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Senbar Flay
Learned Scribe
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 Posted - 06 May 2004 : 02:18:42
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I know he is the god of murder treachery deception lie and all that but what I want to know is how he became a god. it says in Lords of Darkness he rose to godhood during the timke of troubles but how did he do it. He inherited divine portofolios but what did he do to get them or were they just given to him.
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Sarta
Senior Scribe
USA
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Posted - 06 May 2004 : 02:58:20
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Would you like a 2 sentence summary or would you prefer the story?
The story is outlined in the Avatar Trilogy (of which there are 5, in keeping with that great sci-fi convention, "You can't keep a good trilogy down"). Look around for Shadowdale, Tantras, Waterdeep, Prince of Lies, and Crucible: The Trial of Cyric the Mad.
They have all been re-released and should be very easy to pick up or find at a library.
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DDH_101
Master of Realmslore
Canada
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Posted - 06 May 2004 : 03:26:42
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Well, here's quick summary:
Cyric was once a human thief who travelled with Midnight (who later became Goddess of Magic), Kelemvor (who later became the God of Death), and also Adon, cleric of Sune. Together, they went in search of the Tablets of Fate. In the end, Cyric killed Kelemvor to take the Tablets of Fate from the rest of the party in Waterdeep and returned them to Overlord Ao, who then gave him the powers of the fallen deitys; Bhaal, Bane, and Myrkul. |
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Roewyn
Learned Scribe
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Posted - 06 May 2004 : 22:15:51
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Easy way to get 3 portfolios.
I don't know if Bhaal was a greater power and cyric killed him but portfolios of Myrkul and Bane was more than he deserved.
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Cherrn
Learned Scribe
Denmark
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Posted - 06 May 2004 : 22:48:42
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Bhaal was an extremely weak god. He had just had a total fiasco happening on the Moonshaes when the ToT came around. I think Cyric's reaction was along the lines of "Oh crap!" when he found out he was to be the new Lord of Death, Tyranny, and Murder.
The good thing about the Avatar series is that when Cyric achieves godhood you sit with the feeling that an immature brat like him sure as hell didn't deserve all that he good. You really don't like him, and that's what makes a great villain. The really great villains you should hate, loathe, and so on IMO  |
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D-brane
Learned Scribe
United Kingdom
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Posted - 07 May 2004 : 06:13:21
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What are Cyric's portfolios now, in the post-Bane's return era?.
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Lina
Senior Scribe
Australia
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Posted - 07 May 2004 : 10:05:35
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Originally posted by D-brane
What are Cyric's portfolios now, in the post-Bane's return era?.
Try getting your hands on Prince of Lies and Cruicble: Trial of Cyric the Mad. They follow the events after the Avatar series. |
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D-brane
Learned Scribe
United Kingdom
140 Posts |
Posted - 07 May 2004 : 10:15:06
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I take it then, that Crucible is a sequel of sorts for Prince of Lies?.
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Roewyn
Learned Scribe
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Posted - 07 May 2004 : 12:11:19
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Cyric is healed now, he is no longer mad as he was before.
And less intersting.
I liked his ambition and cunning but as a god he was a disgrace. kinda am happy to see Bane again. Cyric was not capable of planing long term plots and he was too chotic to hold the Tyrany as his portfolio. |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
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Posted - 07 May 2004 : 14:57:27
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Originally posted by Roewyn
I liked his ambition and cunning but as a god he was a disgrace. kinda am happy to see Bane again. Cyric was not capable of planing long term plots and he was too chotic to hold the Tyrany as his portfolio.
Eh, I never really liked Bane, myself. I preferred Iyachtu Xvim.
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I take it then, that Crucible is a sequel of sorts for Prince of Lies?.
This is correct. |
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Roewyn
Learned Scribe
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Posted - 07 May 2004 : 18:06:55
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
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Originally posted by Roewyn
I liked his ambition and cunning but as a god he was a disgrace. kinda am happy to see Bane again. Cyric was not capable of planing long term plots and he was too chotic to hold the Tyrany as his portfolio.
Eh, I never really liked Bane, myself. I preferred Iyachtu Xvim.
I never thought Xvim was as a replacement of Bane.
But I thought Bane would return after a great evil epic campaign. But no luck. No evil is allowed to succeed I suppose unless there is a divine approval .
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Roewyn
Learned Scribe
114 Posts |
Posted - 08 May 2004 : 03:02:25
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Originally posted by The Sage
I think that what you really mean by "divine approval" is whether or not the Wizards who dwell on this Coast wish it to be so...
Yeah I suppose  .
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Thelonius
Senior Scribe
Spain
730 Posts |
Posted - 15 May 2004 : 10:40:08
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Hi, I'm Gion, Sarta, d'you know if this books you said are able in Hispania? I'm really interested in the story of Cyric in i've been looking for this books for a long time.
And sorry about the last reply, a mistake. |
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Sarta
Senior Scribe
USA
505 Posts |
Posted - 16 May 2004 : 00:46:31
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Gion, I'm actually not the best person to answer that. I live in the US and so am not as certain how easy it is to get these books in Spain. I do know that you can get all 5 of the books through Amazon.com and am sure that they will ship them to Spain. I also know that there are European distributors, but know even less about them. Perhaps Lord Rad, who lives in the UK will know more.
I tried to see if there were Spanish translations of the books, but didn't see any listed.
Good luck to you.
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Bookwyrm
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 16 May 2004 : 05:32:54
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Admittedly, he's only made two posts so far (three, counting the mistake above), but I don't believe he'll have much trouble reading any of these books in English.
By the way, Gion, you can fix such mistakes by either selecting "Edit" or "Delete," both available at the top of each of your posts. |
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Sarta
Senior Scribe
USA
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Posted - 16 May 2004 : 06:20:25
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Oh, I agree. I've spent several years studying Spanish myself. I know that I can scrape by on it if needed, but my grammar is horrid. I also have a hard time understanding a native speaker unless they slow down and don't use slang. I can read it fairly well, but if given a preference, I'd far rather read something in my native language.
I just assumed that Gion would feel the same way. If he could get his hands on English copies that would be good, but Spanish versions if available would be preferred.
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Sarelle
Senior Scribe
United Kingdom
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Posted - 16 May 2004 : 16:32:17
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I live in the UK, and I'm afraid I can't really help - amazon.co.uk (where I buy all my D&D books from) only stocks english versions and sells in UK 's not Euros.
I looked for an amazon Espana and couldn't find one either (might just have not looked hard enough, mind you.) |
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Thelonius
Senior Scribe
Spain
730 Posts |
Posted - 17 May 2004 : 18:32:07
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Hi, to everyone. I thank your help about the books i'm searching for. Bookwyrm is right when he says that i'll enjoy the same if y read them so in english taht spanish, but as Sarta says, i would prefer reading them in my home language. I suppose I'll have to keep on searching. Sarta i'll be pleased to help you with spanish whenever you want. One more question, i think that's this is no the correct forum, but, anybody of you can tell me how many Dragonlance's books have been written, i'm starting to swim in their world in i want to know the number of books i can find. I've read the Dragonlance Chronichles. (I think i haven't written it correctly.)
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