiple options for a “big bad” of the Underdark. |
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Irennan
Great Reader
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Posted - 16 Jun 2021 : 13:46:02
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
I suggest a book of drow as a possibility for two reasons:
It wouldn't fit the 5e model at all, though. An Underdark book that also includes drow? I can see it. A book that puts together all the reworks for the various problematic races? Maybe. A book about only drow? Doesn't seem like 5e at all. And I mean, you'd have to go very in depth to fill a book with just drow lore, like Ed did in "The Drow of the Underdark", where he gave an overview of ALL the drow factions and even went to the point of doing things like detailing how their hydraulics works. Not going to happen in 5e. |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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Posted - 16 Jun 2021 : 15:47:21
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Originally posted by Irennan
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
I suggest a book of drow as a possibility for two reasons:
It wouldn't fit the 5e model at all, though. An Underdark book that also includes drow? I can see it. A book that puts together all the reworks for the various problematic races? Maybe. A book about only drow? Doesn't seem like 5e at all. And I mean, you'd have to go very in depth to fill a book with just drow lore, like Ed did in "The Drow of the Underdark", where he gave an overview of ALL the drow factions and even went to the point of doing things like detailing how their hydraulics works. Not going to happen in 5e.
Again, though, they're already working on something drow-related, with the avendrow and eurodrow and megadrow or whatever they're calling all these things.
And they've been revisiting prior stuff, with entirely new spins and utter disregard for prior information -- and that most definitely has been a 5E thing. They've done it for settings and for various critters, like some of the bizarre stuff they came up with for Volo's Guide to Monsters.
Plus, they don't have to go in-depth for lore, because they're going to be giving us statblocks/monster entries for all these new flavors of drow. We're going to have avendrow wizard and megadrow fighter and eurodrow barrista and a thousand other variations as monster entries. We're going to get new backgrounds, and new feats, and re-skinned spells and magical items, and slightly tweaked character classes...
We've had at least 9 drow or Underdark books across three editions, we know they're working with drow again, and we know they don't care about anything that was done before.
Something like this may not fit the current 5E mold -- but what is this mold? They keep showing everything they can into one setting for adventures, while putting out other settings that they never touch again.
If it's not The Book of MOAR DROW!, then it's going to be Underdark (But Really Drow!).
WotC will never pass up an opportunity to revisit this well. They've been doing it for 30 years. |
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Gyor
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 16 Jun 2021 : 17:33:11
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
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Originally posted by HighOne
As keftiu pointed out, the Eberron book was anything but comprehensive. Wizards could easily do another setting book that covered the other continents.
And just because Exandria and Ravenloft were covered recently doesn't mean Wizards won't cover them again. They've already shown a heroic capacity for not giving people what they want -- why would they stop now?
And as I commented, a good chunk of Ravenloft wasn't covered -- so it is most definitely a possibility.
And since they've not said this new book would be a setting book, it still remains a possibility that it's some expansion other than a setting book -- like a book of drow.
They book could have covered them had it been as large as the Eberron one, this tells me anything not covered or barely covered was by design, at least for now they have no intentions of covering. That maybe change in the fullness of time, but not for several years at least. |
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Gyor
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 16 Jun 2021 : 17:36:05
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
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Originally posted by Irennan
With the 5e approach, I highly doubt they'd go for a book with a focus as narrow as 1 single race. At most, they're going to cover the new and revised versions of all the races that are deemed problematic (but I don't think they'll ever bother to rework orcs and others). I think they might go for a drow adventure and give a little info about the new drow cities, much like Storm King did with the North.
I suggest a book of drow as a possibility for two reasons:
1) We already know they're doing something with drow
2) Drow are something they just keep coming back to. We've had multiple books on drow and/or the areas they live in -- adventures, hardcovers, softcovers, and boxed sets, in 2E, 3.x, and 4E. A 5E book covering drow, Menzoberranzan, and/or the Underdark in general is inevitable.
Seriously, just off the top of my head:
The Drow of the Underdark 2E
Drizzt Do'Urden's Guide to the Underdark 2E
Menzoberranzan Boxed Set 2E
Drow of the Underdark 3E
Underdark 3E
Expedition to the Demonweb Pits 3E
City of the Spider Queen 3E
Menzoberranzan, City of Intrigue 4E
That's 8 times they've gone to that particular well, either for sourcebooks or adventures.
The question isn't IF we're going to see another drow book, the question is WHEN.
Yes they are doing something with the Drow, we have the new art for the Drow and their new cities showing that, but it's for the new FR setting book of course. |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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Posted - 16 Jun 2021 : 18:25:45
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Originally posted by Gyor
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
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Originally posted by HighOne
As keftiu pointed out, the Eberron book was anything but comprehensive. Wizards could easily do another setting book that covered the other continents.
And just because Exandria and Ravenloft were covered recently doesn't mean Wizards won't cover them again. They've already shown a heroic capacity for not giving people what they want -- why would they stop now?
And as I commented, a good chunk of Ravenloft wasn't covered -- so it is most definitely a possibility.
And since they've not said this new book would be a setting book, it still remains a possibility that it's some expansion other than a setting book -- like a book of drow.
They book could have covered them had it been as large as the Eberron one, this tells me anything not covered or barely covered was by design, at least for now they have no intentions of covering. That maybe change in the fullness of time, but not for several years at least.
The design may have been the plans for a second book. |
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HighOne
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Posted - 16 Jun 2021 : 18:26:10
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| Whatever the upcoming setting books are, we have to wait until 2022 to get them. So even if you think a new FRCS is possible (and I do), it's hard to get excited about something that far into the future. I'm more interested in the October release and finding out what it is. |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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Posted - 16 Jun 2021 : 18:29:38
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Originally posted by Gyor
Yes they are doing something with the Drow, we have the new art for the Drow and their new cities showing that, but it's for the new FR setting book of course.
Except for the minor fact that -- as stated repeatedly over the last 9 pages -- there is nothing at all that indicates there is going to be another setting book for the Realms. A drow/Underdark book covers what they promised for revisiting a setting, without being the setting book that they haven't indicated they're doing.
Even if there was going to be a new FR setting book, they're obviously putting a large focus on drow, here -- which isn't something they'd do for a book that covers the whole setting. |
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Delnyn
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Posted - 16 Jun 2021 : 23:37:11
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
Even if there was going to be a new FR setting book, they're obviously putting a large focus on drow, here -- which isn't something they'd do for a book that covers the whole setting.
I thought the late 3.5ed years gave us all the drow (and Netherese shades) to last us all two plus decades. Hard pass. |
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keftiu
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 16 Jun 2021 : 23:50:48
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Originally posted by Delnyn
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
Even if there was going to be a new FR setting book, they're obviously putting a large focus on drow, here -- which isn't something they'd do for a book that covers the whole setting.
I thought the late 3.5ed years gave us all the drow (and Netherese shades) to last us all two plus decades. Hard pass.
I quite liked the Shadovar as one of the main baddies of 4e, alongside the Thayans. |
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Gyor
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 17 Jun 2021 : 00:03:47
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
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Originally posted by Gyor
Yes they are doing something with the Drow, we have the new art for the Drow and their new cities showing that, but it's for the new FR setting book of course.
Except for the minor fact that -- as stated repeatedly over the last 9 pages -- there is nothing at all that indicates there is going to be another setting book for the Realms. A drow/Underdark book covers what they promised for revisiting a setting, without being the setting book that they haven't indicated they're doing.
Even if there was going to be a new FR setting book, they're obviously putting a large focus on drow, here -- which isn't something they'd do for a book that covers the whole setting.
They already did a Drow focused book, Out of the Abyss.
Exploring the new lore for Aevendrow, Lorendrow, and Udadrow isn't going to take a whole chapter, never mind the whole book. And it's one FR change a variety likely. |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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Posted - 17 Jun 2021 : 02:18:55
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Originally posted by Gyor
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
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Originally posted by Gyor
Yes they are doing something with the Drow, we have the new art for the Drow and their new cities showing that, but it's for the new FR setting book of course.
Except for the minor fact that -- as stated repeatedly over the last 9 pages -- there is nothing at all that indicates there is going to be another setting book for the Realms. A drow/Underdark book covers what they promised for revisiting a setting, without being the setting book that they haven't indicated they're doing.
Even if there was going to be a new FR setting book, they're obviously putting a large focus on drow, here -- which isn't something they'd do for a book that covers the whole setting.
They already did a Drow focused book, Out of the Abyss.
Exploring the new lore for Aevendrow, Lorendrow, and Udadrow isn't going to take a whole chapter, never mind the whole book. And it's one FR change a variety likely.
If it was a setting book, the drow would get maybe two pages, at most. You don't need retcons and artwork like this for two pages.
And prior editions had multiple drow books -- again, at least nine across three editions.
Besides, Out of the Abyss was more about demons and such than drow. |
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sleyvas
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Posted - 17 Jun 2021 : 12:35:04
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Originally posted by Gyor
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
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Originally posted by Gyor
Yes they are doing something with the Drow, we have the new art for the Drow and their new cities showing that, but it's for the new FR setting book of course.
Except for the minor fact that -- as stated repeatedly over the last 9 pages -- there is nothing at all that indicates there is going to be another setting book for the Realms. A drow/Underdark book covers what they promised for revisiting a setting, without being the setting book that they haven't indicated they're doing.
Even if there was going to be a new FR setting book, they're obviously putting a large focus on drow, here -- which isn't something they'd do for a book that covers the whole setting.
They already did a Drow focused book, Out of the Abyss.
Exploring the new lore for Aevendrow, Lorendrow, and Udadrow isn't going to take a whole chapter, never mind the whole book. And it's one FR change a variety likely.
Where are these 3 new terms for various drow coming from? I have only started seeing them in the last couple months, and I'm not sure of the meaning of the differences. |
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TKU
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Posted - 17 Jun 2021 : 14:53:17
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Originally posted by sleyvas
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Originally posted by Gyor
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
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Originally posted by Gyor
Yes they are doing something with the Drow, we have the new art for the Drow and their new cities showing that, but it's for the new FR setting book of course.
Except for the minor fact that -- as stated repeatedly over the last 9 pages -- there is nothing at all that indicates there is going to be another setting book for the Realms. A drow/Underdark book covers what they promised for revisiting a setting, without being the setting book that they haven't indicated they're doing.
Even if there was going to be a new FR setting book, they're obviously putting a large focus on drow, here -- which isn't something they'd do for a book that covers the whole setting.
They already did a Drow focused book, Out of the Abyss.
Exploring the new lore for Aevendrow, Lorendrow, and Udadrow isn't going to take a whole chapter, never mind the whole book. And it's one FR change a variety likely.
Where are these 3 new terms for various drow coming from? I have only started seeing them in the last couple months, and I'm not sure of the meaning of the differences.
https://dnd.wizards.com/story/legend-of-drizzt
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https://dnd.dragonmag.com/2021/05/21/beyond-the-underdark-secrets-of-the-drow/content.html
It seems that the terms are what is going to be used to describe drow from the three 'city states' going forward: "aevendrow" are from Callidae, "lorendrow" are from Saekolath, and "udadrow" are from Menzoberranzan. |
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TheIriaeban
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sleyvas
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Posted - 25 Jun 2021 : 00:37:12
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Originally posted by TKU
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Originally posted by sleyvas
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Originally posted by Gyor
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
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Originally posted by Gyor
Yes they are doing something with the Drow, we have the new art for the Drow and their new cities showing that, but it's for the new FR setting book of course.
Except for the minor fact that -- as stated repeatedly over the last 9 pages -- there is nothing at all that indicates there is going to be another setting book for the Realms. A drow/Underdark book covers what they promised for revisiting a setting, without being the setting book that they haven't indicated they're doing.
Even if there was going to be a new FR setting book, they're obviously putting a large focus on drow, here -- which isn't something they'd do for a book that covers the whole setting.
They already did a Drow focused book, Out of the Abyss.
Exploring the new lore for Aevendrow, Lorendrow, and Udadrow isn't going to take a whole chapter, never mind the whole book. And it's one FR change a variety likely.
Where are these 3 new terms for various drow coming from? I have only started seeing them in the last couple months, and I'm not sure of the meaning of the differences.
https://dnd.wizards.com/story/legend-of-drizzt
and
https://dnd.dragonmag.com/2021/05/21/beyond-the-underdark-secrets-of-the-drow/content.html
It seems that the terms are what is going to be used to describe drow from the three 'city states' going forward: "aevendrow" are from Callidae, "lorendrow" are from Saekolath, and "udadrow" are from Menzoberranzan.
Hmmm, so just to save others the hunting, from legendofdrizzt.com... and I'll put my take at the end
Aevendrow
Even as some of their kin followed Lolth down to the Underdark, many drow elves rejected her, remaining true to their innate integrity. One band ventured north, vanishing from history behind curtains of snow, aurora, and illusion. They became the Aevendrow—or Starlight Elves—a highly secretive clan steeped in powerful magic.
The Aevendrow remain untainted by Lolth’s influence, and life in Callidae is radically different from that of oppressive Menzoberranzan. Yet, though many would rejoice to see it, almost no one—including the longest-lived elves—can quite remember its existence.
Lorendrow
Head far enough south and one enters the territory of the Lorendrow, or “Greenshadow Elves.” Far from the Spider Queen and her terrors, the Lorendrow draw their wisdom from their environment: the generosity of earth; the mystery of sky; and the complex harmony of forest.
Their verdant city is Saekolath—“Place of Shade”—and it wends between towering trees and chattering rivers. Even the most knowledgeable bard would be hard-pressed to sing its histories, and few northern adventurers have ever reached its borders.
So, Aevendrow are in the "far north" somewhere where its frozen, in some city that's called Callidae. Now, that doesn't mean directly north of Faerun. It could be the continent known as Aurune, and perhaps these drow worshipped "Aurilandur the Frost Sprite Queen". We have several things we can do with that. First is that the snow elves from dragon magazine lore worshipped Tarsellis, an outcast Seldarine who "got involved" with someone who may or may not have been Lolth, but who betrayed the Seldarine. Her name in the original article was noted as Megwandir. Over in Anchorome there are the Poscadari elves, who supposedly came from somewhere with ice and snow and don't speak the elven language of the elves of Evermeet. I'd hate to have them be the descendants of these aevendrow directly, but the idea that Tarsellis was involved with the aevendrow and led his people elsewhere DOES work for me (and there may be some aevendrow blood in their ancestry). In fact, if Aurilandur and Megwandir might be one and the same, one could come up with a good story in which Tarsellis and Aurilandur become involves, she betrays him, and her "son" Rellavar Danuvien, now known as King of the Frost Sprites, ascends to a higher rank and it puts a little kink in the relationship between Rellavar and Tarsellis (who are said to have once been close friends, but are somewhat estranged now). To note, both Rellavar and Tarsellis are more D&D canon now with Mordenkainen's Tome of Foes including them in something more than dragon mag articles. There's also hints of some elves in the High Ice of Anauroch, so there might be some of these drow there. In fact, I wonder if this future "starlight enclave" book by R.A. Salvatore might not be going there, since I don't see him leaving the continent.
The Lorendrow meanwhile are "far to the south in jungles".I'd personally make this in the continent south of Maztica or one of the smaller continent to its east. |
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Baltas
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Posted - 25 Jun 2021 : 16:53:52
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Originally posted by sleyvas
So, Aevendrow are in the "far north" somewhere where its frozen, in some city that's called Callidae. Now, that doesn't mean directly north of Faerun. It could be the continent known as Aurune, and perhaps these drow worshipped "Aurilandur the Frost Sprite Queen". We have several things we can do with that. First is that the snow elves from dragon magazine lore worshipped Tarsellis, an outcast Seldarine who "got involved" with someone who may or may not have been Lolth, but who betrayed the Seldarine. Her name in the original article was noted as Megwandir. Over in Anchorome there are the Poscadari elves, who supposedly came from somewhere with ice and snow and don't speak the elven language of the elves of Evermeet. I'd hate to have them be the descendants of these aevendrow directly, but the idea that Tarsellis was involved with the aevendrow and led his people elsewhere DOES work for me (and there may be some aevendrow blood in their ancestry). In fact, if Aurilandur and Megwandir might be one and the same, one could come up with a good story in which Tarsellis and Aurilandur become involves, she betrays him, and her "son" Rellavar Danuvien, now known as King of the Frost Sprites, ascends to a higher rank and it puts a little kink in the relationship between Rellavar and Tarsellis (who are said to have once been close friends, but are somewhat estranged now). To note, both Rellavar and Tarsellis are more D&D canon now with Mordenkainen's Tome of Foes including them in something more than dragon mag articles. There's also hints of some elves in the High Ice of Anauroch, so there might be some of these drow there. In fact, I wonder if this future "starlight enclave" book by R.A. Salvatore might not be going there, since I don't see him leaving the continent.
The Lorendrow meanwhile are "far to the south in jungles".I'd personally make this in the continent south of Maztica or one of the smaller continent to its east.
This would be interesting - though with the geography, it would suggest Aevendrow come in part at least from the survivors of Miyeritar - suggesting Eilistraee could be also worshipped by Aevendrow, or at least remembered as a mythical figure. Though seeing R.A. Salvatore's seeming dislike of Eilistraee, I think Aurilandur (especially that extreme North is her domain and Sossrim worship a more benevolent aspect of her), Tarsellis Meunniduin, and Rellavar Danuvien are more probable to be worshipped solelly. (Though it's possible there won't be a focus on religion to much, at least in the Starlight Enclave novel, as R.A. Salvatore has a kinda dim view of gods).
Poscadari elves could be descended from a mixed population of Wild Elves and Aevendrow, having a language closer to "Aevendrowic". Both groups are ultimatelly descendants of the original Green Elves curiously. |
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TheIriaeban
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 25 Jun 2021 : 16:56:59
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Originally posted by TheIriaeban
Instead of a book, it looks like they are going to release a free adventure. Here is where I found this information:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/free-dungeons-dragons-adventure-on-the-way-to-celebrate-magic-crossover/ar-AALoCLu?ocid=msedgntp
"Wizards made the announcement earlier this month during a private press event."
Anyone have a link to this? I'm at work and my ability to look at gaming stuff is quite limited.
I have dug around and couldn't find any Wizard's source for this. When they say that it was private, they mean that they hit everyone with a Forget spell afterwards and only the people making a save was able to walk out knowing about it. |
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CorellonsDevout
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 01 Jul 2021 : 01:42:36
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Originally posted by Baltas
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Originally posted by sleyvas
So, Aevendrow are in the "far north" somewhere where its frozen, in some city that's called Callidae. Now, that doesn't mean directly north of Faerun. It could be the continent known as Aurune, and perhaps these drow worshipped "Aurilandur the Frost Sprite Queen". We have several things we can do with that. First is that the snow elves from dragon magazine lore worshipped Tarsellis, an outcast Seldarine who "got involved" with someone who may or may not have been Lolth, but who betrayed the Seldarine. Her name in the original article was noted as Megwandir. Over in Anchorome there are the Poscadari elves, who supposedly came from somewhere with ice and snow and don't speak the elven language of the elves of Evermeet. I'd hate to have them be the descendants of these aevendrow directly, but the idea that Tarsellis was involved with the aevendrow and led his people elsewhere DOES work for me (and there may be some aevendrow blood in their ancestry). In fact, if Aurilandur and Megwandir might be one and the same, one could come up with a good story in which Tarsellis and Aurilandur become involves, she betrays him, and her "son" Rellavar Danuvien, now known as King of the Frost Sprites, ascends to a higher rank and it puts a little kink in the relationship between Rellavar and Tarsellis (who are said to have once been close friends, but are somewhat estranged now). To note, both Rellavar and Tarsellis are more D&D canon now with Mordenkainen's Tome of Foes including them in something more than dragon mag articles. There's also hints of some elves in the High Ice of Anauroch, so there might be some of these drow there. In fact, I wonder if this future "starlight enclave" book by R.A. Salvatore might not be going there, since I don't see him leaving the continent.
The Lorendrow meanwhile are "far to the south in jungles".I'd personally make this in the continent south of Maztica or one of the smaller continent to its east.
This would be interesting - though with the geography, it would suggest Aevendrow come in part at least from the survivors of Miyeritar - suggesting Eilistraee could be also worshipped by Aevendrow, or at least remembered as a mythical figure. Though seeing R.A. Salvatore's seeming dislike of Eilistraee, I think Aurilandur (especially that extreme North is her domain and Sossrim worship a more benevolent aspect of her), Tarsellis Meunniduin, and Rellavar Danuvien are more probable to be worshipped solelly. (Though it's possible there won't be a focus on religion to much, at least in the Starlight Enclave novel, as R.A. Salvatore has a kinda dim view of gods).
Poscadari elves could be descended from a mixed population of Wild Elves and Aevendrow, having a language closer to "Aevendrowic". Both groups are ultimatelly descendants of the original Green Elves curiously.
Yeah, I don't expect RAS to touch on Eilistraee. I saw a recent Tweet from him that basically amounted to "sure, some of them may worship Eilistraee, and other gods, but I'm not going to go in to that." Those weren't his exact words, but that's what it amounted to.
It does look like there was a recently revealed MtG card of a follower of Eilistraee, so...hopefully, even though RAS continues to turn up his nose at her, WotC won't. |
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keftiu
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 01 Jul 2021 : 05:01:20
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| Where do we think these “southern jungles” are for the lorendrow? |
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Zeromaru X
Great Reader
Colombia
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Posted - 01 Jul 2021 : 05:17:17
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Originally posted by keftiu
Where do we think these “southern jungles” are for the lorendrow?
Chult is the obvious place here, at least if we are talking about Faerûn. |
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Hint that Faerun Campaign Book is by MtG team
