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Chyron
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Posted - 02 May 2004 :  04:46:46  Show Profile  Visit Chyron's Homepage Send Chyron a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
I am attempting to find if the late King Azoun IV has an official entry given for 3rd edition. If not does anyone know in which product his latest details were given?

I have the following entries for him in my own library,

Original Gray Box DMs Sourcebook (1987) - listing him as a lvl 20 Cavalier (pg. 18)
FRC2 Curse of the Azure Bonds (1989) - listing him as a lvl 20 Cavalier (pg. 83)
Forgotten Realms Adventures (Hardcover 1990) – listing him as a lvl 20 Fighter (pg. 108)

I don’t have the product Into the Dragon’s Lair so I am unclear if he has any stats listed in that module (although it is after his death apparently).

If no such entry exists then based on previous entries what 3E class should he have? And should he have a PrC of Purple Dragon Knight and/or any other PrC?


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Kuje
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Posted - 02 May 2004 :  05:42:32  Show Profile Send Kuje a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Heroes Lorebook printed in 96.....

I have no idea what his 3e stats would be though.

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SiriusBlack
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Posted - 02 May 2004 :  06:05:17  Show Profile  Visit SiriusBlack's Homepage Send SiriusBlack a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Chyron
I don’t have the product Into the Dragon’s Lair so I am unclear if he has any stats listed in that module (although it is after his death apparently).



I have that product and Azoun is not detailed within the item. To my knowledge there have been no official 3e stats published for the character.
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Bakra
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Posted - 02 May 2004 :  06:35:22  Show Profile Send Bakra a Private Message  Reply with Quote
May the Gaming Gods forgive me, his following stats for 3e are:
Str:0
Dex:0
Int:0
Wis:0
Con: Definitely 0
Chr: -10
*starts to dodge dice*
On a serious note, he would be fighter level 10 and Purple Dragon Knight 10. The main adjustment would be to his strength...in 2e it was 18/76...in the new system it might be 19 unless you use old age rules, then it would be less than that but chances are it is a 19 for str.
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Bookwyrm
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Posted - 02 May 2004 :  06:37:13  Show Profile  Visit Bookwyrm's Homepage Send Bookwyrm a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I think I agree with you. Those are is actual stats.

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Sarta
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Posted - 02 May 2004 :  07:14:48  Show Profile Send Sarta a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by SiriusBlack
To my knowledge there have been no official 3e stats published for the character.



Probably a direct result of his having died during 2nd edition.

However, as Bakra pointed out, it would be fairly easy to reconstruct what his stats would be given 3edition. I'd assume a mix of fighter and purple knight.

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Chyron
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Posted - 02 May 2004 :  09:44:00  Show Profile  Visit Chyron's Homepage Send Chyron a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Thanks for the input everyone,

Yes, I do realize his stats are from 2E, but of course not everyone plays 3E rules in accordance with the current 3E FR timeline. My campaign is only up to 1369 so the monarch is still very much alive (for 2 years at least ).

Interesting to note his drop in strength over the years (age?) as he was listed in FRC2 with STR 18/00.

I was not too concerned with his stats however, as Sarta points out conversion of that is easy enough, mostly I was concerned with how his class should be portrayed with 3E rules. There are so many FR PrCs now it is sometimes hard to know where to begin.

Most NPCs remain consistent but there is a big differentiation with a few NPCs over the years (consider his daughter Alusair who was originally a 6th lvl Thief in FRC2)

If I could have my wish for any book to be developed what I am really longing for from WOTC is an Encyclopedia of the FR. Sort of like the old FR Atlas, but it would just list entries of Events, Locations, Items and Characters. However, instead of giving any real info about them it would instead reference (by order of print) each games accessory that particular subject has been printed in. It could optionally include Novels, but I would think with the vast number of old game materials that have been printed it would already be a Herculean task to put together. ….Well one can dream

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Bookwyrm
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Posted - 02 May 2004 :  09:57:26  Show Profile  Visit Bookwyrm's Homepage Send Bookwyrm a Private Message  Reply with Quote
A nice dream it is, too.

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Israfel666
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Posted - 02 May 2004 :  10:50:38  Show Profile  Visit Israfel666's Homepage Send Israfel666 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Assuming that he actually used to fight on horseback (I have not read the Cormyr novels, so it may be that he was given Cavalier levels in 1E just to say "he's a chivalrous fighter"), I think it's a good idea to give him levels in the Cavalier prestige class. Since PDK has only 5 level, that would turn out perfect: Fighter 5 / Purple Dragon Knight 5 / Cavalier 10.

Also, the wonderful Green Giant wrote 3E stats for Azoun Obarskyr (as well as for a TON of other Realms characters) in the following thread: http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=142994&perpage=50&pagenumber=6. He used an obscure, although appropriate, PrC (Noble Adventurer of Cormyr from the Dragon magazine), though, which may prevent some DMs (including me) from being able to actually use that writeup.

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Roewyn
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Posted - 02 May 2004 :  13:03:44  Show Profile  Visit Roewyn's Homepage Send Roewyn a Private Message  Reply with Quote
KING AZOUN OBARSKYR IV

Male human Ari 1/Ftr 15/Prp 5: CR 21; Medium-size humanoid (human); HD 1d8
+19d10 +60; hp 173; Init +3; Spd 20 ft in armor, 30 ft in bracers; AC 33
(touch 16, flat-footed 30) in armor, 24 (touch 17, flat-footed 20) in
bracers; Atk +28/+23/+18/+13 melee (1d8+10/17-20, +3 vorpal longsword),
+25/+20/+15/+10 (1d8+7/17-20, +4 defending longsword – having not applied
variable +4 magic bonus to AC, attack, or damage), +28/+23/+18/+13
(1d4+9/19-20, +4 silver dagger); SQ Purple Dragon Knight abilities; AL LG;
SV Fort +20, Ref +12, Will +14; Str 21 (+5), Dex 17 (+3), Con 17 (+3), Int
15 (+2), Wis 14 (+2), Cha 17 (+3); Height 5 ft. 11 in.

Skills: Bluff +7, Diplomacy +15, Disguise +5, Gather Information +7, Handle
Animal +11, Intimidate +8, Intuit Direction +7, Jump +6, Knowledge
(Geography – Cormyr) +7, Knowledge (History – Cormyr) +13, Knowledge
(Local – Cormyr) +11, Knowledge (Local – Dalelands) +4, Knowledge (Nobility
and Royalty – Cormyr) +13, Knowledge (Nobility and Royalty – Sembia) +4,
Listen +8, Perform (dance, mandolin, storytelling) +6, Ride +17, Search +4,
Sense Motive +7, Speak Language (Chondathan, Elven, Goblin, Orc), Spot +7,
Swim +6, Wilderness Lore +7. Note Azoun’s –5 armor check penalty is not
included above; nor is his Swim skill modified by the weight of his gear.

Feats: Alertness, Cleave, Education, Endurance, Great Cleave, Improved
Critical (longsword), Iron Will, Leadership (27, 26 with Vangerdahast, 29
with followers), Mounted Combat, Power Attack, Ride-By Attack, Saddleback,
Spirited Charge, Trample, Weapon Focus (longsword), Weapon Specialization
(longsword).

Special Qualities: Purple Dragon Knight Abilities: Rallying cry, heroic
shield, inspire courage (2/day), fear, oath of wrath, final stand.

Possessions: +3 vorpal longsword, +4 defending longsword, +4 silver dagger,
+5 mithral dwarven full plate (human-sized), +2 large metal shield (bears
Azoun’s standard, a purple dragon on a black field), +7 bracers of armor, +3
commander’s ring, Purple Dragon ring, ring of freedom of movement, royal
Cormyrian signet ring (allows Vangerdahast to communicate telepathically
with Azoun and know his location). When not expecting battle, Azoun wears
his bracers and carries his dagger. When expecting battle, he will don his
armor and carry his shield, one of his longswords (usually the vorpal blade)
and his dagger.
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