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Dargoth
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Posted - 01 May 2004 :  10:40:37  Show Profile  Visit Dargoth's Homepage Send Dargoth a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
Wizards have posted a interview with developers

http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/ps/20040501a

Also can someone do me a Favour

If you play the FR and buy Complete Divine can you post a review in this thread particularly focusing on the Usefulness of Complete divine for the FR

Thanks

Edited by - Alaundo on 02 May 2004 09:37:36

The Sage
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I take it then, you're not intending to purchase the Complete Divine tome?.

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Dargoth
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Posted - 01 May 2004 :  12:33:20  Show Profile  Visit Dargoth's Homepage Send Dargoth a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by The Sage

I take it then, you're not intending to purchase the Complete Divine tome?.




Not without a review

I think its going to cover alot of things that have bee either covered in F&P or arent useful to the FR (ie Greyhawk god stats) etc


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The Sage
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Posted - 01 May 2004 :  12:41:23  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Well, I play in both Greyhawk and the Forgotten Realms, so I'll most likely purchase it.

If I can get a limited review done in time Dargoth, I'll post it here .

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Dargoth
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Posted - 01 May 2004 :  12:47:13  Show Profile  Visit Dargoth's Homepage Send Dargoth a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by The Sage

Well, I play in both Greyhawk and the Forgotten Realms, so I'll most likely purchase it.

If I can get a limited review done in time Dargoth, I'll post it here .




Id say some North American board poster will get it before us Australians

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Sarta
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Posted - 01 May 2004 :  12:49:19  Show Profile Send Sarta a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I'm definitely picking it up and will be happy to post my thoughts on it. While I probably won't do a full blown review, I'll post my summary. I tend to think outside the box when it comes to prc's and find ways to make them work for FR if they aren't specifically designed for it and I like them. (e.g. hexblades for worshippers of Hoar and Beshaba and bear warriors as a blue bear Uthgardt prc from Complete Warrior).

I have a feeling that you are correct that many will be reprints with minor tweaks for play balance and 3.5. I may post a summary of which generic or non-realms prc's can still work well with tweaking for specific religions.

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The Sage
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Posted - 01 May 2004 :  14:39:37  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hexblades as worshippers of Hoar...that's an interesting idea Sarta. I'm going to look into that myself, for my FR games. Is there anything else you can tell me about what you did for the Hexblades?. Did you make any basic alterations to the class at all?.

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Sarta
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I just added knowledge religion to their list of class skills. It was a quick decision made to accomidate a player in my group who wanted to play one but was uncertain of how to incorporate the class into the Realms. Based on the classes ability to "curse" opponents with bad luck I decided that it made the most sense for the class to be associated with Hoar or Beshaba.

So, when he wrote his background he had the character be from Mourktar in Chessenta where we decided that a small school of Assuran worshippers train certain followers in the way of the hexblade and are at odds with the Banites of that area.

I don't feel that it is a perfect match up, I'd rather see a divine spell-casting knight class represent these two religions with the "hexing" ability that hexblades have. However, I didn't have the time to make a "greyguard" (neutral version of the paladin and blackguard).

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Dargoth
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Posted - 04 May 2004 :  02:16:06  Show Profile  Visit Dargoth's Homepage Send Dargoth a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Well theyve got a sneak peek up for Complete divine

PRCs

http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/ex/20040502a

What happans after you die

http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/ex/20040502a&page=2

Domains and spells

http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/ex/20040502a&page=3

I have to say its more and more likely that Im going to pass on Complete Divine

The PRC

The ENTROPOMANCER might seem like a likely candiate for House Karnok in Chessenta but theyve already got there own PrC in LOD (and HK are not a huge organisation)

The Divine World

WHAT HAPPENS AFTER YOU DIE, This is not alot of use, as the Afterlife is completely different in the FR, we have the False and Faithless, unbelievers are not sent to the there Alignment plane (as they no longer exist in the FR cosmology

Domains and Spells

A few of the Domains are useful

The Madness domain could probably go to Cyric (all though its debatable whether its applicable any more as hes no longer mad)

Mind Domain probably a good one for Illesine and maybe Oghma

Mysticism domain: judging by the spells this could go to any deity

Oracle domain: Savas

Pact domain: Tyr/ Torm and maybe Ilmater

Pestilience: Talona & Yurtus

Purification: Lathander

Summoner Domain: Mystra and Azuth

Weather Domain: none really, Talos has the Storm Domain and it a much better fit then Weather, The Winter domain found in Dungeon magazine is a better choice for Auril, which leaves us with Umberlee and there arent any Water/Ocean type spells in the Weather Domain.

All up its not looking good


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SiriusBlack
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Posted - 04 May 2004 :  03:13:52  Show Profile  Visit SiriusBlack's Homepage Send SiriusBlack a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Dargoth

Well theyve got a sneak peek up for Complete divine



Thanks for the links Dargoth.

quote:

I have to say its more and more likely that Im going to pass on Complete Divine



I'm not going to purchase it. Nothing in these previews is sparking a desire to spend any $$ towards this tome.

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Dargoth
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Posted - 05 May 2004 :  01:58:27  Show Profile  Visit Dargoth's Homepage Send Dargoth a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Me either, Faithes and Pantheons did a better job for FR fans than Complete Divine going to do

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Alexander Heppe
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Posted - 05 May 2004 :  07:19:52  Show Profile Send Alexander Heppe a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Yeah, as a DM I continually advice my players to stick to the FR-specific books (MoF, PGtF, RoF, LoD and FaP) instead of aiming at stuff from the "core" splatbooks. Just gives them (and me) a feeling to be more "at home" on Toril.

Complete Divine? Not for me. Not after Complete Warrior (which I allowed before I ever read it through) nearly imbalanced my game.
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Dargoth
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Posted - 05 May 2004 :  07:26:22  Show Profile  Visit Dargoth's Homepage Send Dargoth a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I allowed CW because you couldnt really go wrong with it, Fighters in Greyhawk or Krynn and Toril are all going got use the same feats and stuff Fighter stuff is pretty generic. Cleric stuff on the other hand is very setting specfic

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D-brane
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Posted - 07 May 2004 :  08:00:12  Show Profile  Visit D-brane's Homepage Send D-brane a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I wonder how many people actually realised that the ENTROPOMANCER PrC is a revised character kit for the Doomguard faction in the Planescape setting. I wish WotC would stop putting in these little tidbits from the setting and just publish it outright in 3.5e . . .

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