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Kuje
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Posted - 03 May 2004 :  20:23:34  Show Profile Send Kuje a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
Has any one seen this on the shelves yet? It's May...... Sure it's only the 3rd but I was curious. :)

For some of us, books are as important as almost anything else on earth. What a miracle it is that out of these small, flat, rigid squares of paper unfolds world after world, worlds that sing to you, comfort and quiet and excite you... Books are full of the things that you don't get in real life - wonderful, lyrical language, for instance, right off the bat. - Anne Lamott, Bird by Bird

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SiriusBlack
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Posted - 03 May 2004 :  21:37:41  Show Profile  Visit SiriusBlack's Homepage Send SiriusBlack a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by kuje31

Has any one seen this on the shelves yet? It's May...... Sure it's only the 3rd but I was curious. :)



Not on the shelves. However, two places online are now listing the books as available for purchase and shipment. Hopefully, I'll have it by the end of this week.
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Blueblade
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Posted - 04 May 2004 :  00:05:21  Show Profile  Visit Blueblade's Homepage Send Blueblade a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hi, guys. See the Questions for Ed thread for my "non-review" of the book. It's out, I got it at Baycon, at least 30 people did cuz I saw Ed sign that many
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Kuje
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Posted - 04 May 2004 :  00:37:20  Show Profile Send Kuje a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Grumble. :( My local book store said "Some time in May." Well that's a lot of help!

For some of us, books are as important as almost anything else on earth. What a miracle it is that out of these small, flat, rigid squares of paper unfolds world after world, worlds that sing to you, comfort and quiet and excite you... Books are full of the things that you don't get in real life - wonderful, lyrical language, for instance, right off the bat. - Anne Lamott, Bird by Bird

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Abizoath
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Posted - 04 May 2004 :  02:14:17  Show Profile  Visit Abizoath's Homepage Send Abizoath a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Not sure when it's out in stores, but at the Great Canadian Baycon they had some for sale. I got mine signed by Ed! ^_^, Already finished it, and it's one of the better books in the Elminster series.
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SiriusBlack
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Posted - 04 May 2004 :  03:06:06  Show Profile  Visit SiriusBlack's Homepage Send SiriusBlack a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by kuje31

Grumble. :( My local book store said "Some time in May." Well that's a lot of help!



I know the feeling. The Barnes and Noble in my area will get it sometime in June. I was there this weekend and what do they have on the New Releases section? Extinction. Yeah, that's a new release for sure. No wonder I buy my books online.
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SiriusBlack
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Posted - 04 May 2004 :  05:32:10  Show Profile  Visit SiriusBlack's Homepage Send SiriusBlack a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The tracking gods just informed me I should get my copy tomorrow. We shall see. I trust half of what I see and even less what I read online.
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SiriusBlack
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Posted - 04 May 2004 :  17:45:03  Show Profile  Visit SiriusBlack's Homepage Send SiriusBlack a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The tracking gods were smiling on me as I just got the book. I look forward to diving into the 378 pages tonight.
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Kuje
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Posted - 04 May 2004 :  21:14:39  Show Profile Send Kuje a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by SiriusBlack

The tracking gods were smiling on me as I just got the book. I look forward to diving into the 378 pages tonight.



BAH! No fair!!!!!!!!!!

For some of us, books are as important as almost anything else on earth. What a miracle it is that out of these small, flat, rigid squares of paper unfolds world after world, worlds that sing to you, comfort and quiet and excite you... Books are full of the things that you don't get in real life - wonderful, lyrical language, for instance, right off the bat. - Anne Lamott, Bird by Bird

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SiriusBlack
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Posted - 05 May 2004 :  04:44:10  Show Profile  Visit SiriusBlack's Homepage Send SiriusBlack a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by kuje31
BAH! No fair!!!!!!!!!!



I know..but honest, I didn't cheat. The gaming gods just love me...now if only the property tax gods did.....

Edited by - SiriusBlack on 05 May 2004 04:44:35
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Kuje
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Posted - 05 May 2004 :  04:56:42  Show Profile Send Kuje a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by SiriusBlack
I know..but honest, I didn't cheat. The gaming gods just love me...now if only the property tax gods did.....



Barnes has it listed as shipping on thier web site but the local Barnes says not out yet :( And Mediplay says not till the 12th!!!! BAH!

I take it no one else has it yet either? Or at least those who didn't get it at a Con.... :)

For some of us, books are as important as almost anything else on earth. What a miracle it is that out of these small, flat, rigid squares of paper unfolds world after world, worlds that sing to you, comfort and quiet and excite you... Books are full of the things that you don't get in real life - wonderful, lyrical language, for instance, right off the bat. - Anne Lamott, Bird by Bird

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Wood Elf Ranger
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Posted - 05 May 2004 :  06:08:27  Show Profile  Visit Wood Elf Ranger's Homepage Send Wood Elf Ranger a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The hardback edition is available at Amazon.com but I believe I will wait until the paperback version comes out

~Lee N.

"Breaktime yes?!.. Yes?.. Maybe?.. Noo, baaack to work.." -Grovel the Goblin from NWN: HotU
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George Krashos
Master of Realmslore

Australia
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Posted - 05 May 2004 :  13:38:48  Show Profile Send George Krashos a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Ed's novels are the only ones I ever buy in hardcover (because I can't wait to get at the contents). At AU$70 I always wince at the cash register but forget the pain after a few pages.

-- George Krashos

"Because only we, contrary to the barbarians, never count the enemy in battle." -- Aeschylus
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SiriusBlack
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Posted - 05 May 2004 :  19:07:54  Show Profile  Visit SiriusBlack's Homepage Send SiriusBlack a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Wood Elf Ranger

The hardback edition is available at Amazon.com but I believe I will wait until the paperback version comes out



Way to go Amazon. They are usually the last online store to make FR books available. I hope this starts a nice new trend for them.
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SiriusBlack
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Posted - 05 May 2004 :  19:14:51  Show Profile  Visit SiriusBlack's Homepage Send SiriusBlack a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by George Krashos

Ed's novels are the only ones I ever buy in hardcover (because I can't wait to get at the contents). At AU$70 I always wince at the cash register but forget the pain after a few pages.

-- George Krashos




Congrats on the salute and thanks from Ed to you found within this novel.
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Dargoth
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Posted - 06 May 2004 :  00:05:38  Show Profile  Visit Dargoth's Homepage Send Dargoth a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by George Krashos

Ed's novels are the only ones I ever buy in hardcover (because I can't wait to get at the contents). At AU$70 I always wince at the cash register but forget the pain after a few pages.

-- George Krashos




which is why the Gods created Amazon.com

My 3 pet hates are Lawyers, Politicans and WOTC Australia


“I am the King of Rome, and above grammar”

Emperor Sigismund

"Its good to be the King!"

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SiriusBlack
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Posted - 06 May 2004 :  04:03:33  Show Profile  Visit SiriusBlack's Homepage Send SiriusBlack a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Dargoth
My 3 pet hates are Lawyers, Politicans and WOTC Australia



Is that in order from greater to lesser?
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George Krashos
Master of Realmslore

Australia
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Posted - 06 May 2004 :  04:51:25  Show Profile Send George Krashos a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Dargoth

My 3 pet hates are Lawyers, Politicans and WOTC Australia




Which is kind of funny, as I resemble the first part of your hate list.

-- George Krashos

"Because only we, contrary to the barbarians, never count the enemy in battle." -- Aeschylus
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George Krashos
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Australia
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Posted - 06 May 2004 :  04:55:57  Show Profile Send George Krashos a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by SiriusBlack
Congrats on the salute and thanks from Ed to you found within this novel.



Ahhh, he's being his ever-generous self once again. I just HAVE to get to Canada sometime this decade: the wonders of the internet would surely pale in comparison to spending a night or two actually talking face to face to the man who gave us this wonderful sandbox to play in ...

-- George Krashos

"Because only we, contrary to the barbarians, never count the enemy in battle." -- Aeschylus
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SiriusBlack
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Posted - 06 May 2004 :  05:31:12  Show Profile  Visit SiriusBlack's Homepage Send SiriusBlack a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by George Krashos
Which is kind of funny, as I resemble the first part of your hate list.

-- George Krashos




Maybe he'll amend it to lawyers (who are not Candlekeep scribes)

The book so far is as much fun as I hoped it would be. I may have a question for the forum in a bit over something I read in an early chapter. I want to do some research first on a certain portion of Cormyr.

Edited by - SiriusBlack on 06 May 2004 05:32:55
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Kuje
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Posted - 06 May 2004 :  06:30:24  Show Profile Send Kuje a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by SiriusBlack
The book so far is as much fun as I hoped it would be. I may have a question for the forum in a bit over something I read in an early chapter. I want to do some research first on a certain portion of Cormyr.


Cries! It's not fair! I want my copy!!!! :(

For some of us, books are as important as almost anything else on earth. What a miracle it is that out of these small, flat, rigid squares of paper unfolds world after world, worlds that sing to you, comfort and quiet and excite you... Books are full of the things that you don't get in real life - wonderful, lyrical language, for instance, right off the bat. - Anne Lamott, Bird by Bird

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Dargoth
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Posted - 06 May 2004 :  07:23:57  Show Profile  Visit Dargoth's Homepage Send Dargoth a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by SiriusBlack

quote:
Originally posted by Dargoth
My 3 pet hates are Lawyers, Politicans and WOTC Australia



Is that in order from greater to lesser?



At present yes

however if WOTC OZ dont start passing on the Exchange rate benefit soon then there going to rocket up to number one

“I am the King of Rome, and above grammar”

Emperor Sigismund

"Its good to be the King!"

Mel Brooks
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Dargoth
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Posted - 06 May 2004 :  07:28:26  Show Profile  Visit Dargoth's Homepage Send Dargoth a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by George Krashos

quote:
Originally posted by Dargoth

My 3 pet hates are Lawyers, Politicans and WOTC Australia




Which is kind of funny, as I resemble the first part of your hate list.

-- George Krashos




You "Resemble" a lawyer? how does one "Resemble" a lawyer? Do you wear an Armani suit and carry a leather attache case?

“I am the King of Rome, and above grammar”

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George Krashos
Master of Realmslore

Australia
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Posted - 06 May 2004 :  14:15:50  Show Profile Send George Krashos a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Dargoth
You "Resemble" a lawyer? how does one "Resemble" a lawyer? Do you wear an Armani suit and carry a leather attache case?



Well, there's nothing about me that says I'm a lawyer (no Armani and I've never carried an attache case) and aside from what I do from 9 to 5 I don't talk about my work. People give you the funniest looks when you tell them you're a lawyer ...

-- George Krashos

"Because only we, contrary to the barbarians, never count the enemy in battle." -- Aeschylus
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Dargoth
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Posted - 06 May 2004 :  15:16:03  Show Profile  Visit Dargoth's Homepage Send Dargoth a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by George Krashos

quote:
Originally posted by Dargoth
You "Resemble" a lawyer? how does one "Resemble" a lawyer? Do you wear an Armani suit and carry a leather attache case?



Well, there's nothing about me that says I'm a lawyer (no Armani and I've never carried an attache case) and aside from what I do from 9 to 5 I don't talk about my work. People give you the funniest looks when you tell them you're a lawyer ...

-- George Krashos



*chuckle*

Ive heard that looks very similar to the one you see on an Axe wielding Dwarves face when he sees a party of Orcs


“I am the King of Rome, and above grammar”

Emperor Sigismund

"Its good to be the King!"

Mel Brooks
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SiriusBlack
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Posted - 06 May 2004 :  15:28:57  Show Profile  Visit SiriusBlack's Homepage Send SiriusBlack a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Here's a question based upon reading Elminster's Daughter. I don't feel it constitutes a spoiler as it only references a location, but just in case

Stop

Reading

if

you

don't

wish

to

learn

where

Elminster's Daughter

is set

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What happened to the past ruler of Marsember, Ildool? I know the FRCS listed Bledry Scoril as the ruler after "the untimely demise of the previous lord" (p. 113).

I can't recall what product, if any, detailed this untimely demise. Was it Death of the Dragon? So much was taking place in that novel, that I may have totally forgotten this event.

Any help here is appreciated.

SB
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George Krashos
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Posted - 07 May 2004 :  11:18:58  Show Profile Send George Krashos a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The change occurred in FRCS. Not sure about the reason ...

-- George Krashos

"Because only we, contrary to the barbarians, never count the enemy in battle." -- Aeschylus
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Garen Thal
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Posted - 07 May 2004 :  16:36:04  Show Profile  Visit Garen Thal's Homepage Send Garen Thal a Private Message  Reply with Quote
As regards the change in leadership in Marsember:

I've explained the change, and Ildool's "untimely" demise, as a direct result of the installation of the Thayan enclave in the city (mentioned, without justification, in Lords of Darkness). To shorten the backstory significantly, Ildool was never considered a bastion against corruption, and he used the confusion and chaos caused by the battles with Nalavara and her goblin horde to finally seal the deal with the Thayans. Receiving news of Azoun's death, he used the brief interregnum- with no one commanding him as lord of the city- to sign a treaty permitting the enclave.

Of course, as the crown was long rumored to be looking for an excuse to remove Ildool, either openly or through some "accident," so the continuation of the above story is that Alusair, being somewhat shorter of temper than her father, disposed of the former lord, leaving the expected confusion as to whether or not it was the crown- or one of Ildool's various enemies and conflicting partners in bribery- who "did the dirty deed."

I've not yet read Elminster's Daughter, so I can't possibly know whether this jibes well with the information therein, but these are the explanations I've come up with to both explain Ildool's removal (which was fairly simple, given the right excuse) and to justify a bunch of Thayvians living openly in Cormyr under the flag of their nation (significantly more difficult).
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SiriusBlack
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Posted - 07 May 2004 :  17:26:11  Show Profile  Visit SiriusBlack's Homepage Send SiriusBlack a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Garen Thal
Alusair, being somewhat shorter of temper than her father


I've not yet read Elminster's Daughter, so I can't possibly know whether this jibes well with the information therein, but these are the explanations I've come up with



With what I've read so far, nothing in the novel conflicts with the explanation you've created for your world. And you do get to see that Alusair temper in action once again....
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George Krashos
Master of Realmslore

Australia
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Posted - 08 May 2004 :  10:07:25  Show Profile Send George Krashos a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I think that's a great explanation Garen, and certainly one that holds sway in "my" Cormyr - as of now.

-- George Krashos

"Because only we, contrary to the barbarians, never count the enemy in battle." -- Aeschylus
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Garen Thal
Master of Realmslore

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Posted - 08 May 2004 :  11:04:29  Show Profile  Visit Garen Thal's Homepage Send Garen Thal a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I'm most glad to hear it, George.

And, having finished my reading of the novel in one of my fabled "between dinner and dawn" cover to cover readings, I can now reveal my delight in the storytelling, the happenings in Cormyr, and the surprises for even those of us who know the Forest Kingdom quite well-even those of us who aren't saluted and thanked as "lords of lore." ;)
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